reverend barber, where were you when you heard that clem pinckney, state senator pinckney , and eight others were killed in this massacre at the church in charleston? >> we were actually in jail, about 10 of us had been arrested in the statehouse in north carolina for challenging extremist politicians who have passed the worst voter suppression law in the country. in fact, we were arrested for merely speaking up. they told us we could not exercise our first amendment right, and we found out about it in jail. amy: your reaction? >> i have a lot of mixed emotions. i have said the perpetrator has been arrested, but the killer is still at large. historically, what causes this kind of terroristic violence is when you have racialized political rhetoric and racialized policies. they become the spawning ground, the birthing ground, if you will, for terroristic violence and violent resistance. the flag, for instance, south carolina was put up and began to be waived more after the 1954 brown decision and then in 1962 at the height of the civil rights movement. the flag was put up as a resistanc

reverend clem pinckney was a father of two and south carolina state senator.e began his political career in 1996 but his life of faith started a very young able. nbc's craig melba has that story. >> reporter: welcome back to charleston, south carolina, a city that is grieving along with the rest of the country at this hour. nine people, nine people shot and killed inside a church a block behind me, several vigils are happening all over the state now. one of those vigils here in charleston is ongoing. six men three women killed, among them clementa pinckney the pastor of mother emanuel. pinckney was elected to the lower chamber here in south carolina when he was just 23 years old. at the time, he was the youngest elected representative since reconstruction in the history of the state. he was elected to the senate about ten years ago. he was called to preach at the aim of 13. he got his first church at 18. when i worked here some years ago, i covered the state house spent a fair amount of time covering clementa pinckney and he said once that he enjoyed politics

clem pinckney was like that with everybody. the church that he ran those people are the kindest people you will ever want to meet. it doesn't surprise me that they would welcome anybody and take that opportunity to share with them their own love. >> what were his interests in the state senate? i mean, i obviously know his deep faith because he was running a bible study class. but what about the state senate? what was his passion? >> clem was always involved mostly with the down trodden. just yesterday we had a finance committee meeting where he really fought for some additional surplus funds that we ran into this year. made sure to go to some foster children programs. that's the type of things he does. he is always there when you need him to fight for the people that need him the most. >> key reach across the aisle? >> always, always. clem was one of those guys that, you know, in political circles, it's all too often a debate, an adversarial type of arrangement where you are talking and debating the issue. clem was the type of

. >> reporter: pastor clem pinckney state senator. making it out alive, a brand mother and her 5-year-old granddaughter. the grand motor, when it was done telling her story to the pastor's cousin sylvia who spoke to abc's david muir. the gunman came in and asked, where's the minister? >> he asked that? >> he asked, where's the minister? and they showed him where he was. and clementa being the kind spirited person that he is he -- he had him to sit next to him when they were getting ready to dismiss. that he -- he started shooting. he loaded up about five times. >> you spoke with one of three survivors. there were three total? >> yes. >> what did she tell you? >> she said it was just horrible. it was just blood all over the place. she played dead in order to survive, in order to get him not to shoot her. >> she told her granddaughter to play dead too? >> play dead yes. when he got up that's when the gunman questioned him and started, you know, saying y'all rape our women and y'all have taken over the country. and i have to do what i ha

i will say this -- most people who know senator pinckney call him clem.ing good things about people even sometimes when we might not mean it. you talk about a good guy. in the south, in the country, probably the highest regards you could give people. clem pinckney was good people. highly thought of by anyone who engaged with him. this is truly a significant loss for the people of south carolina, huge loss for the ame church mother emanuel church is the center as far as we're concerned of african methodism. it hurts very deeply. the whole family that -- we love them and we're praying for them right now. >> he and the other eight people who lost their lives last night. >> absolutely. >> mayor steve benjamin thank you for being with me this morning. >> thank you so much. >> watching these images of clem pinckney now that we know that to be the exact and complete opposite is this person that they're looking for, identified as dylann roof. who police say walked into that church last night and took out so many important lives, every life is important. every sin

