clint van zandt, thank you so much. i want to bring in democratic congressman joe courtney of connecticut now. good afternoon, sir. >> good afternoon, martin. >> i wondered if i could get your immediate reaction to what you've just heard and what we're hearing about this shooting in houston. >> well, as chris said, the velocity of these events, one after another, just since newtown at the end of 2012 really shows that we have a very unstable situation in terms of the gun violence in this country. the president yesterday i think again powerfully mentioned the newtown situation and the need to make sure that we protect children, but we also need to extend that obviously to higher education. what chris said was well-said which is that campuses should be a place where a student like the one on that phone call should be able to go and study english and not worry about having to dive under her desk or, you know, behind corners of the building to avoid getting injured seriously. so, you know, i'm on the education and workforce

. >>> as we wrap up this hour of coverage, i want to quickly bring back former fbi profiler clint van zandtd, clint, we were actually just talking about one of the stats you put out there, the 1,500 i believe you said gun incidents on campus every year. help us put this in perspective. what is the typical profile of those incidents. talk a little bit more about that stat and just how common these types of violent incidents on campus are today. >> well, this is getting to be more and more of a challenge. in that same year, 2011 is our most recent statistics, there were also 16 murders that took place on college campuses outside of the mass shooting-type situations that we see. and i think what we're going to find in this situation that we're looking at today is the number of people who really carry guns on campus that we don't know anything about. the number that either have a gun in their belt or have a gun in their backpack who carry that on and off campus every day and other students, faculty, university police have no idea how many guns are coming and going. with 300 million guns in this