cleta mitchell has one on behalf of tea party groups, they're charged viewpoint discrimination. what do you make of these suits and their prospects? >> i think these suits are going to be a really important way for us to learn more about what happened. there was a lawsuit filed this week by the american center for law and justice. they brought out a lot of information that people hadn't heard before, notably that it wasn't just in cincinnati, that there were two offices in california, as well as they had letters from washington, d.c. and also made clear in this lawsuit that they had letters that were signed by lois lerner that were part of those intrusive questionnaires and, and that these questionnaires have been coming up until one month ago. that completely contradicts the irs' position that all of this targeting stopped in may 2012. so that's an entirely different ball game. >> paul: all right. lots more to discover here. when we come back with more irs hearings to come and growing calls for the attorney general to resign. can president obama move beyond the controversies th

>> the lawyer behind this breaking scandal was cleta mitchell.nd she was the lawyer for patriot voices. we went to her and said we need to set up a c4. she said the irs is targeting these groups and they will run you through the wringer and her advice was take a step back and let this thing clear out and maybe they will change their tune and not put you through the wringer because of high profile political character. it turns out in talking to them, they haven't changed their tune at all. here the irs is under scrutiny for what they are doing and targeting the conservative and tea party group and they haven't changed a bit. they are sending out letters asking people what they are doing and i talked to her, i have's year to file those track record of doing grate public person and working with people with desabilities and defeating the, n treaty of robbing parents of discretion with disabled children. we are willing to stand up to the scrutiny. it is uncoinsiable and they are doing it and continue to arrogantly pursue the hosstillitty in light of t

>> the lawyer behind this breaking scandal was cleta mitchell.nd she was the lawyer for patriot voices. we went to her and said we need to set up a c4. she said the irs is targeting these groups and they will run you through the wringer and her advice was take a step back and let this thing clear out and maybe they will change their tune and not put you through the wringer because of high profile political character. it turns out in talking to them, they haven't changed their tune at all. here the irs is under scrutiny for what they are doing and targeting the conservative and tea party group and they haven't changed a bit. they are sending out letters asking people what they are doing and i talked to her, i said we need to file those documents and we have's year track record of doing grate public person and working with people with desabilities and defeating the, n treaty of robbing parents of discretion with disabled children. we are willing to stand up to the scrutiny. it is uncoinsiable and they are doing it and continue to arrogantly pursue

>> actually the lawyer behind this breaking scandal was a woman named cleta mitchell, lawyer for patriotoices. when we set up our 501(c)4, we went there, said we need to set up the papers and c 4, she said you don't want to do this, the irs is targeting these groups, they're going to run you through the ringer. her advice to us was take a step back, let this thing clear out a bit, maybe they'll change their tune, not put you through the ringer because of your political -- you're a high profile political character. it turns out talking to her a few weeks ago, they haven't changed their tune at all. that's the amazing thing about this. the irs is under incredible scrutiny for what they've done and targeting conservative groups, tea party groups. they're continuing to do it. haven't changed a bit. still sending letters, asking people what they're doing, why they're doing it. i talked to cleta, i said we need to eventually file the documents, we have a track record, working on public policy, working on rights of people with disability, defeating that u.n. treaty that would rob parents discre

out a couple of lawyers who represent a number of the tea party organizations, jay sekulow and cleta mitchellis investigation? they go, we haven't been contacted by the f.b.i. yet. so why exactly are they slow walking the news over at the f.b.i.? good question. >> gretchen: with benghazi, remember the f.b.i. couldn't get it on the ground there for two weeks for a variety of reasons. could it be because they were so upset in libya, the leader was, because he had been embarrassed by calling it a terrorist attack and the united states was not calling it a terrorist attack. whatever the case is, there have been no arrests made with regard to who killed those four americans and here were more questions now for the f.b.i. director muller yesterday with regard to benghazi. >> the quicker you get to a crime scene, the better you're going to be able to investigate it and process it, right? >> absolutely. >> and the bureau did not get to the crime scene at benghazi for how long? >> two weeks. >> and why did the bureau not get to the crime scene in benghazi for two weeks? >> there were a number of facto