>> all the way to bill clinton, putting the monica lewinsky scandal in historical conquest. the political party throwing dirt at each other, turns out not to be true. >> to be included in this book, over the course of nation's history. >> we were asked to show, what we consider personal and important in the grand scheme of the political story. >> we talk about a couple of them. american society which are loosely translated as grow up. can i tell you what you are going to say about the way few sex scandals and politicians? >> i have been in the -- a huge effect on our live and we use this to communicate -- and recommendation to our own age. a much different reaction than we do. we have a very knee-jerk reaction. and politicians have a message -- and don't mean to sound facetious but it is true. and -- career as are destroyed, i don't think fat will happen. it is very dangerous. it would indicate the president was good or bad because he had an active libido or not. to fight two wars and be able to sleep with everyone to. >> in the last 20 years or so would it be fair to say th

flint to normalize deviance of bill clinton. that had nothing to do with sex but the chief law-enforcement engaging and perjury and obstruction of justice. evidence of this that clinton was the first president to lose his law license because of his perjury and obstruction of justice. this is a way of larry flint to normalise himself. >> i don't think that is accurate. we were telling the important story and the case of bill clinton in which case this national tryout and saga over sex captivated the public mind and distracted us from serious threats to america one of which was not tied up. of the 9/11 commission recordrosto led commissioners say the monica lewinsky scandal distracted the administration and kept us from doing what we should have been doing to protect the american public. p >> guest: you will never convinceub everyone about bill clinton and they will have pros and cons why he was a great president or why he was a tv and. people will argue that for centuries to come. >> were there any political any all sexual escapa

clinton? well, my wife and i encountered mrs. clinton once about a year after impeachment. that's a story for a different book. president clinton and i actually after both of us left washington for a period of a few years, had a very private but very cordial correspondence. he said i hear you write back and forth. i said true. i'd like to see the notes. somebody in president clinton's complain said he would never write to him. i think it must have embarrassed -- i think somebody got embarrassed that he and i were corresponding. there was a period where two old warriors were at least in touch. i asked newt gingrich about that once. he said he'll call me sometimes at 2:00 in the morning and want to talk about old times. i think he's like me, he missed the war. i don't know if that's true. president clinton, if you are listening. feel free to write, i will answer. it'd be nice to hear from you. i hope you didn't hate the book too much. >> i want to ask a question. you've been in the legislative branch, you've been in the executive branch, you've been in judiciary with your new

>> i love this coming from bill clinton. bill clinton in 1995 -- let's roll the tape -- newt gingrich actually succeeded in reducing medicare. what this bill clinton do? he demagogued medicare. look at the ads and they ran, it was all about throwing granny in the snout. it worked. what did he do? nothing. he did not lift a finger -- >> obama has clearly made the same decision that clinton did in 1995. he did not speak about entitlements on the budget, which, incidentally, went to a vote in the senate and was defeated 97-0 this week. he is completely running on the following that -- americans are against it and get in the abstract, but if you touch anything in entitlements, you will lose. between now and election day, democrats will do absolutely nothing of entitlements except demagogue it. >> mark? >> let me dissent from my two colleagues. first of all, this is a republican fiasco this is not scripture, paul ryan's -- it is a political solution offered, terribly, terribly un. not only is that slot, but it will provide 1/3 of

clinton's interview. >> well, hillary clinton's comments were in fact made about a month ago but theyere published today in the "atlantic monthly" and she seems to suggest very strongly china may be trying to put an end to clamp down on human rights activists, authors even and said that's not sustainable. she said china's attempt to stop the course of history was a fool's air and. it is an interesting comment and must have cause someday tension in the high-level talks that chinese and american officials were having in washington but this administration now seems to have decided that the issue of human rights is one that needs to be discussed in the open, and that is in stark contrast to how they approached the issue of china's human rights at the very beginning of the administration where their criticism was more muted and something they raised more in private and mostly an issue that they tried to work on by not necessarily talking to the chinese government but talking to human rights organizations and n.g.o.'s on the ground. >> on the talks between the u.s. and china covered a wide

of the information on the internet is factually correct that's an idea that former president bill clinton wants to make a reality by setting up a government agency to do it we'll see if this might be his worst idea to date that the supreme court made a surprising ruling the police can ensure your home without a warrant if they smell marijuana and if they hear of you destroying that evidence so should we be concerned high justice is now given that kind of power to local law enforcement and more importantly is this the end of the fourth amendment as we know it then it us manufacturing is it just a thing of the past we'll take a look at how the era of american industry is dying and will determine what it will take to bring it back all those stories plus happy hour on tonight's show but first let's move on to our top story. now if you thought that relations between the u.s. and pakistan could only move up after the osama bin laden raid and think again there's a day after senator john kerry made a trip to islam about to mend ties and negotiated for the tale of the stealth copter to be. back to

