cliff schecter cliff welcome thanks so much tom how are you great so what's your take is a absolutely pivotal state to the best of my recollection i think it could be correct me if i'm wrong no republican nominee has ever won the white house without winning ohio or at least not last century or so have not and i think you can easily democrat so it's easy to win ohio you know yeah so has a look in there. i mean well i mean as you point out just like they're doing in the nation as a whole and there is they're damaging each other i mean obviously i'm talking specifically about mitt romney and rick santorum they're both been here a lot. tend to form i think only maybe learned a lesson and as much as rick santorum can learn a lesson after turning off so many voters in michigan by talking about j.f.k. speech what made him want to puke which i'm sure made many catholic voters happy and talking constantly birth control and being the sex police so he got more back to economic message with the coverage i've seen here and you know maybe i work from there some very. white working class parts of oh