you've written again amazing biographies, i'm a huge nan of the clementi book, the lombardi is fantastic those were written at a time when the resources available to you through technology to gather material and process material were maybe not the same as they are now. the life of the a biographer, the process has been impaated byy ccess to records, technology and all that. i would imagine significantly. >> well, there's so much i could talk about there. i was afraid and i'm thinking about future biigraphers what will be on the record -- is it all going to be email and tweets and so on. >> right. >> luckily barack obama did write letters and he did keep a journal and he was a writer. so that helped in terms of that. and he was -- everybody had to deal with for the most part was alive and his parents were and his grandparents. and the hundreds of interviews that go into this book. i went to 16 libraries and archives around the world for this book. and everything i do is sort of three things. i believe in going there, wherever there is -- >> yep. >> so for the lombardi book and turning to

a year ago, rutgers freshman tyler clementi, that young man right there, his life was thrown on to the internet. it was more than he could bear. he went to the george washington bridge and took his own life. almost a year to the day from tyler's suicide, jamie rodimeyer lost his battle with bullies. took part in a campaign online and hoped it would get better. some night he outlived that hope. the bullying outlived him. his sister and friends were taunted the night of his wake at school. we have come to know jamie and tyler this past year just as we came to know so many children. these are the faces of other students, other students who have taken their own lives after being bullied. the bullying happens every day in school and online, sometimes we don't know about it. sometimes we just hear stories about it and sometimes it is even caught on tape. watch. >> get off my book bag. >> okay. >> move! move! >> what? why you punching me? no. no. no. why you stabbing me with it? >> i'll knock your face off. >> you heard the other kids say give it to him hard. that's a boy named alex. some of