clegg? for you, the trigger is the events of the fourth of july last year in particular, relations to milly dowler, and not for example, "the guardian" article of july 2009 or "the new york times" piece by the first of september 2010? >> no, the million dollar thing transform everything because dashing the milly dowler transform everything. the public i think quite rightly are different to the plight of politicians and celebrities. i think they quite rightly look after themselves as they can but i think it's a whole different manner when they see a family in the moment of unimaginable anguish and distress. being intruded upon in most grotesque fashion. and it made people very angry. i cannot believe that that level of intrusion that level of almost amoral behavior to the most helpless, innocent people i do not believe that would have a reason, other than in the context of a newsroom practices which were just totally out of control. and where people clearly felt they could operate by one set

clegg. can we start at paragraph 77 of$>d>d>d>d> your statement, page 1381 do.$>$>$>$>$>$>$>$> $> -- page 13812.$>$>$>$>$6 freedom accountability and plurality. are you aware, i think we were touching on the issue of plurality, and you would like there to be triggers into competition and plurality issues without a merger situation existing, is that the basic point you are making in paragraph 81? >> yes. the point i mentioned earlier, that size matters but size isn't just determined at the point of a transaction. they can come if you like creep up on you through the success of the particular group just increasing its market share. >> incidentally this issue about whether you come up with a cystoscope definition -- >> i'm not an expert on this but i'm fully open. i'm told that it's the size that is pretty tricky. but i mean that maybe one part of the reforms that one introduces two coherence in this area. >> so you wouldn't be advancing&<&<&

clegg on this. was that reference to you, could well be a reference to your visor, but do you happen to know >> ever serving no follow-up act between exhibits to mr.. december, page 01677, relates to but i suppose the question for is, were there, on our after none whatsoever. around the creative industry. you will know, as per tim's and recollection of the meeting. >> does this assistance at all with the last point, they need to support nick, which goes against his election promise, will be very tough for him. been concerned about sometime an substance by can imagine why them. >> thank you. the next one may not be as controversial. 01681, the 19th of december, 2010. the chief of staff, is in its? >> yes. >> he was very surprised when i pointed out to them that cable came to take a decision with influence to enter it is not a matter, it's a matter for the sector estate in accordance with what he is saying was entirely >> yes. was very keen vince cable should at hand in vince cable's office. and the l

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clegg, tha specific lessons need to be arned from not? >> what i was referring to is the report, it did not recommen any structural underpinning or basis for the new recommendations that were made. cal cut later concluded that that was a mistake. in the sense that relying upon arrangements which are in the gift of the press, it is based on, you know, a flaw. you are asking in the best interest of things which go wrong, which i can't say th best interest of society, which is so immune to the normal standards of accountability when things go wrong. it is an interesting characte it self regulation does not rk. >> it is populated by some very good people who try to do a vy od job into a very diligently but it is a relatively toothless operation. as i said, it is run by the people it is supposed to ho accountable. i'm sure we will cover this later, and i'm happy to enter into detail my reports on us. i think we are moving into a p

clegg. >> thank you.he committee investigating the relationship between the press and british politicians will hear from prime minister david cameron tomorrow morning. cameron, appointed lord justice brian leveson, appointed brian leveson to oversee the phone hacking inquiries. live coverage begins at 5:00 a.m. eastern on c-span 2. >> you're watching c-span 2 with politics and public affairs. on weeknights, watch key public policy than spend every weekend, the latest nonfiction authors and books on booktv. you can see past programs and get our schedules at her website, and you can join in the conversation on social media sites. >> kenya, indonesia, hawaii, kansas, in washington. this weekend on booktv. follow david transport. on barack obama, the story. live at 7:30 p.m., david takes your calls and questions. also this weekend, on afterwards, conservative politician blames liberals for a journey of clichÉs. >> by this idea that the further you move away from the left, one of the words that we use is one i