. >>> well the body of that pastor state senator clem pinckney was brought to the south carolina stateouse today. a steady stream of mourner passed through the rotunda to pay their respects. pinckney's funeral is set for friday at the college of charleston. president obama and vice-president biden will be there. the president is expected to deliver the you'll rolling. >>> well the race for the white house got more crowd. we'll tell you about the latest contender throwing his hat in the ring next. are you in search of a new job? if so you might want to work on your selfie skills. that's right. three on your side's jim donovan will show you how self portraits might help you land work. >> hmm. >> kathy? >> interesting. in weather we're talking about a series of low pressure systems moving our way. one developing that could create a wet weekend. we'll take look at the possibilities with the seven day forecast. >>> it's been deemed the best pizza in america and it's right here in fishtown. i'm natasha brown. we talk to people who traveled miles just to taste >> big news in campaign 2016. ju

a local library manager, and the pass theory clementa pinckney, clem to everyone who knew him. their lives and legacies and who they leave behind. >>> good afternoon, everyone. mother emanuel, the oldest african methodist episcopal in the south t. holding vigils president obama delivering a statement on the shooting, saying he's had to do this too many times. by our count, at least 14 times. sandy hook all error ale, ft. hood the navy yard binghamton on and on and now charleston. today all of us are reeling, trying to understand how and why a house of worship was transformed into a house of unspeakable tragedy. today especially with father's day approaching, the focus on the families missing their loved ones the nine killed. emergency room doctors say they knew it was going to be horrible. but then when the minutes kept by and they kept waiting for victims to come in waiting for victims to treat, and only one of them made it to the hospital only one of them was treatable. all of the victims have now been identified cynthia hurd tywanza sanders, sharonda singleton, susy jackson,

i couldn't possibly use the words as lovingly and creatively as clem pinckney.sting forgiveness and probably talking about how the community can come together to create change in the wake of a tragedy. i know he wouldn't want all this attention focused on him. he would want it on the message, the movement and the different ways that we can make not only charleston but maybe the whole country a better place. >> martin have you gotten a chance to talk with people? what are they saying? >> oh well i mean first of all people here want to express that the unity of this community. and you feel it. it isn't something people have to come up and tell you. you spend one minute outside of emanuel a.m.e. church in front of the growing memorial in front of the people who pray the people who come from all across the country to pay their respects in a kind of pilgrimage. if only we could all live as we feel in the shadow of emanuel a.m.e. church. >> thanks to you both. >>> the next hour of cnn "newsroom" starts now. >>> this is cnn breaking news. >>> all right breaking news to

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the pastor where clem pinckney was getting his doctor rat. you knew him and serving with him as a mentor role. how are you feeling about him today and more importantly, the broader methodist family in terms of coping and dealing with this tragedy? >> well, there's so much shock, not only among the penn methodist family, but among people of goodwill everywhere. it's the kind of tragedy that so many are identifying with, such an utterly senseless loss. >> talk a little bit about mr. pinckney and his life. he accomplished so much at such a young able. we pointed out earlier, he was a state senator, church leader. what made him so successful would you say? >> well, he had the natural gifts for leadership and he was elected to the state house at 23 senate at 27. but more importantly is just who he was as a person. he was such a caring, loving humble person. and i can guarantee you that when that shooter joined that prayer service, he was accepted. he was loved. they were happy to have him there. and then he turned on people. >> that is so interest

you were a friend of clem pinckney. resolve is important, why?kney would want resolve. this comes in the aftermath of what we experienced. it was that experience although a horrific one for this county but we had a resolve and galvanized to create a body camera. >> he pushed for that. >> he was one of the main proponents of that law. >> how do you and your colleagues pick up the work not only in the legislature, but the work he was doing this this community, as a church leader and community leader? >> there's a big void. we are going to need all people of good will to do that. this is a resilient community. >> i felt that. >> just as on yesterday, we had a prayer service for unity, we are going to have to galvanize behind a legislative agenda and put race relations in south carolina at the forefront. >> you talked to us on air yesterday and mentioned you felt there is an issue with race relations in the country or in your area specifically. in the country, yes, but i know you are speaking specifically because this is an area you serve. talk about

by and also i'm joined by jason johnson who says his real education began the day that he met clem pinckney. johnson is a college professor, he's a political analyst and he's live in atlanta as well. professor, i'll ask you to stand by for a moment so i can check in with my colleague just to get a feel for the silent pictures that we're watching. victor? >> silent really is the right characterization of this. there are hundreds of people, maybe more than a thousand people who are here on the statehouse grounds. you see the long line there as people begin to file in starting at 1:00 to pay their respects to senator clementa pinckney and what you're hearing from not just people inside who knew him inside the house chamber or the senate chamber from people who did not know him. i walked up to a woman and asked her why did she come here, it's 100 degrees. and she's standing outside on the street corner an she said for her it was not an option. she had to be here because of the reverence she had for this man and that he was praising god when he was shot and killed, as well as those eight other p

