we are going to hear from former fbi profiler, clint van zandt coming up.you live for performance, upgrade to castrol edge advanced synthetic oil. with eight times better wear protection than mobil 1. castrol edge. it's more than just oil. it's liquid engineering. >>> within the half hour, the senate will start up a rare saturday session. we have the dream act, "don't ask, don't tell" maybe the s.t.a.r.t. treaty. another item could be the 9/11 bill that would help emergency workers on that day. joining nous is kristin jill brand from the state of new york. thank you for joining us. let's talk first since you are from new york, that 9/11 bill, your septembermentes on that, where it is going, what the hangups could be and what people are saying about it? >> i think we are going to pass this bill. we will hopefully have a vote between now and christmas. what this bill is about is the men and women who are first responders. the ones who ran up the towers and stayed on that pile to first find survivors and then find remains and then they did the cleanup. when th

clint van zandt former fbi profiler. clint, one officer said four bodies in the same place can't be a coincidence. so, if police are dealing with a serial killer and now their thought because of a mother who said maybe one of those daughters is mine, she's an escort. that has turned out not to be so. where do they go from here? >> yeah, i think the general idea, chris, like the unsolved murder of four women in atlantic city, new jersey, about three or four years ago, they thought perhaps these unaccounted for women may have been prostitutes. that doesn't necessarily there to be the case. as you know from your reporter, the first thing they have to do is identify these four female victims and then they have to find out who and what they had in common to start this case. >> police in new york are also working with officials in atlantic city and i think partly because they thought one of these women might have been this missing escort, four prostitutes there in new jersey were killed back in 2004. so, will they, at this poin

joining me live is fbi profiler clint van zandt. good morning. >> alex, good morning.. >> here in the holiday season as well. police have been searching this long island beach all week long for more bodies. what do you make of police saying they don't expect find anything more? >> it's christmas. while everybody else is engaged in wrapping presents, we know that the bodies of these fourer deceased women were also find wrapped. but in their case wrapped in burlap. it appears that the bodies were dumped in this area area within a few hundred feet of each other over a period of two years. and the police have been up and down about ten-mile area. so their belief right now is that the -- there is no more bodies out there to be found. so, of course, the question is who are these women, what do they have in common, and as important, who do they have in common, who might have placed their bodies there and why. >> with detectives saying they believe these women were killed elsewhere and bodies moved to this location, does that speak to you of a serial killer? what's your gut te

clint van zandt is a former fbi profiler.you. >> hi, chris. >> here what happens the police aren't saying. they aren't showing this video surveillance, they say they have. they're not giving more background on smith's whereabouts, apparently the days before the shooting not releasing even generic background on the tipster who linked smith to the crime. it isn't as if the suspect, who is now dead, is going to go to trial. so why are they being circumspect? you can understand why that makes people suspicious. >> it really does. a lot of things, had the police be up front with, for example, part of the conspiracy the victim was shot, one of the slugs taken out was a 9 millimeter howell point. that comes from a sophisticated semiautomatic weapon. so say she was shot five times, imagine this guy riding a bike, shooting five times through the window and catching this spent shell coming out of the pistol. the reality, we're told now, is that it was a .38 resolver, in essence the empty shells wouldn't have been kicked out. had the po

. >> joining us with more insight is nbc news analyst and former fbi profiler clint van zandt. d morning. it's good to have you on. >> thanks, lester. >> is it possible there's less to this than it seems? and by that, i mean we look at a case like this, we see this ex-con who takes his own life and we start thinking, it's a giant conspiracy. could this be something so random? >> yeah. i think it easily could be, lester. we've got the phrase, show me the money for investigators, and show me the evidence. you and i know how a few years ago, everybody jumped on this story of john mark carr, the guy who was found in thailand who allegedly said he was with young jonbenet ramsey when she died. well that turned out to be nothing but smoke and mirrors. lester, right now, all we have is an ex-con who has a gun, who bragged about shooting her. but we haven't heard the ballistics have been matched. we haven't heard there's any connection between him and the victim. they traveled in two entirely different worlds. and now i'm going to have to see some linking forensic evidence before i reall

and with us now is nbc analyst and former fbi criminal profiler clint van zandt. int, good morning. >> hi, amy, determine. >> i want to start with the statements that the police commissioner's said and it was interesting, because he said, hey, we don't have a jack the ripper out there running around the country with blood dripping from a knife. but actually that is kind of what it seems like. he says this is an anomaly. what do you make of it? >> well, if i was a local citizen, just that comment would scare the heck out of me. when you visualize that. one of the things we have to realize is right now we don't know the cause of death. we know there were four women who died under unknown circumstances, all four bodies were found wrapped in burlap, so it suggests the same person or persons probably dumped the bodies along the way. but, we don't know the cause of death right now. so you know, to suggest a serial killer, that's speculation, but it's the job of the police and the fbi, not to speculate, but to investigate. >> how concerned should the neighboring communiti

clint van zandt is a criminal profiler. >> good morning, chris. >> what are investigators looking foright now to tell them whether or not this is a serial killer. >> one thing they need to do very quickly is identify the victims. you know, new york has seen its share, unfortunately, that area of serial killers. you can go back to 1993 joel rifkin was the individual that terrorized that individual. he killed 17 women and it was just in 2006 that the bodies of four women just like now, four women in that case happened to be prostitutes were found near atlantic city. and that case has never been solved. so, right now police are in a hurry to identify the victims, find out their backgrounds and see what the common strings are and then, chris, they have to find a killer. >> and if it is true that this is a serial killer, if they come to that conclusion, are they right to be worried that this will likely escalate, clint? >> i think they are. normally serial killers don't quit over their own volition. we can find some examples where they have, but most of the time as an fbi profiler, if you

. >> clint van zandt, thank you very much. >> let us swing over to the news desk right now. ann curry standing by with the rest of the headlines of the morning. good morning to you. >> good morning. this morning parts of the northeast are recovering from a storm that brought snow, heavy rain and dangerous winds last night. nbc's ron allen is in new jersey with more on this story. ron, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, ann. if you look behind me you can see a blue tarp on the roof of that house. that's where a tree came crashing into it yesterday. fortunately no one was home at the time. in this region wind gusts were clocked near 60 miles an hour. there was driving rain, a powerful storm that brought a real blast of winter. it's the first major snowfall of the season in western new york state. with this lake-effect snow warning now through friday accumulations from 8 to 16 inches expected. snow is just the latest act of a storm that began by unleashing tornadoes on the southeast earlier this week. more than 50 homes destroyed outside atlanta, georgia. a fast mo