my president calls the sequester a meat cleaver approach. meat cleaver.should take a meat cleaver to the budgets. at the sequester cuts just that thing, they want to increase spending. this much. instead, they're just going to add this much. and they are still adding. they're spending more. don't believe me, look at this chart. the red line is what they planned to spend over the next ten years. the blue line is what they will spend after the sequester cuts. spending still increases, just a little less. and you could say i am being unfair here because it is reasonable for government to grow to account for inflation. that is a fair criticism. so let's adjusted for inflation. i will listen to% per year. spending still will increase, even with the sequestered. american politicians increase spending outlays by more than inflation every year. they're out of control. there politician who understands that, senator rand paul. congressman, you voted against the sequestered because he did not think it cut enough. >> yes. now everyone is walking. it is really just a

john: a meat cleaver?he presidents of the sequestered cuts are like using a meat cleaver on the budget. if only that were true because i would say believe away. because if we don't to my generation, in effect, steals from younger people. it's like we baby boomers do this. >> i need to take this. >> what are you doing? >> i'm old. i need this. i needhis. i'm going to take this. >> sake, give that back. john: taking banks from kids is nice for me, but the rest of you have to deal with the debt bomb. that is our show tonight. ♪ >> and now john stossel. john: i am sure thankful to all you young people out there so that i can take things like these from you. okay. i don't really need them. i don't want to steal from and people, but that is exactly what my government has arranged for me to do. i am 65 years old. i am now entitled to medicare, social security, and wealth transfer operation that takes from the young and gives to the old him even the affluent old. and it is unsustainable. nowhere near enough money

my president calls the sequester a meat cleaver approach. meat cleaver.should take a meat cleaver to the budgets. at the sequester cuts just that thing, they want to increase spending. this much. instead, they're just going to add this much. and they are still aing. they're spending more. don't believe me, look at this chart. the red line is what they planned to spend over the next ten years. the blue line is what they will spend after the sequester cuts. spending still increases, just a little less. and you could say i am being unfair here because it is reasonable for government to grow to account for inflation. that is a fair criticism. so let's adjusted for inflation. i will listen to% per year. spending still will increase, even with the sequestered. american politicians increase spending outlays by more tn inflation every year. they're out of control. there politician who understands that, senator rand paul. congressman, you voted against the sequestered because he did not think it cut enough. >> yes. now everyone is walking. it is really just a slow

. >> meat cleaver. >> meat cleaver. >> meat cleaver. >> meat cleaver. >> a meat ax. >> meat ax., scalpel is the good one! >> yeah, everyone's talking about sharp things, but actually, it's a really blunt instrument that they're using. this is not the kind of way that you want to make cuts in the economy, even if you decide to do it. >> when you put it together like that, though, we all look so foolish. >> we've got a bad metaphor problem. we've got to get more creative. but in all seriousness, scalpel, meat cleaver, this is an incredibly stupid idea that was designed to be so painful that it would force folks in washington to work together, and here we are, erin, you've been talking about the sequester on your show for over a year. and yet folks are acting surprise. no urgency. >> we were sitting here together 19 months ago when this happened. >> absolutely. >> a better idea might be to set up a mechanism if they don't make their own cuts in time in congress, than an independent comedian gets to make smart cuts. >> a superfail committee. >> erin? >> final words. >> forget the la

. >> meat cleaver. >> meat cleaver. >> meat cleaver. >> meat cleaver. >> the meat ax. >> meat cleaveri like saying it. >> i call it tweezers. >> but this economy is struggling so much, why -- why with this economy struggling so much would you hit it with anything? if it's a meat cleaver, an ax? >> even a q-tip. why would you do it? you can wait two or three years. >> it's good for the economy to get the government spending down. >> you opposed stimulus and now you're opposing -- we know the story you guys tell. >> we did have a stimulus and it didn't work. it didn't create jobs. >> you know what, you look at the counter factual and then tell me if that's really true. >> they said the unemployment rate would be 5.5%, today it's 8%. >> that doesn't mean that it wasn't worth stimulating the economy. if you don't think we should have done any stimulus, then maybe you should be on a different show. >> i love erin's show. by the way, erin, "princess bride" is my favorite movie. >> i love that movie. we can leave it on a point of agreement. i'm assuming, daniel likes "princess bride" too. >>