among them the late pastor clem pinckney. what were your impressions of him? young politician over in the jasper buford county area in south carolina. he's always been a people person. he's representing the low country of south carolina quite well in the state senate of south carolina and an outstanding minister in the ame church. a rising star. so we really going to miss his leadership in the south carolina state house. and also in the african-american methodist episcopal church. i'm sure bishop norris and people of the 7th district will really miss his solid leadership. >> and mother emanuel had a reputation of having those doors open welcoming people. this is how, you know dylann roof was to easily access join the bible study. you remember hearing from one of the victims' family members who said, we enjoyed you we welcomed you. what is the discussion now at other ame churches thinking about their own vul nerbilities. like your church, you have the doors open. at the same time now you have members of the congregation at churches across the country saying how

you know, i'm proud to call clem pinckney a friend of mine and many of my former colleagues in the legislaturend senate feel the same way. the politics this past week have been taken out of this. this is no longer a political issue. this is personal, and because of that, i think you'll see the governor come out this afternoon, call for the removal of the flag. i think you will see others join that cohorus and i think this time at last the flag will come down off the state house grounds. >> before that happens, boyd, yes, you definitely are from a different political party, but what do you say to these republican presidential candidates? you heard -- we played some sound from mike huckabee when mike huckabee says this is not an issue for someone running for president. he says everyone is being baited with this question as if it has anything to do whatsoever with running for president. what do you say to mike huckabee? >> well, first, i think to echo what has been said coming out of charleston, i'll trpray for mik huckabee because in his heart of hearts he know what is the right answer is. he's

. >> reporter: that is the voice of pastor clem clementa pinckney. >> to say our thoughts and prayersith them doesn't say enough to convey the heartache and the sadness and the anger that we feel. >> reporter: emanuel a.m.e. is the oldest episcopal church in the southern u.s. >> this church has a particularly meaning in terms of being a political site, an educational site and a social site. >> reporter: the pews were filled when south carolina native jesse jackson spoke there in 1984 as a democratic presidential candidate. [indiscernible] >> reporter: and the church was a key stop for leaders during the civil rights movement, including the reverend dr. martin luther king, jr. the physical building has been burned to the ground and destroyed in an earthquake. each time it has been rebuilt. former pastor steven singleton says the church is a symbol of its people. >> it was literally formed to make a statement, a majestic sanctuary was built to prove that people of color could do great things. >> reporter: singleton says the church not only survived tough times but thrived and it will do

it comes to these tragedies is even if the flag got removed tomorrow, that's not going to bring clem pinckneyand that's not going to bring back walter scott and that's not going to stop voter i.d. laws from being promoted it won't stop jeb bush from claiming he wants to run for president but at the same time saying he favors voter i.d. laws and doesn't want to admit this was a racist attack. i think sometimes we can focus on things that are symbolic and not say there are structural institutional and policy things that need to change here. and while removing the flag may be one small step it's not bringing back anybody's lives. there's more work to do than just this. >> joel specifically getting to the shooting we hear a lot of talk about gun reforms and mental health reforms but not a lot of politicians want to talk about race. and there are witnesses from this terrible event who claim that the alleged shooter dylann roof made these specific remarks to the victims. he has been seen wearing white supremacist insignia on his clothing. is the real issue being ignored? >> i don't know that it's b

. >>> state senator and pastor clem men at a pinckney has become the first african-american since reconstruction to rest in honor in the south carolina rotunda. pinckney was one of nip people killed when a gunman opened fire at the emmanuel ame church in charleston a week ago. a carriage led by two white horses brought his casket down main street to the state house grounds where mourners lined up to pay their final respects. then, members of the honor guard carried his body inside. his funeral is scheduled for friday. >>> definite man attacked beaten as he sat outside a coffee shop. but police say the attackers wrestled out of his hands before getting away. >>> and angry customers say they paid thousands for new furniture only to be told they were out of luck. >> they told me that the guy moved, that i have to go to small claims court. they changed the name. >> where one woman is now forced to sleep that will break your heart. >> think you've got a problem with your co-workers? what one man says he found this guy slipping into this water. >> families pack into a theater to see the new disney fli