we're awaiting a statement from secretary of state hillary clinton. we expect to hear from her any moment. to get back, around 9:45 last night, white house officials began to move to members of congress that bin laden was killed starting with house speaker john boehner. >> with us now, david gregory, moderator of "meet the press." one of the reason this didn't leak members of congress weren't told until after the fact. >> that's right. chuck, it to bring more perspective from some of my reporting this morning talking to bush national security officials on key questions being raised. particularly for pakistan and bin laden's whereabouts. the presumption was that he was in what's called the fatah, the tribal area that border area between pakistan and afghanistan. there was some speculation bin laden was flushed out of that area because of how closely he was being tracked going back for years. and in a way that was not just continuity with the bush administration but ramped up by the obama administration with drone attacks and special operations going in

anyway, apparently president clinton saw the documentary and saw the poster. that's supposed to be me here with the long nose. they said, hey, i have a long nose. invite that dude to the white house. so, wow, i got invited in 1996 to the white house. damn. hey, born in l.a., don't steal nothing. [laughter] so i see president, i see president kennedy, he could have been a tight end for the university of arkansas. he came in with a great big smeal, and i didn't see monica lewinsky anywhere, but he had a smile on his face. [laughter] so, you know, i had to tell him, and this is the serious part. we're getting down to what hector asked me. i had to tell him in 1996, my president. i thought i was a -- [speaking spanish] i guess. but, you know, my president, we have the dubious distinction of leading the nation in high school dropouts, college dropouts and teen pregnancies. you know, if today, 2011, president obama would invite me to the white house, i would have to tell him exactly the same thing, the same litany, you know? and proof of that, okay, it's time. i've

one of them turned out to be bill clinton. >> look what happened this week.y had an excellent rollout. he had a very good video, a good message. he's sharpened his message, linked his biography to what the country needs. excellent rollout. huntsman went up to new hampshire had a pretty good time up there. romney's had problems, but he raised a lot of money. he's still mitt romney. i think it will be one of those things. >> let me show the bulletin board which we keep updating on who's in, who's out, where people stand. you can see those who are out. romney makes it official on thursday, topping those among who are in. what is interesting is those still officially on the sidelines -- huntsman, palin, of course, and bachmann. and rick perry, who made some noise about getting in, texas governor. >> i agree that one of the dwarfs or one of the non dwarfs will become the nominee, and probably somebody already on that bulletin board. but i think one of the effects that palin has is to suck up the energy. we didn't start out this segment talking about tim pawlenty,

clinton urged them to renew security interests or risk losing billions in aid from washington. meantime the cia searched bin laden's compound today for the first time. >>> congress and president obama extended portions of the patriot act set to expire last night at midnight. president obama who is in france used an auto pen to sign the four-year extension which gives the government broad powers to spy on terror suspects. >>> an air traffic controller and a pilot are hailed as heroes for a dramatic mid-air save over colorado. a private pilot became incapacitated forcing his wife to fly the plane. tom costello has more. tom? >> reporter: ann, good morning. the plane is not pressurized so

bush to president clinton george w. bush and now the obama administration said we believe the borders of israel and palestine should be based on the nine hundred sixty seven lines with mutually agreed swaps. so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states an unusually blunt endorsement of an end to israeli occupation of arab land by u.s. president the idea was immediately rejected by five minister benjamin netanyahu israel argues peace cannot come at the cost of its security and continued palestinian rocket attacks but there is one thing both sides actually agree on when it comes to the u.s. role as mediator it approaches a fact is all wrong american policy is built on this conceptions a wrong view of the causes of the conflict and a prescription that doesn't stand up to even the most casual scrutiny of the question is not right i don't we have a solution at this point but why on earth should we expect to have a solution with with this system as it is their use of money you are with the jerusalem p