it's nonetheless important. >> congressman cleaver, when you look at what's already happening right now to real people, there will be furloughs for food inspectors if this deal isn't reached soon. already tuition assistance for veterans has been cut. veterans. and 125,000 people are now at risk of becoming homeless due to housing program cuts. and when you look at the severity of these things that are eminent and you hear that the republicans are jumping up and down having a hissy fit as the old folk used to say in my neighborhood over white house tours, i mean, listen to the people at fox. >> this has been a disaster, been unexplainable. >> how unbelievable is this? >> the idea that they didn't think that there would be pushback from the american public when school kid tours was canceled. obviously there are other things in the white house budget that could be cut. >> so they want to distract people like this is about tours. we're talking about affecting real people's livelihoods. >> well, this whole tour thing makes me sick at the stomach because we're talking about furloughed secret

. >> congress allow,000 meat cleaver approach to take place -- allows this meat cleaver approach to take place. >> now is not the time to make schools more expensive for our young people. >> education like head start and early start would be eliminated for nearly a thousand children. ♪ ♪ >> border patrol agents will see their hours reduced. >> f.b.i. agents will be furloughed. >> federal prosecutors will have to close cases. ♪ ♪ i'm so in love with you >> airport skluirt need to be cut back. >> many middle-class families will have their lives disrupted. >> this all dates back when we were growing up together in kenya. >> all of this will cause a ripple affect. >> you look sharp. >> you haven't seen me naked. >> we're going to keep it that way. >> the longer the cuts are in place the more damage to the economy. >> congress might allow a series of immediate, painful, arbitrary budget cuts to take place. no one in known in washington as the sequester. >> sean: few moments ago he signed an order to begin the sequester cuts. joining me to react his old boss's to avoid this mess, former chairm

. >> what the sequester does, it uses a meat cleaver approach to gut criminal investments. >> the cuts indiscriminate, some are frightening. less oversight and fewer audits of some nuclear facilities, hampered counterterrorism around the world, fewer food inspections, higher risk of wildfires. fewer hiv tests, a more dangerous border. but it's a horror story not everyone is buying tickets to see. >> i think that the president needs to stop trying to scare the american people, that absolutely, you can cut less than 3% without all these awful consequences. >> reporter: maybe so, in which case, the scariest thing about all of this is that washington is so inept. it's either scary or comical. like the movie "groundhog day." august 2011, a plan to avoid the debt limit pushed the sequester to march 1st. oh, and this cliff diving isn't done yet. president obama has yet to release a budget for the next fiscal year. that could come in mid-march. then march 27th, the u.s. faces the threat of a government shutdown. basically, the fed's run out of cash to operate. and congress, scheduled to be on

the cleavers are the minority in the united states right now.re are so many homes of divorced parents, single parents, and gay parents. you know. who are we to stand in judgment on these parents? the only difference, don, between a gay couple and a heterosexual couple is that a gay couple cannot have accidental procreation. that means when you are gay and want a baby, you really want to have that baby. >> figure out how to have that baby. >> lot of work and a lot of expense. >> we are running out of time. >> type of people that stand on judge and jury. >> lz, during the break, we were asking are you available next week during easter to come on the show. no, i'm going -- it is my son's spring break. you are a gay dad. we will be in london. you are taking your family out of the country to enjoy easter. i would love to have a dad that took me to london for spring break. gay or straight. >> i just -- i just wanted to, you know, add support on a point. you know, i was in a point of my career i could live anywhere in the country. i was a senior writer

obamaments to cut -- obama wants to cut it with a meat cleaver a little.erri: doug, it's not planned reform or sought out reform. it's a mistake, and we're all going to live with it, and it's going to be fine, but ated -- at the end of the day, it's not that much money.@ it's about 2%. what do you think of it? >> it's much to do about nothing. it's really 2%. you hear talks of a recession. i've done the math. if this causes a recession, the stimulus bill should have traded 6 trillion in wealth. we have not seen that. i'm pretty sure we're safe from recession, and the reality is, we can absorb these cuts from the federal government. they are going to be some rough edge, but by and large, we're still going to have more spending than w had last year, more money than the president, himself, budgeted. gerri: to that point, take a look another the chart, cbo numbersment the spending continues to rise with the cuts. keep in mind, this is not a cut in spending. when people talk about the sequester being spending cuts, it's not spending cuts, but reduction in the g