system that we were license was the first generation of the microsoft on-line e-mail system that, clegg's referred to as -- commonly referred to as bpus. when we followed up with department, kohler this thing's k.r.g. user training. a lot of people that not realize where to look for their e-mails are messages. we did a lot of investigations and we could not find any cases were anything have been deleted or lost. the good news is there has been -- the comptroller's office, we converted them. the department of human resources and others, that has been one of the more satisfying projects because everyone who goes all the new system is excited and the fact it has more functionality and is using -- easy to use and what they're used to using. we're about to embark on a microsoft is changing the first generation of e-mail. they have been doing that for the last six months and we're in line to get the city system that is upgraded. that has even additional capabilities that the first generation did not have an ally of the departments that expressed concerns about the functionality of the first gen

the chancellor, george osborne, and the current prime minister, david cameron, and his deputy, neck clegg, also appear this week. let's go to central lone done. our correspondent, naomi grimley is with us. gordon brown famous for cultivating rupert murdoch and newscorp over the years and then had a pretty spectacular falling-out. >> they had a mixed relationship. rupert murdoch quite admired gordon brown's presbyterian scottish background, and they seemed to get on, their wives in particular seemed to get on. however, in 2009, "the sun" switched its allegiance from the labour party to the conservatives, and rupert murdoch, when he appeared before this inquiry, told a story about gordon brown ringing him up in "an unbalanced state of mind," and basically ranting at him for the switching of the allegiance of the newspaper. and he claims gordon brown actually declared war on rupert murdoch's media empire. now, that is a story which gordon brown denies, but it's obviously an area where the lawyer who cross questioned mr. brown will want to probe him on. >> and also, naomi, we are going to hea

been overtly and enthusiastically campaigning on austerity is david cameron's government and nick clegg i mean are the if a liberal the lib dems go along with it that they're seen their their economy has been either quite collapsing or flat lining depending on the which month you're looking at. is this going to be a europe wide response and if so what lessons will america take from them. well i do think that england is doing is going down the same road that mr cameron is losing more and more support literally with each time he opens his mouth and does another austerity move the british economy is now again in recession his policies of austerity just like those in greece or spain or portugal or ireland have not worked and consequently you're building up a head of steam in europe of anger and resentment that is very likely to blow them all off of the political map and again that's why the greek election is so important because in a sense it gives the rest of europe the vision of where this can go and how a small leftist party in favor of nationalizing the banks and breaking with austerity

administration's been all the the justice department has been drilling it's going to have to people like roger clegg. has seen john cause zein be brought up on charges if they're bringing down m.f. global hey couldn't be because he was a big bundler for obama now it's just a little different again it's all the same yeah i agree obama's been wimpy on wall street but i guess what i'm asking is would it be worth with mitt romney i don't think so i think you'll be just as bad and you know this because you have congress and they're all in it together it's not going to change much what could become much worse how much worse could romney make it than obama in terms of helping out his wall street bodies is he going to give them more money yet just like obama would if we have another financial crisis you'll see the fed dump more dough into it so i don't think it will be much of a difference and you mentioned congress i have to ask you because. tween the last time i spoke with you and now we've seen jamie di men on the hill twice and if you want to get have any kind of evidence that would make you feel like n

clegg's in the 60 and 70-degree range, it deals warmer. -- when it gets in the 60 and 70-degree range, it feels warm air. we have had this flow higher in the atmosphere. some energy peace is generating some isolated showers and storms spread the winds are coming out of that south and that brings in higher temperatures. as it built in the atmosphere berkeley, we start heating up and that is when we get these big numbers. you see the effect of the ridge coming down the backside. this entire area is the area of high heat that will progress east for the next couple of days. there is the high off to the east and it will build as the air mass moves in. a chance of an isolated thunderstorms. thursday, we will go through it all over again. a cold front moves in from the west and that might give us a better chance of afternoon showers and storms and slightly cooler temperatures. friday of to maybe 93. 77 this evening. the skies will be mostly clear and muggy conditions when you get up. lo 70's in the city. as we had to the next seven days here are the numbers. when you get too far above averag

we had our deputy prime minister a man called nick clegg the other day actually saying that in the next six or seven years what they were doing was getting rid of the debt because we have to have a clean slate for our children and our children's children and you think. when the deputy prime minister of the country come to the difference between the deficit and the debt but really shows perhaps why we're in such an appalling mess it's a difference that even the chance of the second go wrong a couple of times in the budget but there is a sector in the economy that benefits from creating trillions of debt and then of course is the banking sector the same to have incredible leverage in lobbying influence in governments around the world including this government and they're not crying that the debt levels are exploding because they make money processing creating this debt and in dealing with the servicing of this debt and there is this idea of what's called a fire economy fire insurance and real estate we talked about the mortgage market we talked about the sub prime we talked about brad for

