the bureau chief from the times i got to go margaret through clifton daniel. harry truman idolized his harry truman idolized his wife, loved his family. he bombed 100,000 people was a great family man. >> host: i assume george bush was a nice father family man and a cheney. cheney. >> guest: yes indeed. >> host: how do you deal with that between their personal lives and what they do in the real world? >> guest: to try to tell my students to be professionally angry but personally gentle. one of my close allies at the post was a great reporter and a key with a great reporter. he was the most gentle man and raised three loving children and had a very happy marriage. >> host: it is a beautiful combination of things. >> guest: i can't take another outrage. i had my air the dedication. >> host: another thing i wanted to bring up is the advice that you get to the students that want to live and promote in a more peaceful world. i was a little confused because sometimes it seems that you are getting great congratulations to people that come out into the peace corps or

i got to know his daughter margaret and clifton daniel who was the bureau chief in london survived to know margaret and harry truman idolized his wife and left his family. he bombed 100000 people and families, great family man. >> host: i assume that george bush was a nice father. >> guest: yes indeed. >> host: how do you deal with that keeping people in the personal lives and what they do in the room ex- >> guest: i try to tell my students to be professionally not angry with personally gentle there was a great reporter but he was always seething in the drug industry and general motors and he was a great reporter and would leave the newsroom that he was the most gentle man and raised three loving children and had a very happy marriage. >> host: but you are not even seething -- you are seething when you talk about the issues that you do it in such a gentle way and with a sense of humor. so it is a beautiful combination of things where you still have to fight the fire in the belly. >> host: you can't go around and raged -- i'm sure you do, we all suffer outrage overload. i can't take an