this is the one person that's going to be the lead person with we higher as a group and we're not cleaver as to what commissioner chihuahuas saying in terms of what the purpose of the role of the personnel committee would be playing in the selection process. i'd like to make a incision. this is such an important position that this full body of the commission should be involved in the interview of the top two or three whatever number of people we think are necessary to interview. 11 people might sound unmanagementable but i don't think it is. we want the questions to tell you and we want to hear all the answers. let the selection firm do their job and screen them out. i personally feel better if i actually sat in the interview process and you would do this by then if this is an agreement then you have a closed session thoughtful body. i believe you don't have to change anything then. and whosoever applying for this job can't handle 11 people shouldn't be applying for the job. in my last position we had 7 people and that was fine. so that's my suggestion let's go droiblg the meeting of the

motorway that was planned to go through a valley in the area to live in the valley of asp a clutch of cleaver very important to the area a very beautiful area and. the group asked if we knew more about the role of the european union and and specifically the european commission in this motorway projects. so we started looking into this we discovered that this motorway project was part of something called the trans european networks. the transfer p and that works was the biggest infrastructure projects in history with the estimated budget of four hundred billion. euros. friends from sweden came up with another detail there was an influential lobby group behind this and they asked us you know about a year to the european round table of industrialists. i know. i started digging for more information about the iraqi. i went to our archive and i didn't find anything. i started diving into the alien world of the business press newspapers like the financial times the economist german business newspapers and we found a reference to a new report that had been published shortly before called reshaping eu

motorway that was planned to go through a valley in the area they lived in the valley of asp a clutch of cleaver very important to the area a very beautiful area and. the group asked if we knew more about the role of the european union and and specifically the european commission in this motorway projects. so we started looking into this we discovered that this motorway project was part of something called the trans european networks. the transfer p and that works was the biggest infrastructure projects in history with the estimated budget of four hundred billion. euro. funds from sweden came up with another of the town there was an influential lobby group behind. yes and they asked us you know about the iraqi the european round table of industrialists. i know. i started digging for more information about the iraqi. i went to our archive and i didn't find anything. i started diving into the alien world of the business press newspapers like the financial times the economist german business newspapers and we found a reference to a new report that had been published shortly before called reshaping

instead of cutting of government spending we do not need, what the sequestered does is use a meat cleaver approach. >> saying the sky is falling in an effort to scare the american people into doing what he once, which is to raise taxes. >> days of doom impending, from the latin mass for the dead. we will be talking about the pope in a minute. actually, this is a big game of chicken. this cover looks like the poster for a grade b horror film. how horrible will it be? >> it already is. when i woke up on friday morning, there were frogs falling from the sky and a swarm of locusts coming from the west. the pestilence lay heavy on the land. we have sequestered against the government, and the wrath is great. >> which side has taken a bigger hit? >> the republicans have taken a big hit. allen ginsberg in maine said it is like watching a bad marriage come to an end, the recriminations, the blame, the bickering back and forth. even though the democrats are better off politically than the republicans, the process, politics and the public sector take an enormous hit. >> if it is the end of the marri

you are the winner of this court is an authentic and bloodied meat cleaver. >> no way i can leave the building with that. the moment i walked out i've arrested by security. [laughter] john: it is silly but it makes a point* the next time politicians say recant that remember there's so much garbage sometimes you cannot tell what is fake. that's our show. thank you for watching. i am john stossel. good night. after the show show and sunday. after the show show >> tucker: we will see you tomorrow. >> brenda: sequestration is, but if you think that means the tax hike threat is over, think again. that's the point. >> brenda: sure, but it speaks volumes. revenues mean taxes and we're already seeing how that payroll tax hike is kicking your assets. consumers cutting back on major purchases and hikes cut into paychecks. are more hikes the last thing the economy needs right now. hi, everyone, i'm brenda buttner, this is bulls and bears. let's get right to it. the bulls and bears this week, gary b smith, tobin smith, jonas max ferris and welcome to everybody. scott, they're still pushing more t