expected at the table, including john major, labour party leader ed millibland and -- miliband and ed clegg. we'll have live coverage of that all this week here on c-span2. >>> as this break continues, opening remarks from earlier today with former prime minister gordon brown. >> may i call this morning's witness, the right honorable gordon brown, please? >> thank you very much. [inaudible conversations] >> i swear by almighty god that the evidence i shall give shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. thank you. >> mr. brown, your full name, please. >> james gordon brown. >> you kindly provided us with a witness statement which is dated the 30th of may, 2012. it has the standard statement of truth, and you've signed it. is this your formal evidence to our inquiry? >> yes, it is. >> mr. brown, thank you very much. for the work that's, obviously, gone into the inquiry. i'm sorry that our start this morning's been delayed. >> it's fine by me, thank you very much. >> mr. brown, may we start your general comments which i'm going to ask you to elaborate, if i may? on the bot

tomorrow, deputy prime minister and liberal democrat leader, nick clegg, will face questioning and then thursday prime minister david cameron will take the stand. and live coverage all here on c-span2 starting at 5 a.m. eastern each morning. >> at 10:00 this morning the u.s. senate will gavel in. >> while the spree continues we will go back to testimony from former prime minister john major from earlier today. >> a plurality of the media. i think the media is so influential in so many ways. particularly in the way it impacts upon public opinion and the democratic system, that there needs to be a proper plurality of the. and so do take the view that parliament should set a limit on the percentage of the press, the written press, and a percentage of the electronic media that can be under the ocean of either one individual or one company. and i think collectively they also needed to give you, parliament needs to take a view under the sum total of cross media by which i mean the ownership of all the different media outlets. they should be a limit beyond which in the interest of plurality no

clegg about mr. coulson. how strongly did he express his concerns to you about mr. coulson? don't remember it being particularly strong, but he did raise the question and can i worked with andy coulson now for a good period of time. i thought he would do the job well, and so i had no hesitation in remembering him. that's how i remember the conversation going.j.j. >> what was the basis, if anyj.j. for his concerns as he expressed them to you? >> um, as far as i recall it was just, you know there has been controversy about this. are you, you know convinced that he's the right man for the job? >> and did he elaborate on the controversy or not? >> i don't remember. i don't remember the conversation in any great detail. i think he was just, he wanted to register the point. >> was it part of a wider conversation about other matters, or was it a conversation devote today this one issue? >> i don't recall that. i think -- it was i think a specific conversation. it may have been us wanting to make shoo people were as it were, sort of coalition-friendly. so that may have been an addit

clegg gave him, which would obviously be appropriate. to write is after that meeting. >> i think what happened, 3:00 press conference concluded, the news then hit the wires, i then had a series of meetings with the deputy prime minister, with my chief of staff, with other members of staff, including the permanent secretary at number 10 downing street, and we had a series of conversations about what are we going to do about this, because obviously vince cable could not continue adjudicate -- adjudicating this bid, but there was a broad question of the damage this would do to the government, the damage it would do to our reputation as dealing fairly with business and all the rest of it, and there was a conversation involving all of these people, and then also involving the chancellor, who would have been coming over to the 4:00 meeting at number 10 about what steps to take, and there was a pretty wide-ranging debate. jeremy haywoode made the suggestion about moving it across, and that, i thought, was the new straight forward way of dealing

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wednesday, it is deputy prime minister nick clegg and thursday, david cameron will take questions fromhe levinson inquiry. we will have live coverage starting at 5:00 a.m. eastern here on c-span 2. >> nancy pelosi began her career in the u.s. house in 1987. >> mr. speaker, as you know, eight years ago this month, the soviet union invaded afghanistan. to no one's surprise from the occupation of afghanistan has turned into a bloody war with no victors. a group of human rights lawyers from the united states, britain, sweden, and malta. documents countless acts of terror perpetrated against the afghan people. >> 25 years later, the current house minority leader was honored on the house floor by republican and democratic leaders. watch those tributes for any part of her career on the house and online at the c-span video library. you're watching c-span 2. weekdays featuring live coverage of the u.s. senate. on weeknights, watch key public policy events, and every weekend, the latest nonfiction authors and books on booktv. you can see past programs and get our schedules at her website, you ca

