have cleta mitchell or john eastman found election fraud?there has never been a case that found widespread election fraud. there is no widespread election fraud in the united states. it's extremely isolated and rare when it does happen. you can look at the efforts in texas where attorney general paxton poured millions of dollars into an investigative fund and was able to come up with less than a dozen cases. in florida, there was a big effort to hunt for election fraud, and, again, that was well below 100 when, you know, elections are decided by tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of votes. there's never been a case, nor is anyone currently claiming there's such widespread election fraud that we need armies of poll watchers hunting for it. there's never been a case where it's come close to determining the outcome of a statewide or federal presidential election. >> and when they manufacture quote unquote evidence, have they ever convinced a judge to vote in their favor? have they ever won anything in court on this issue? >> recently, no.

congress is trying to get back and vote, trump himself was on the phone to his key lawyer, cleta mitchellt the georgia lawsuits that they were trying to pursue to overturn the election in georgia. so they're committed to this. it failed in 2020, really because they were caught flat footed, and sort of ended up being a debacle of incompetence. what's happened since then is resources, energy, and planning has gone into it. >> that's right. >> and they're now dead serious about it, and they're organized and cleta mitchell, the person i mentioned on these e-mails, she spent the past 18 months training republican conservative activists to be election monitors, police stations and various other places in the midterms, so this is ongoing, but it's intensifying. it's intensifying. >> and by the way, the documents are out there. they're all out there. the texts are out there. it was a conspiracy, a conspiracy that's very well documented. they were trying to steal an american presidential election, and we're figuring out, asking each other, how do we steal this election. how do we -- and everybody