as you said, everybody concludedly that this was such a meat cleaver way to cut the budget that it would never be allowed to happen. and what happened? not only did it happen, but congress left town in the days beforehand. there's been no sense of crisis here. and i think actually the absence of a sense of crisis is in some way the news of what's going on, that you saw president obama make, i think a fairly serious misical clalings. he knhals knliepgz believe wooddwhawtsd in defense wowstlesd not be allowed to happen. but they won out over the traditional side that would defend the defense department. >> schieffer: what happens next john? >> i think what happens next-- we've been so pessimistic and it seems every minute we get another reason to be pessimistic about what's happening in washington, let's try to find the optimistic case. we had this bad thing happen. the republicans can say we didn't bend on the question of revenues. they have buckled on two previous fights on the fiscal cliff and the debt limit. they can say we stuck. there's also consensus that they need to go big again a

he wrote with a meat cleaver, is what it was. he wrote with a hatchet.he classic cain situation, always the triangle. the guy falling in love with the other guy's wife and killing the woman's husband and then coming to no good end. (honk) what are you doing that for? why are you honking the horn? (narrator) life's a dangerous game. especially with a new breed of woman working all angles. making her own rules. film noir had its own rules, censorship. the hayes production code, it was hollywood's law. moral and ethical standards from a church social; the line you couldn't cross. i'm going to surprise you, it had a very good effect, because it made us think. in other words, if we wanted to get something across that was censorable, we couldn't do it openly, we had to do it deviously. we had to be clever. and it usually turned out to be much better than if we had done it straight. it allows one's imagination to take over, where the material is not completely exemplified. haven't you tried to buy my loyalty with money? what else is there i can buy you with? (d

this is kathleen cleaver in '68. but one of the interesting things, you know, there's been claims that early in the party there weren't armed women. that's not true. women were armed in the party from the start. if you go back and look in the black panther or newspaper in that first image of huey newton on the wicker throne, there are images from that first photo session of armed women panthers posing with guns as well, and there were women in the delegation from sacramento. so, you know, women played a variety of roles and were central in the party throughout its history. what happened was, right, the party had all kinds of problems, you know, in terms of gender dynamics because the society does, right? and in many ways struggled with those issues very try lently -- stridently. and so if you look in the paper, there's all kinds of debate about gender dynamics with lots of voices from rank and file panthers, mostly women, also some men really debating gender dynamics from early on in the history. if you look at the 1

gwen: a meat cleaver falls on the federal budget tonight but will there be blood? and the supreme court tackles the voting rights act. tonight on "washington week." >> this is not going to be a apocalypse. it's just going to hurt. gwen: time ran out today as big budget cuts kicked in and there may be more pain to come. >> i'm hopeful we won't have to deal with the threat of a government shutdown while we're dealing with the sequester at the same time. gwen: lawmakers are calling the crisis dumb, manufactured, aploy. but now the across-the-board budget cuts are law. we examine the impact. at the supreme court, challenge to an historic law. how far should the federal government go to enforce voting rights? >> i think it is very likely it's debatable to a phenomenon that is caused perpetuation to racial entitlement. >> do you think racial discrimination in voting has ended? gwen: covering a big week in washington, joan biskupic of reuters, gloria borger of cnn, and david wessel with "the wall street journal." >> award-winning reporting and analysis, covering history a

they are going ahead with a big meat cleaver. >> was at a butter knife? they don't think the cuts will be that complicated. what do you think? >> the market realizes something. we need to walk before we run. that means that we need spending cut plans in order. future spending, not necessarily cuts, but something that they just kind of worked in them as we get closer come the market gets stronger. >> i totally agree with you. $85 billion is not a big number in itself. sequesters something designed to be a doomsday machine. something designed to be so bad that if it goes off, everybody is in huge trouble. the fact that we've got to the situation, although it is only $85 billion worth, its ultimate we are not part of the people in washington but religious works right now. obama, for example, i just heard a quote. i hope that the republicans will come up with a revenue remedy. what about incentivizing infrastructure? median incomes under this president, real purchasing power. median incomes have declined 10%. we should be talking about growth. >> what happene

