if you're running for high office, about to take high office, just clete it. it's not necessary. >> if only the media would have followed that because that really is a very good -- that is a very good guideline to follow. unfortunately the media hasn't followed it referencing donald trump and fascism. "new york times" has had one section after another, even their art section. i agree what donald trump did was repugnant. i wish somebody could wrestle his phone away from him, and i wish other people wouldn't respond. i don't know. >> we can't say, just to put it all out on the table, i think you would agree with this, you can't say congressman john lewis responded it and he had a right to respond when his presidency was questioned or the cia started it or trump started it and cia had a right to respond. of course you have a right to respond to egregious statements. they shouldn't be made, whether it's lewis, sorry. sorry, with so much due respect. unless everybody at this table thinks this presidency is illegitimate, that's probably not the most constructive thi