victims six females and three males including 41-year-old pastor and state senator clementa pinckney known as clem>> i truly believe that god's purpose will be revealed even in the midst of this tragedy. >> reporter: the alleged shooter 21-year-old dylann roof is now in police custody captured more than 200 miles away in shelby, north carolina. some say the crime was racially motivateed. the shooting again bringing up the issue of race relations in the united states. >> the fact that this took place in a black church obviously also raises questions about a dark part of our history. this is not the first time that black churches have been attack. >> reporter: federal officials joined local authorities in the investigation. attorney general loretta lynch says the department of justice will now handle this case as a hate crime. in charles ton, south carolina, joel waldman fox news. >>> we're learning more tonight about the people gunned down inside that church. six of them were women. three men. as we've reported state senator clementa pinckney the church's pastor was among those killed. others inclu

meantime, there will be a solemn moment later today, the body of state senator clem meant ta pinckneyte. the pressure is up on these lawmakers. >> reporter: it certainly is. lawmakers are under pressure and other entities the citadel in charleston, the board of visitors has voted to remove the confederate flag from the chapel there. and also stores that sell confed rat memorabilia, amazon exbay and sears have agreed to stop selling the confederate flag. back at the statehouse, lawmakers from both chambers voted overwhelmingly to vote later this summer on what to do with the confederate battle flag of northern virginia the flag that flies at the confederate memorial here at the statehouse what they will do about that flag. in the meantime they want to turn their attention to commemorating the life and times of their colleague, senator clementa pinckney his body will be brought to the statehouse here in a horse drawn carriage and lie in state in the capitol rotunda until tomorrow. a public viewing until 5:00 today. thousands are expected. the senator served not only in the house but als

things that's missing now that senator pinckney is gone is the peacemaker the guy who was always calm, who would remind us of the better angels of ourselves. clem was that senator. that's a big hole in the state senate, but in a way he's doing that right now. >> pelley: pinckney's desk was draped in black topped with a white rose. thousand waited for hours to pay their respects. fridays at the funeral, president obama will deliver the eulogy. the attack came during a bible study one week ago and this evening, the faithful are gathering again at emmanuel a.m.e. church. michelle miller is there. >> we are still saddened by the loz. we still try cry. we still grieve. we still have broken hearts. but we serve a god who's able to carry us through. >> reporter: reverend norvel goff is leading bible study at mother emanuel church tonight. why? >> because i think it sends the right message. no evil in this world can overtake the faith in which we have. >> reporter: goff is the head of the church district and has been named interim pastor. what will be the first bible passage that you will read tonight? >> well, one of the first ones, the lord is my she

pinckney would want. >> no way. i didn't call him clem. i called him clementa. e small class. at age around 16 he aspierd to become a minister. when he became a senator, most of his legislation that he put forth was helping people bringing aids finance, and policy be where needed in the poverty community of this county. and so his record is one of such he's always been doing something for somebody. >> he has left an indelible mark on this community. he leaves behind a wife and two church. thank you, sir. appreciate your time. >> well, authorities are very guarded at this point about the level of detail that they are giving to the media at this point about the suspect in the charleston shooting. one thing they do seem clear on though at this point is that he was alone in his actions. take a listen. >> do you believe he acted alone? >> i do yes. we don't have any reason to believe there was anybody else involved. >> all right. so for more on the process of how authorities were able to capture the suspect i'm joined now by senior vice president and security officer,

a moment of silence for state senator clem men ta pinckney. >> i'm proud to be on the right side of historyrom the statehouse but let it not satisfy us to stop there. justice by house is not justice. we must take towndown the confederate flag. if we stop there, we cheated ourselves out of an opportunity to start a different discussion about healing in our state. i am ready. >> what's started in columbia is spreading around the country. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell called for a statue of confederate president jefferson davis to be removed from the kentucky statehouse's rotunda, a move backed by both candidates for governor. they want the flag off state license plates and there's a push to take confederates off state grounds. brick and mortars like walmart and sears will stop and google we take confederate flag content off its shopping ads. even the country's biggest flag makers valley forge will stop producing them. still some businesses are reporting surges on sales online and stores like this one in alabama. so what do you make of it? i -- i can't believe we have to wait through

no wonder one of the senate colleagues remember senator pinckney as the most gentle of the 46 of us. the best of the 46 of us. clemas often asked why he chose to be a pastor and a public servant. but the person who asked probably didn't know the history of a.m.e. church. [applause] as our brothers and sisters in the a.m.e. church know, we don't make those distinctions. our calling, clem once said is not just within the walls of the congregation, but the life and community in which our congregation resides. [applause] he embodied the idea that our christian faith demands deeds, and not just words. that the sweet hour of prayer actually lasts the whole week long. that to put our faith in action is more than just individual salvation. it's about our collective salvation. that to feed the hunger and clothe the naked and house the homeless is not just a call for isolated charity, but the imperative of a just society. what a good man. sometimes i think that's the best thing to hope for when you're eulogized. after all, the words and recitations and resumes are read, to just say somebody was a good man. announcer: [appla