for example, we can move beyond the question, how can we get a lot more public funds clegg unfortunatelyin the reasonably near term there will be much additional money. the rising share of both state and federal budget committee to halt care broadly defining the leaves very little room for flexibility. and not monitor quite brutal. whether there is more money for less money in the long term, we should also focus on the challenge of figuring out how to use it as a particularly the money devoted to financially. how do we take it and get better results for students? iquique there are two principles worth keeping in mind. the first two said he should be structured providing incentives for both institutions and students, incentives to raise completion rates, incentives to raise income and employment of the graduate. if we look just a completion rate, the six-year graduation rate for apl institutions is just over 6% and the four-year rate is a little bit less than 40%. now, behind those statistics are about as student who aren't succeeding, who wind up with a lot of dead. tracking those studen

were slow off the mark -- "i mean, on monday night's news side, tom watson said your is guilty as clegg and cameron on not only letting the dowler family down, but simply not pushing hard enough on this whole issue. you were running to catch up." you obviously give an answer then. is your answer the same now? >> yes. i was too slow to speak out. at think is worth saying, if i can take this opportunity, but that moment -- what was significant about that moment, i knew at that moment is a said in my opening remarks, we were crossing the rubicon, because this would be seen by news international is pretty much an act of war. so, i think in retrospect, i would have preferred if i had said more earlier. of those talked about the inquiry that i called for in april and what i did in july. >> she also asked you about the hayman island trip. "what i say to you is this -- that i learned lessons from that episode." what lessons, precisely, are to be learned from that episode, if any? >> i think transparency as part of the answer. is not about who you have dinner with, but it's important to speak ou

clegg yesterday that it was a joint press conference at downing street, and it was leaving the margins of that conference that you learned of dr. cables remarks through a block or something similar. is that your recollection? >> that is absolutely my recollection. i remember walking down the stairs from the first floor of downing street and we had just done this press conference and someone telling me, you've got to see these remarks that have come out about what been its cable said. it was quite an important moment is the were important and significant remarks. >> so if we can focus on the highlights of what happened over the following few hours. we know from paragraph 161 of your statement that you had a meeting with dr. cable. mr. clay told us that this was after his meeting with dr. cable, which would obviously be appropriate. is there anything material which arises out of that meeting? >> 3:00, the press conference concluded. then hit the wires. then had a series of meetings the deputy prime minister, with my chief of staff, with other members of staff, including the permanent sec

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more scheduled tomorrow with testimony from deputy prime minister and liberal democrat leader nick clegg. watch that live starting at 5 a.m. eastern tomorrow here on c-span2. and we'll wrap things up thursday when current british prime minister david cameron is expected to take questions. that's also live at 5 a.m. here on c-span2. and join us tomorrow when defense secretary leon panetta and the chairman of the joint chiefs, general martin dempsey, will appear before a senate appropriations subcommittee to talk about the 2013 defense budget. that's live tomorrow starting at 10:30 a.m. eastern on our companion network, c-span3. >> nancy pelosi began her career in the u.s. house in 1987. >> mr. speaker, as you know, eight years ago this month the soviet union invaded afghanistan. to no one's surprise, the occupation of afghanistan has turned into a bloody war with no victors, a group of human rights lawyers from the united states, britain, sweden and malta documents countless acts of terror or perpetrated imeps the afghan people. >> twenty-five years later, the current house minority leade

clegg.ky. but i mean that maybe one part of the reforms that one introduces two coherence in this area. >> so you wouldn't be advancing&<&<&> no serve. i make is that i'm open to that but i don't have a particular figure in mine. i can imagine it is quite tricky to define percentage of what because groups will increasingly be run in different media. and how do you compose that figure? so i'm open to it. but i can imagine, well i'm anticipating it might be a little straightforward than it initially seems. >> you are comparing some light with light. the fact, if we take bskyb as an example the fact that sky has movie channels, historical geography -- geographical channels and all that. to what extent is that relevant -- >> that's right. >> the next issue is corporate governance, which you have touched on, but like i said we would return to it paragraph 8