that's what secretary clinton told us. clinton wanted to clear up. think that both sides were a little shaken up by the incident of the 1st of may and 2nd of may when osama bin laden was eliminated. americans are worried why was any pakistan and at the same time pakistanis are a little upset why did the u.s. decide to go it alone? we need to work out a plan in which both sides can work together. pakistan has no interest in promoting our accepting terrorism because we are victims of terrorism ourselves. >> have you heard anything from secretary of state hillary clinton from her trip that has eased the concern that you talk about, the alarm that you talk about, that it was done without pakistan's prior approval? >> i think that pakistan and the united states are working right now on creating a you this -- creating new terms of engagement in which we can work cooperatively. when the secretary of state says that there are expectations from pakistan, we fully understand that. at the same time we want the secretary of state and

space shuttle astronauts. >>> new this hour, hillary clinton says u.s.are at a turning point. alison burns reports from our washington, d.c. newsroom, secretary clinton is in islamabad for the first time since u.s. forces killed osama bin laden. alison. >> reporter: that's right, we brought in new video by satellite in the last hour of secretary of state hillary clinton sitting down with top pakistani officials. she is with joint chiefs chairman, admiral mike mullen. they are urging pakistani leaders to show a renewed commitment to u.s. interests and focus on eradicating safe havens for militants. they're warning billions of dollars in u.s. aide is at stake. here is how secretary clinton described the talks. >> admiral mullen and i have have just completed a very extensive, open, frank and constructive discussion with the leadership of pakistan. >> now, secretary clinton is also warning pakistanis against fostering conspiracy theories against the united states. vial more on that for you in about an hour. for now live in washington, d.c., alison burns, kt

members of congress have written to clinton demanding an explanation of u.s. policy towards americans who run hired gun operations i'm talking of course about mercenary forces all of this in light of blackwater founder erik prince is the latest exploits in the united arab emirates there's a lot to talk about here and for more i'm joined by jeremy scahill he's a national security correspondent for the nation magazine he's also the author of this book here blackwater the rise of the world's most powerful mercenary army journey it's great to have you back on the program thank you so much for being with us and before we get to the real news with the an implacable outer quick reaction to netanyahu speech today i mistakenly thought i was watching a twenty eight twelve nomination party before i realized as just his address to congress right i mean he had at least thirty or forty standing ovations depending on who you ask for warmer reception than president obama has received certainly from the republicans but you could argue also from the democrats it seems as we ent

how important do you think remarks are that have just been made by hillary clinton, the u.s. secretary of state, in which she said that pakistan is an important partner in helping us to put unprecedented pressure on the al qaeda leadership? >> she is right, and that is the point. the two countries need each other. you can't solve the problems in afghanistan unless you have pakistan on board. pakistan has become so reliant on america for financial aid, for their civilian project, and in terms of military aid. so they both still need each other am but there is so much mistrust. this whole episode has exposed it to an extraordinary degree that a lot of people very feel uneasy about the future in terms of that relationship and also in terms of their futures when it comes to militancy. of course, the death of osama bin laden doesn't bring an end to the problem of militancy. there are still thousands, maybe tens of thousands of militants inspired by him still in this country. >> aleem, thanks very much indeed. aleem maqbool was in abbottabad. there are reports that a convoy of 40 m

but at the same time, bill clinton is right.o just batter the republicans on what was a very stupid and extreme plan by paul ryan. they have to provide something positive, and they also have to really start to address the economy. >> gloria borger and joe kleine there. one thing to watch as this debate plays out, mitch mcconnell noted today they're in negotiations with vice president biden trying to strike a long-term deal to bring down deficits and debt. mcconnell saying medicare would not be as big an issue in the 2012 campaigns if there is a bipartisan agreement struck between republicans, democrat, and the obama white house that included some significant reductions in medicare. that is way the republicans hope to alleviate some of the political price they're paying at the very moment. >>> still ahead for us tonight, some devastating images from our time this week in joplin, missouri. ♪ [ male announcer ] in 2011, at&t is at work, building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing n

hillary clinton expects a frank exchange of views after the killing of osama bin laden. the former head of children's surfaces and london burrow who was sacked following the death of baby peter won her appeal for unfair dismissal. however, the government plans to appeal. here's social affairs correspondent allison holt. >> sharon shoe-smith, then the director of children's services in north london, has always claimed she was made a scapegoat. today the court of appeal ruled when she was sacked, she didn't get a fair hearing. >> my sorrow at the death of peter connelly while i was director is something which will stay with me for the rest of my life. but as the judges said making a public sacrifice of an individual would not prevent further tragedies. >> peter connelly was being monitored by several workers from the department. after three people were convicted of causing his death, the minister in charge ordered an inspection of hairingey children's services. >> overall the findings were devastating. >> sharon was removed from her post. she didn't see the findings or hav