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no wonder wulone of the senate colleagues remembered senator pinckney as the most gentle of the 46 of us, the best of the 46 of us. clem was often asked why he chose to be a pastor and a public servant. but the person who asked probably didn't know the history of the ame church. >> our brothers and sisters in the ame church know we don't make those dysfunctions. our calling clem once said is not just within the walls of the congregation but the life and community in which our congregation resides. he embodied the idea that our christian faith demands deeds not just works, that the sweet hour of prayer actually lasts the whole week long. that to put our faith in action is more than just individual salvation. it is about our collective cal vation salvation, to feed the hungry, clothe the naked and house the homeless is not just a call for isolated charity but the imperative of a just society. what a good man. sometimes i think that's the best thing to hope for when you're you'll jized. after all the hope and rest sit tations are read, to say somebody was a good man. you don't have to be of high station to be a good man.

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no wonder one of his senate colleagues remembered senator pinckney as the most gentle of the 46 of us the best of the 46 of us. clemnd sisters in the ame church know we don't make those distinctions. our calling, clem once said is not just within the walls of the congregation but the life and community in which our congregation resides. [ applause ] he embodied the idea that our christian faith demands deeds and not just words. that the sweet hour of prayer actually lasts the whole week long. that the to put our faith in action is more than just individual salvation, it's about our collective salvation. that to feed the hungry and clothe the naked and house the homeless is not just a call for isolated charity but the imperative of a just society. what a good man. sometimes i think that's the best thing to hope for when you're eulogized. after all the words and recitations and resumes are read, to just say somebody was good man. [ applause ] you don't have to be of high station to be a good man. preacher by 13 pastor by 18 public servant by 23. what a life clementa pinckney lived. what an example he set. what a mode

no wonder one of his senate colleagues remembered senator pinckney as the most gentle of the 46 of us. the best of the 46 of us. clemstor and a public servant. but the person who asked probably didn't know the history of the ame church. as our brothers and sisters in the ame church know we don't make those distinctions. our calling, clem once said is not just within the walls of the congregation but the life and community in which our congregation resides. he embodied the idea that our christian faith demands deeds and not just words. that the sweet hour of prayer actually lasts the whole week long. that to put our faith in action is more than just individual salvation, it's about our collective salvation. to feed the hungry clothe the naked and house the homeless is not just a call for isolated charity, but the imperative of a just society. what a good man. sometimes i think that's the best thing to hope for when you're eulogized. after all the words, just say somebody was a good man. you don't have to be of high station to be a good man. preacher by 13 pastor by 18 public servant by 23. what a life clementa pinckn

pinckney. also a state senator. joining me is a friend of this man known by everyone i have spoken to as clem.s the house pi north leader, the house democratic leader in south carolina. tell me about your friend. >> clem was somebody who was guided to do what was best for his community at an early age. he was called to the church according to him when he was 13. he was ordained as a minister when he was 18. elected to the house at 21 and elected to the senate at 27. he died at age 40. he died far too young but died trying to do the work for the people of south carolina and for the people of this country. that's all did he. he traveled frequently but always for his church family, always looking out for his constituents here in charleston and throughout the local country. >> and he has two young kids. >> president obama called me this morning to make sure i expressed his sympathies from the president and first lady to senator pinckney, to his family, and to the charleston family at large, and i can assure you his death will not be in vain. >> how is his family doing? >> i haven't talked to anyon

pinckney once said across the south, we have a deep appreciation of history. we haven't always had a deep appreciation of each other's history. what is true in the south is true for america. clemnderstood that justice grows out of recognition. of ourselves in each other. that my liberty depends on you being free too. that history can't be a sword to justify injustice, or a shield against progress but must be a manual for how to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past. how to break the cycle. a roadway toward a better world. he knew that the path of grace involves an open mind. but, more importantly, an open heart. that's what i felt this week. an open heart. that more than any particular policy or analysis is what is called upon right now, i think. what a friend of mine the writer marilyn robertson calls that reservoir of goodness beyond and of another kind that we are able to do each other in the ordinary cause of things. that reservoir of goodness. if we can find that grace, anything is possible. if we can tap that grace, everything can change. amazing grace. amazing grace. ♪ amazing grace how sweet the sound ♪ ♪ that saved a wretch like me ♪ ♪ i once was lost but now i am

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