there is a fatalism that has settled over the confederate army not only cleburne's fall, -- cleburne's thoughts. they know their cause is lost. many of them are willing to go down fighting. it doesn't stop from some jokes. one of the hardest hitting units in its army is general caught roles missouri brigade, kind of like marilyn stewart's troops, and the missourians were seen as orphans sense missouri was seen as a border state. they had a large number of st. louis irish and the soldiers are trying to break the heavy tension, one of the soldiers pipes up. england expects everyman to do his duty today. irish man says it's dam final duty that england will get out of this irish crowd. and the laugh was raised long hearty, in the face of death. prospects don't look good. as the meeting breaks up, general daniel who commands the arkansas brigade says well general, there are few of us boys going to get back to arkansas, and cleburne looks at him and says, if we are to god, -- if we are to die, let us die like men. and they ride down and start deploying at 4:00 the attack begins. and they ste

i became familiar with general patrick cleburne. my first really big civil war biography was on patrick cleburne. his story is set in franklin. i have been interested in it ever since -- one of the top experiences of my life is when i went to franklin for the 150th on the actual date, november 30, 2014, and i was there and i found out that there was a commemorative march. hold on a minute. this picture is at the end. those of you who know ed, it was truly an amazing experience. i have seen him many times. following him literally, watching him outpace men half his age, so much younger than him, it was a truly amazing experience. one of the things i have always been real keen on was the soldiers, the common soldier. i think franklin plays that out. chickamauga is said to be a soldier's battle. the soldiers suffer at franklin a great deal. this painting illustrates the army of tennessee as they would have appeared in the fall of 1864 when this campaign kicks off. another thing, we are talking about a battle toward the end of the war. w

he runs right into skirmishes of cleburne's advancing line. call upon by some tennesseans, i think, to surrender. he tips his hat, turns, tries to run away. bang, shot through the back. bullet exits his chest. falls mortally wounded. is dead within minutes. the federals after the battle during the occupation of the city marked the site. veterans of the 17th corps were there. and then circa 18 -- late 1870s, u.s. army officers raised this monument at that very site and you'll see it today. monument and mcpherson aves. cleburne's attack, unlike bates and walker's which quickly withered enjoyed some initial success taking up some yankee trenches capturing prisons and a couple of batteries, but they run into stiffening resistance as they get close to the bald hill. meanwhile, general hood has ridden out from the city and an area that is today oakland cemetery photographed by dan davis, a great photo, dan, hood in the second floor of a house then watch the fate of cleburne's attack and mainey's attack and then he calls in some of frank cheatham's i

i used my $50 to buy two books on patrick cleburne. and it's through that story cleburne's story ends at franklin. and so i've kind of been interested in it ever since. and indeed, during the 150th anniversary cycle, i went to as many 150th programs as i could. especially enjoying the time around here at fredericksburg. but one of the top experiences of my life was when i went to franklin for the 150th on the actual date, november 30th of 2014. i was there, and i found out that ed bars was in town and was going to be part of the commemorative march they do every year marching two miles over the ground that hood's army attacked at franklin. and having my living history stuff in the trunk of my car i'm like, hold on a minute. jumping in my car, hopped in it and this picture is at the end. those of you who know ed and have been with ed, it was truly amazing experience. i've heard ed talk and seen ed many times. but following him, literally, him about five paces in front of me, watching him outpace men who not half his age but, you know, s

northward before cleburne and brown in order to attack concurrently with them. that's basically what will happen. go back and have meetings with their commanders -- ask lane what will happen and explain what will happen. he said give orders sheer men -- in your front then press them and shoot them in the back while running to the mainline and fix your bayonets charge and breach the enemy's line at all hazards. claver looks at it and says general i will take those works or fall in the attempt. he is fatalistic in this campaign. at this point it is starting to really happen, sees the war .ffort falling apart he stated in an earlier speech that said this cause that is so dear to my her false -- may fall. that afternoon they start getting ready for the attack, centers, the union writing back to family noted, brother john is a few steps away , far to the south i hear a band. looking around i see willie crying and told he just received word of the dying of his only daughter by smallpox. i hear captain are saying to lieutenant, you think the war will be with us today?

cadets were assigned without rank to the 84th infantry division, training for overseas service at cap cleburneana. in the 84th division, mr. howerton served with the three 35th infantry as a rifleman, messenger, radio operator and communications sergeant. commencing in the siegfried line in germany in 1944, he served in the battle of the bulge and across germany to the west bank. after the hostilities ended, sergeant howerton was at the army of occupation in germany, a student at the sharp and ham university in england, and came home with the division in 1946. after the war, mr. howerton attended university of gender -- university of delaware with an mp in education with a long career as a federal civil servant with the u.s. civil service commission. he is also an author of 3 world war ii era books. today he is joined by his wife of 58 years, joan howerton. ladies and gentlemen, mr. allan howerton. [applause] mr. howerton: the second rule of management -- anything that can go wrong, will. [laughter] how is that prince of? the world war ii -- friends of the world war ii memorial, fellow veteran

general cleburne held that hill for a day. let's call it cleburne's hill. there were three battles of atlanta, not just one. i'm surprised russ bonds who wrote this fine book "war like the thunderbolt" called it the battle and burning of atlanta. there were three battles of atlanta. battle of peach tree creek and west of the city, ezra church. moreover, why should we commemorate it? it's been on a civil war bubble gum card. i was in the seventh grade when these things started coming out and look at this. here's the 5 cent packet of gum from 1961. that's a great, great bubble gum card, you'll. but the main reason that i'm boring in and i want to thank the sponsors of the symposium again for boring in on the battle of july 22nd is it allows us to compare what happened when the confederates sought to launch two flanking attacks. one was successful. we've talked about it. general jackson at chancellorsville and hood aspired to be jacksonian in his own right. he failed. let's talk about it. first of all, a step back. retreating joe johnston from the first week o