secretary clinton will be the head of the high-level policy dialogue and she will also be delivering a keynote address to the entire community. she is, as we speak, reaching out to her counterparts in the economies around the asia- pacific community, as well as counterparts within the u.s. cabinet to attend the event. as an outstanding example of our public-private sector partnership, the private sector has been intricately involved in putting together the summit. so we really want to thank cal apec, the host committee put together, and especially the bay area council, under the leadership of jim, who will speak in a minute. they have been and it indelible partner in the planning -- they have been an invaluable part in the planning of this event. as the u.s. private sector brings together commitments to the economic empowerment of women throughout the apec region. a steering committee, specifically for women and the economy summit, has been formed, two of the founding companies are here. devry and mervell technologies. women play a powerful role in the global economy and within the a

secretary of state hillary clinton is in pakistan this morning. the surprise visit, unannounced for security purposes. the secretary arrived with two objectives, to mend political fences while also delivering a get-tough message. tara mergener has the latest from washington now. tara, good morning to you. >> good morning to you, terrell. relations are badly strained with pakistan, after last month's raid on the bin laden compound. but the u.s. is trying to smooth things over. before she arrived, clinton emphasized the close ties between the two nations. >> i believe strongly it is in our national security interests to have a comprehensive long-term partnership with the government and people of pakistan. >> reporter: there are still considerable distrusts on both sides. pakistani officials are angry they were not in the loop the night of the bin laden raid. and u.s. officials continue to suspect that somebody inside pakistan helped to hide the al qaeda mastermind. pakistan will allow a cia evidence team back in to the compound to search for anythin

secretary of state hillary clinton said the relationship between her country and pakistan has reached a turning point. mrs. clinton was speaking during a visit to islamabad, her first since relations with pakistan deteriorated sharply in the wake of the killing by u.s. forces of osama bin laden. we report from islamabad. >> the americans knew killing osama bin laden without first informing the pakistanis had its risks. it did leave the leadership here feeling humiliated and angry. >> good afternoon. >> hillary clinton assured them they weren't,ing cornered. >> there is absolutely no evidence that anyone at the highest levels of the pakistani government knew that osama bin laden was living just miles from where we are today. and we know that al qaeda has been a source of great pain and suffering to the leadership that has been in every way attempting to eradicate the threat that's posed. >> secretary clinton said the cia's been allowed access to bin laden's compound and behind the scenes she would have asked for much more. there are many in washington who want her to be even tougher. b

secretary of state hillary clinton is about ready to make a formal address about the killing of osama bin laden. and we're waiting for that. of course secretary of state is in charge of foreign affairs advising the president on foreign policies. and this news certainly affecting around the world -- people around the world, governments around the world. we have seen reaction from around the world. so right now we're looking live at washington d.c. right now where we are again waiting for secretary of state hillary clinton to come out and make a formal address. >> well, the implications are so widespread because u.s. policies, security changes that are happening at airports. we heard bart here in the bay area increasing security. and also relations with the united states will have with its allies as well as potential enemies are being effected by what secretary clinton will be saying on behalf of the united states. >> right. this could certainly make her job even bigger because, again, as you mentioned warning around the world for american travelers, americans abroad and that will certa

clinton says the u.s.aintains very strong support for the relationship with pakistan, but clinton and mullen showed pakistan it must show renewed commitment to eradicate safe-haven for militants or usa aid to pakistan could dwindle. >>> the republican presidential field are filling out. mitt romney and michele bachmann are expected to announce their plans next week. and as john hendren reports there are signs of a run from a former governor of alaska. >> sarah palin shows the signs of a second coming. a bus. don't call it a campaign bus. there is the house. newly bought $1.7 million estate in arizona, which just happens to be more accessible for a candidate than alaska. there is the upcoming movie. >> not a single drop of oil. >> then there is this -- >> the fire in the belly, it's there! >> republican voters seem to want new candidates. polls show nearly half are unhappy with the current 2012 field. abc7 news learned this week michele bachmann and mitt romney will announce they're in and join a field that

whether it's bush monkey picture, reagan this, clinton this, whatever. the birthers are out there on the fringes. the one thing i'm happy about, if you want to call it -- >> you don't question the president's citizenship? >> i don't. the extreme elements are off the table. the one good thing about donald trump did, it brought it out and it's been shown and now we can get back to the policies is. as far as the extreme elements, i have a hard time calling people racist and throwing that word around easily, unless they're specific action tells me they're a racist. i -- >> that's a problem i have with -- not just the white/black dynamic. but with any dynamic. >> i think it was pat enltly offensive, it was absurd, ridiculous. clearly it was established long ago he's a citizen. and it smacks of racism because it's consistent with this idea that we're always being questioned, right? the legitimacy, the skill, along with it were these attacks often his academic record that were completely unfounded. >> his transcripts? >> they want these transcripts, and the dyn