. >> congress allows the meat cleaver approach to take place it will jeopardize our military and education and energy and medical research. >> this is not going to be a apocalypse as people would say, it is just dumb and if is going to hurlt. it is it going to hurt individual people and the economy overall. >> what comes next? congress can cut it off any time. is there an incentive for either side to budget? i am uma, live from the americanews headquarters starts right now. we begin with the sequestration showdown. the president signed sequester in law and laying the blame at the feet of the republicans in congress. fox news correspondant mark emmanuel has more. >> hi, uma, after the robbery republicans said they would not increase tax revenue. president obama signed an order putting it in affect. today the president blasted the gompt >> it is it happening because republicans in congress chose this outcome over closing a wasteful tax loop hole. they decide to protect? interest tax breaks for the well off and well connected is more important than military and middle class. >> speaker boehne

they want things to be cut, and money saved, but they don't want a meat cleaver, so this is a politicaltially because of obama's wing -- weak negotiating. >> michael: that's true. he wanted to compromise. he couldn't get other people to compromise with him. so that's a really interesting way of looking at this whole issue of sequester. i want to switch to a subject we cover here civil rights. marco macmillan was the first openly gay candidate to ever run for office in mississippi, but police are saying his killing was wasn't a hate crime. >> they just caught the man responsible. he was murdered. he was burned. he was dragged. this is a barbaric crime. hate crime is not sandbagging. it's a way of saying when a crime is committed for symbolic purposes, that is something else we have to stand up against. it's one thing to say i hate jewish people, but when you attack a synagogue you are saying i am attacking jews in general. and this is an attack against all gay people. and that is something that this country shouldn't stand for. >> michael: the hate crime legislation and the voting rights

. >> he is a thoroughly dishonest individual who has been coning and cleaver, and a devious individualt just dictators he was drawn to, he defended a british doctor that killed hundreds of his own patients. >> the doctor had professed innocence from day one and never accepted his guilt, not just a question of psychologically, he never accepted that he murdered anybody. >> and this woman was conned when he told her she could get a better divorce settlement. >> he knew that i was drowning and he pushed me right under, and he said why don't you commit suicide, and leave a note saying my life has been a comedy of errors, and he said that four times. >> it's not just his victims left embarrassed, it's the entire legal system as well. >>> a historic collection of letters is hit to set the auction block in may, and it includes some of marilyn monroe's letters just before her suicide spp s suicide. she wrote this. i think everything is pushing against my concentration, everything one does and lives is impossible almost. i get before a camera, and i am trying to learn everything it leaves me, a

. >> what a sequester does it uses a meat cleaver approach to gut things like education and national >> but he again resists talk of an immediate catastrophe. >> the impact of the policy won't be felt overnight but it will be real. >> it is tuesday congressman there are a few days left to avoid the sequester. do you see anything coming down the pike in the next few days that will avoid the sequester being triggered? >> i think the sequester will be triggered yes indeed. >> congressman paul brown. >> there are a lot of republicans who say this will be bad for the u.s. military. for that reason they were opposed to the sequestration. the party of ronald reagan would never let this happen. john mccain says these cuts are unconscionable. >> we have to cut spending. whatever it takes to stop that process then we can come back and fix it. >> you want to fix it going out but are you comfortable this week knowing that that sequestration will occur? >> we have to let it occur, yes. i am comfortable with that. >> that day with the sequester still two-days away, homeland security officials anno

you can't just cut the budget with a meat cleaver without hurting the american people. and lastly, the c.b.c. balanced approach stands up for important programs like social security, medicare, and medicaid that have nothing to do with the economic mess that we find ourselveses in right now. now we don't have a short-term deficit crisis in america. that's what the independent objective economists have concluded. the speaker of the house of representatives has acknowledged we don't have a short-term deficit crisis. the chairman of the budget committee just yesterday acknowledged that we don't have a short-term deficit crisis. we've gained six million jobs over the last four-plus years but we still have a long way to go. we've got a jobs crisis. now corporate profits are way up. the stock market is way up. the productivity of the american worker is way up. but the reality is consumer demand remains stragnant. that's why we have to investment in american economy, invest in transportation and infrastructure, research and development, invest in technology and innovation, educ

