it was the clement attlee government which created the national parks out of the conviction clean air morrison who brought the festival of britain to every corner of the country, and the wilson government who created the first ever arts minister, jennie lee, whose motto, arts for everyone, everywhere, enriched lives in everywhere, enriched lives in every single part of our country. applause and it was the tony blair government through the amazing tessa jowell who brought the london 2012 olympics to britain and inspired a generation of young people like imogen to go on, dream big, cheap beer, and inspire the next. find on, dream big, cheap beer, and inspire the next.— on, dream big, cheap beer, and inspire the next. and opened up with the support _ inspire the next. and opened up with the support of _ inspire the next. and opened up with the support of chris - with the support of chris smith, gordon brown and tony blair, our national museums and galleries to the nation, returning them to the people to whom they belong. applause you see, we have never accepted in labour that the chance t

he would _ minister clement attlee, studious. he would probably settle for that!nt. clement attlee did not start that way either, by the way! the _ way either, by the way! the honeymoon appears to be over before it has even started, helena? i don't think we were ever talking about honeymoons, given the state of the nation at the point where the election took place, and people were generally feeling that they had had enough, and you have got to remember that almost every single institution in this country is on its knees, from the nhs to schools to universities to local authorities to the justice system, which universities to local authorities to thejustice system, which i can speak about, but everything is actually groaning with the pain of what it has gone through over recent years, and every one of them is in financial crisis and every one of them is hungry for resource, and there is no resource, so he has inherited something pretty bloody, and i think he knows that. i think a lot of people felt they wanted honesty and let's see whether honesty and let's see whe

convictions and your beliefs, and you've got to sell it to the public every time, whether that be clement attleeblair, margaret thatcher or even boris johnson, where they had a clear , distinctive vision had a clear, distinctive vision of what they wanted to see the country and the public gave them all overwhelming mandates to deliver upon that. and that's what the conservative party needs to recapture. >> jonathan, very briefly, if you can, notwithstanding, whoever becomes leader of the conservative party, most likely towards the end of october before the budget on the 31st, do you think it's inevitable that whoever wins will have to work in some way with nigel farage in order to prevent a decade of labour in power? >> i think if you're talking about work in terms of how parliament operates and using opposition day debates, obviously questions on the floor of the house, those kind of conversations behind the scenes will always happen with opposition parties of all kinds, but that liberal democrats will also be included. do i want to see us do a deal with nigel farage? absolutely not. he's been

clement attlee, who was the great reforming labour prime minister.r, but had an optimistic story to tell. so i think he needs to look back in history. starmer and think more positively about telling us, giving us something more to look forward to rather than all the negative stuff about, oh, that wicked old tory government. although i have to say, bev, when he did stick the bootin say, bev, when he did stick the boot in on the tories, that probably got him the loudest cheen >> oh really? the vindictiveness is still alive and well there, andrew. then this morning the three words that he used repeatedly about the country , repeatedly about the country, and perhaps we should give him some credit. this maybe, is how he's trying to change the narrative, is he said he wants a secure, prosperous and a dynamic uk, a dynamic great britain , but uk, a dynamic great britain, but not an awful lot. of course, maybe this isn't the time to say how he's going to make that happen. and the other thing that struck me was this idea that, you know, understandably, it's t