clinton since she was the first lady of arkansas.caller: she has a good but not -- guest: she has a good, but not great relationship with president obama. they attacked each other fiercely during the 2008 campaign. she described him as "twisting her arms or legs," late 2008, to convince her to be secretary of state, but it was a very smart move by barack obama. by all accounts, she has succeeded in the job. she has a good relationship with the white house. she has never quite connected with the president on a personal level, but there are not a lot of people who feel that they are close to him. that is to be expected. they have a working relationship that is productive for the united states. he is very happy with the appointments that he made. she is generally in her element, although fatigued. shis beautiful, -- she is a dutiful, responsible, smart, and effective secretary of state. we do not know yet if she is going to be a great secretary of state. part of that will depend on whether she can help to turn the ripples that are emerg

what did you learn from a guy like george clinton? >> towards clinton actually extended everything i thought in the first place. dodge george -- george clinton actually extended everything i thought. there are no walls behind the sky. he gave me a belief in myself that i needed. as a young man, coming up without a father and a home, he gave me the freedom to experiment with myself, experiment with my music. like, right there, he kind of said go ahead and do it. if you wanted to it, go ahead and do it. he opened up the door for me and let me do it. he trusted me. anyone that trusted you back in the day with their worth, we called our drugs our works. anyone who trust you with that, trust you with their life. tavis: how did you survive? drugs took out some repeople. you had your own issues. you are still here and putting it up. you were still doing this thing and you survived. >> basically, all my mama's prayers, all of my fans, they were praying for me and open that i uphold through. -- and hoping that i pulled through. also hoping tha

and i was talking to bill clinton yesterday -- let me finish. i was talking to bill clinton, we were on a phone and he was at 125th street his office on the 15th floor looking south. he said, mike, you have been talking about painting roofs white. i can't believe it. i just really noticed almost all of the roofs in new york city that he could see from his office were painted white. if you have a five-story building, paint your roof white so it reflects off the sun. you reduce your energy in that building by 20%. if you go in the stores, the public is buying fluorescent light bulbs. >> at the same time you have republican leaders in the country, the three prominent republican leaders running for the president is si of the united states running away as fast as they can from their previous supports cap and trade? >> well, that may very well be. cap and trade, i would run away from it, too. we need an energy tax. the abuses make it so inefficient. if that's the best we can do, i suppose we should do it. the bottom line is there will be a day when al

but behind the scenes, this was a very sobering visit for secretary clinton.alks were supposed to be very tough in terms of things the u.s. is looking for pakistan to do. relations are at their lowest point because of this raid on osama bin laden's compound. not just because bin laden was hiding in plain sight in the pakistani military, but also because the u.s. went ahead with the raid without talking to the pakistanis about it. so there's a lot of mistrust on both sides. for her part, secretary clinton giving a very tough message in terms of what the u.s. is looking for. action against al qaeda operatives joint operations, going against those factories that produce ieds that are used against u.s. troops in afghanistan and also support for taliban reconciliation with the afghan government. this is seen as key to bringing u.s. troops home, zain. so a lot that the u.s. needs pakistan to do and as tense as the relationship is, both clinton and mullen saying that the relationship is too important to abandon. >> senior u.s. state department producer elise labott t

response so far i mean we saw hillary clinton expressing deep disappointment and sol as if it was some sort of a child and not a dictator or essentially a client of the united states they support it for years and do you think they're actually serious about backing up their calls for him to go well i mean even even as you and i are speaking right now about hillary clinton's reaction or the white house's reaction the fact is that there are scores of u.s. special operations forces that are inside yemen right now training ali abdullah saleh is counterterrorism units the fact is that for more than a decade now the u.s. approach to yemen has been almost exclusively through the lens of who the yemenis allow is to kill inside their country just a few days after the raid on osama bin laden's compound in pakistan the u.s. attempt to kill an american citizen named anwar locky who's been in yemen for some time he's an american born cleric who is now living in yemen it's families. and so what we're seeing now with the chaos that is spreading throughout the capital of yemen is in part a failed u.s.

