watch viewers will l know there have been a number of big bbc scandals before, jimmy southwell, cliff richardses here on this programme about them. covid jimmy southwell. you mentioned covering the bbc in the future, do you think it will be a big part of your brief. —— saville. the bbc is a big beast in the media landscape so i do not think i could say to you i will not be covering it a reasonable amount so in that instance, yes i think i do think it will be a reasonable amount of what i'm covering but i think first of all there is an enormous global media landscape out there in the intersection of media with tech and all sorts of other issues to cover is on the media briefing won't only be the bbc. some viewers may think the media are obsessed with stories about themselves. as a public true? �* , , true? it's interesting, there is a question _ true? it's interesting, there is a question of— true? it's interesting, therel is a question of navel-gazing is a question of navel—gazing isn't it and certainly i have had the odd father—in—law my only have one, but saying i don't know why you are rep

yeah, it's just that same happened with cliff. richardt the police didn't, you know that the police the police tip the media, hey, we're here to make any judgement happen me appropriate. happen to me. i was appropriate. somebody would have. and our response turned up. and when i was released the following day had no charges because in my own house and all that well the new case press would a you must you must listen you've had all the bad time i've been through some horrible stuff with the press as well but you've you've had great successes in life. you've had very tough few years . you know, very tough few years. you know, you've had a tough time misery of going through all this. the press , the intrusion , the autism press, the intrusion, the autism diagnosis. you've had a very, very tough time. well, you're autism diagnosis was actually a relief, was it? it wasn't . oh, relief, was it? it wasn't. oh, poor me . i mean, i've never felt poor me. i mean, i've never felt different i mean, it it puts some pieces together. oh, that was why i

yeah, it's just that same happened with cliff. richardt the police didn't, you know that the police the police tip the media, hey, we're here to make any judgement happen . appropriate. happen to me. i was appropriate. somebody would have. and our response turned up. and when i was released the following day had no charges because in my own house and all that well the new case press would a you must you must listen you've had all the bad time i've been through some horrible stuff with the press as well but you've you've had great successes in life. you've had very tough few years . you know, very tough few years. you know, you've had a tough time misery of going through all this. the press , the intrusion , the autism press, the intrusion, the autism diagnosis. you've had a very, very tough time. well, you're autism diagnosis was actually a relief, was it? it wasn't . oh, relief, was it? it wasn't. oh, poor me . i mean, i've never felt poor me. i mean, i've never felt different i mean, it it puts some pieces together. oh, that was why i f

cliff richard yes . and then yet. cliff richard yes.than both of you remember her when she was much, much older everything from high ice cold in early , all the way cold in early, all the way through to comedy. yep and she even done roles such as victim , even done roles such as victim, which was really ahead of its time . so she starred again time. so she starred again i think it was that part of his name. i think he had that depakote and no actress wanted to take that role because she actually starred as the he found that his her husband was homosexual. and she said at the time she wanted to change people's and beliefs. people's attitude and beliefs. and love . and that's what i love. actresses generation actresses of that generation just have this in depth store and background to them. so when they do , it is a bit of a they do, it is a bit of a celebration but it's also a reflection of someone's participation in the entertainer industry. she was awarded obe in two thousand and seven, but it wasn't for acting work. it was actually fo

newswatch viewers will know there've been a number of big bbc scandals before — jimmy savile, cliff richarding. who cares about it?" but actually, first of all, i don't think, in this specific instance, it is navel—gazing because it's an important story, it was a story that was punching out, that other people were reporting, and the idea that the bbc wouldn't report a story of this kind, i mean, we'd be accused of a lot worse than navel—gazing if that was the case. but i do think more broadly, i hope in this role — you know, my full title is culture and media editor — and, samira, you know, as a presenter on front row how much culture there is out there. i am going to cover the media, of course i am — i'm the media editor and there's a lot of really important stories in the media that need covering — whether that's streaming wars, i don't know, distrust in our institutions, holding these institutions to account — but i think in the end, culture is a very broad brief as well, so i don't think — i hope i'll never be accused of navel—gazing! katie razzall, thank you. thank you. finally, thursd