and clifton james, my original drummer, he said, "yeah." he said, "what is this?" just do it." then i'm gonna do this, you know. and we put it together, and i went to chess records with it. at first i went to vee-jay. i went to vee-jay records 'cause i--i didn't even really know that chess existed, and they were two blocks away from my house. i lived on langley avenue in chicago, and they were on cottage grove where the streetcar ran up and down. and i used to go through that alley all the time and break bottles up against the wall and stuff like that, you know. hey, i was a little boy, too, you know. i liked to see a coke bottle splatter, you know. so i did it. and so they asked me-- when i went to vee-jay, they asked me, says, "what kind of music is it?" i said, "i don't know, man. i'm just playing it." "well, we don't-- we-- "we don't like-- we don't know what to do with something like that." so i left. tore my little heart down. i mean, i was like, i was 26 years old, and i said, "hmm. okay, i'll go back home." and i had a little old tape recorder. we used to h