and i want the clecs to stay in business. i am not anti-clec. what we passed in 1996, it might have worked for 1996, but that world doesn't exist today, so let's figure out what exists today and in the future and go that way. and with that, mr. chairman, thank you for the hearing and i yield back. the gentleman yields back. we turn now to the gentleman from california, >> mr. waxman. >> thank you, mr. chairman. based on some of the testimony we heard today, one might think that we are evaluating a new network being built across the country, an ip network that runs on fiber lines and wireless airwaves. others suggest that this is no new network, but that new electronics that have been added to the copper and fiber infrastructure that has been transporting voice and data throughout the country for years. why are these distinctions important? if what we really care about are basic values like protecting consumers and competition, universal service and public safety, why does it matter what kind of infrastructure communications runs over? mr. feld,