robert: cleve, i'm so glad you're on the program. because you've been reporting for weeks, months, for "the washington post" in florida. and florida is seeing a spike in cases. how is that surge in cases affecting the politics in that key state? >> yeah. we're looking at a situation where one out of every 100 floridians has coronavirus, right? and people are petrified. they're worried. they're afraid. but i think they're also beginning to look at, you know, what is the reason for this? what is the cause of it? why are one in every four coronavirus cases, you know, in florida? and whether there's a political reason, whether it's the governor who should do something differently? robert: and is the governor -- what's the governor -- governor ron desantis what's his political outlook at this moment? he's so close to president trump. >> yeah. you know, back in april, ron desantis had a news conference in the holy office -- oval office with president trump saying desantis is doing exactly what we -- what he wanted governors to do. he's an