i just didn't -- cleve jones, who was harvey milk's political aide -- i was using him more as somebodyke, i traveled the country, i made calls around the world for about a year looking for real people. and originally, i heard the name roma guy. everywhere i went in the country people were talking about this activist who had been fighting for women for some time. for women's equality. everybody knew her name. i had never met her. i called cleve and i said would you introduce me to this roma guy, and he did. she was the first to sign on and say yes. but i realized in that research how rare it is that someone is a lifetime activist. >> yeah. >> seth: yeah. >> like cleve jones had been. that someone who fights from their teenage years all the way until now. which is what all these characters do. and that they never give up that fight. it's incredibly difficulty work. my mom called cleve jones the gay forrest gump. >> seth: uh-huh. >> as a film maker i call him the gay zellig? because he was literaly at every -- >> everything, yeah. >> single critical moment in the movement. and he always t