we have to note that clegg's interview was remote and his video kept briefly freezing.uys, maybe that's an indication there are many more hurdles that we have to cross before the metaverse can actually come to fruition deirdre, if you have a live stream that can freeze, every couple of minutes, you know, how are you going to really be immersed in the metaverse? >> yeah. well, yesterday we had the long conversation about who else might join meta in building for the metaverse. today on the tape just now, julia, microsoft planning future metaverse apps for xbox and gaming ft, deirdre, has a piece microsoft takes on facebook by launching metaverse on teams so this is accelerating quickly. >> yeah. i mean, i feel like we talk less about microsoft but they could potentially be big players i know my 5-year-old son plays in the mine craft metaverse, this is the next generation. definitely not a name to be left out. >>> meanwhile the show we're also talking stable coins, are they the future? or a bubble waiting to burst president biden weighs in and we will discuss with the ceo