early on, i learned even in high school, i saved even as i bused tables at the old block and cleaver, which we called the block and cleavage because i was hilariously stupid back then. then ultimately graduating into selling ice cream. hey, ice cream, vanilla and chocolate. quickly, i learned the value of marketing power. can you imagine how many money could be made if you had the only franchise, the whole upper deck? even for a team as horrible as the phillies back then? i made a fortune, except the one time they gave me strawberry ice cream, talk about having to run from a customer after you sold that stuff. when lefty was on the mound, he pitched so quickly and got players out so fast that i would get stuck with unsold ice cream which i had to buy from the company before selling it and i would take a real beating. talk about learning how business worked. the shelf play on those nights were about as lightning as lightning could be. at the ballpark, people called me to get my attention to buy ice cream and frankly, i loved it. i never forgot the monitors. hey, bud. i mean, partner. a

you are the winner of this court is an authentic and bloodied meat cleaver. >> no way i can leave the building with that. the moment i walked out i've arrested by security. [laughter] john: it is silly but it makes a point* the next time politicians say recant that remember there's so much garbage sometimes you cannot tell what is fake. that's our show. thank you for watching. i am john stossel. good night. president obama promised it wouldn't happen, but now it is here. sequestration has arrived, the senate today voted down two separate proposals. it was at least a day of bipartisan fertility as they were voted down. the two bills were the final chance for congress to replace the arbitrary sequester spending cutshat go into effect tomorrow. incredibly the g.o.p. proposal would have conveyed congressional discretionary power to the president to determine how $44 billion in cuts would be applied specifically to the budget. presidt obama, however, not only wanted none of that flexibility and apparently none of that responsibility. he even threatened to veto. >> some people have said wel

. >> as i know it a lot of firms says that sequester, the meat cleaver cuts that nobody initially liked, and does not like now, are not going to play, they are looking at end of month where they think there might be changes made. hopefully they will be more intelligence, you just don't go in cut $85 billion and think it is a good thing. neil: do you we think have to to fear about cutting our way to something bad. >> absolutely. neil: really? >> i do, look at europe, why is this we would push when -- >> you wish to be europe cutting like they are, that is the last thing we have to fear, i think at rate we're going, you could be right, but todd, i don't see a immediate concern for worrying we're cutting too much. >> right, nile, no, the reason where we're doing well, because free market capitalism, and a self-healing system. when people misallocate capital they will lose their capital, that is where you get recessions, coming out of recession, you have capitalist free market, people try to improve their lives, and the lives much their family that is what drives this country forward, not s

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. >> what the sequester does, it uses a meat cleaver approach to gut critical investments in things likeational security. >> john: but he again resists talk of an immediate catastrop catastrophe. >> the impact of this policy will not be felt overnight, but it will be real. >> john: it's tuesday, congressman, there are just a few days left to avoid the sequester. do you see anything coming down the pike in the next few days that will avoid the sequester being triggered? >> i think the sequester will be triggered, yes, indeed. >> john: georgia republican congressman paul brown. there are a lot of republicans, yourself included, who say this is really bad for the u.s. military and for na reason they were opposed to the sequestration. senator lindsey graham says the party of ronald reagan would never let this happen and john mccain says the cuts are unconscionable. >> we've got to stop spending and whatever it takes to start that process and we can come back and fix it. >> john: you want to fix it going on. >> that's right. >> john: are you comfortable this week knowing that this sequestrati

looks like it's 2%, since so much is exempt, it is a lot more than 2% and because it's done in this cleaver-like, in fact, this will look pretty bad. >> all depends on what your priorities are. if it won't matter, clearly won't matter. if will this send us into a recession or fiscal cliff, it's not as bad as that. i think a big part of the problem as you point out is the pakeup of the cuts. not just the size. as a percentage of gtp it's not horrible. but the problem is it's so arbitrary, you listen to economists, so many of them use words like dumb and stupid, not exactly technical words to describe this. it's going to be hard for agencies to react to it. >> roger, you describe this, this is like being attacked and by -- by al qaeda. >> invading iraq when the attack came from afghan. >> explain why. >> the way to think about all the stuff we should be cutting in the budget is sacro sanks under the sequester and the stuff we shouldn't be cutting are the stuff we are cutting. >> the two big problems to the united states, are the growth in entitlement spending which isn't addressed by the sequester