administration is obsessing on this you know and berger implied that the that the clinton ministration had actually been negotiating with afghanistan to take possession of bin laden particularly after the time when he tried to kill him with the with the cruise missiles in there and and newt gingrich were on the floor of the house and said he's just trying to deflect attention from monica lewinsky this is right the dog and then afterwards of course and he went off to work it up with his girlfriend though we don't know we know that this was a serious offer that in fact i interviewed the former taliban foreign minister to work kill him in kabul last year for the first time he laid out exactly what their proposal was it was reported in vague terms in the press at the time so the russian pows were similar firms and he finally confirmed to me last year so and this was specific to the bush administration did that go back to the clinton was this was this was a new proposal that had a new second of the second proposal and it was clearly very urgent on their part to try to make a deal because of

>> secretary clinton, i appreciate the opportunity. for the chinese side, its government has always stated it is sticking to a policy and will continue to stick to a policy of a peaceful development. as we all know, the real purpose of this dialogue for the purpose of any dialogue, is to enhance mutual understanding and mutual trust. when this round of dialogue concluded today, could we say that the u.s. side now has a better understanding and better recognition of the chinese the strategic intent? thank you. >> thank you for the question. i agree with you that the purpose of that dialogue is to enhance mutual understanding and mutual trust in the other. i think we have made quite a bit of progress in the last three dialogues. this is a work in progress. for both of our nation's with such different histories, cultures, experiences, development models, political systems, it is important that we continue intensive consultation. as both of us have said, we do not expect to find agreement on every issue. we know that we approach some of th

you heard secretary clinton mention it there.feeling right across the country. many people here simply blame the united states for all of their problems. they say the u.s. is bringing more terror attacks, as the militants retaliate, back onto civilian pakistanis. secretary clinton also acknowledged that and said, yes, there is a real sacrifice among pakistanis, but said this relationship is strategically important and what they really need to do in the interests of both countries is to get it back on track, but she wants to see action rather than words, carol. >> stan grant, live in islamabad, pakistan. many thanks. >>> herman cane is fast becoming a republican party favorite. the radio show host and former ceo of godfather's pizza is running for president. he's tied for third among the list of gop candidates or potential candidates and can't have anywhere near their name recognition. plus guallup said respondents liked cain the most. earlier i asked him if he's qualified to be president. >> you've never held elective office, don

but then came the clintons. and things with the clintons started out on kind of a strange floating. a magazine concocted what became known as the great cookie controversy. some of you i can see nodding your head's. you remember this. the question of who baked the bread chocolate chip cookies? was a barbara bush or was it hillary clinton. and hillary clinton sort of dismissed this and said, i'm too busy to bake cookies, your, let's forget about this. and mrs. bush said she thought the whole thing was forgotten. and then a few months later the same magazine ran a story saying that any taste test people like hillary clinton's cookies better. and barbara bush said well, that's interesting because that's not my recipe. well, i mention it because even though it seems like a silly thing perhaps, it garnered all of a sudden very serious comments from reporters and columnists. and this also gave mrs. bush a certain amount of growing disease with what she saw developing here. she gave a very much heralded speech at the republican national convention. she talked about her husband as the most d

and i would imagine that it would appeal to her sense of possibility that hillary clinton having run against the sun is now working closely with him. i would be surprised if she -- and i know that she actually likes -- i'm told that she liked bill clinton. >> host: interesting. we have about seven minutes to go. i bring up to projects that you worked on the new york times. i'm not going to ask you to distill this story into the prism of class and race in america in seven minutes. that would be unfair. but if you could give a brief distillation, if it's possible, of how class and race, if at all, factor into this story did you have been working on for so long. >> guest: that is an excellent question. it is complicated, and i would like to have thought it out better than i have in order to give you a good answer, but the class project was an attempt so look at the way -- i'm sorry, the race project, like the way that race played out in relationships, not personal relationships, but working relationships, all sorts of situations in the united states where people were working across raci

guest: your previous peace was about hillary clinton. this came from a hillary clinton speech. unless the taliban renounced violence and broke a al-qaeda has said they would agree to a constitution under which women would have far more rise, unless that would happen, the u.s. would not affect those talks. now, hillary clinton says those could be the out talks -- outcome of the talks instead of the requirement. we need to figure out some way to get to something approaching stability so we can withdraw as quickly as we can. host: the taliban and cut our links together but there are some distinct differences. guest: there are, a lot of that blanket was personal. there were two men of roughly the same as that fought against the soviets together. ullah was trying to fund the taliban and obama bin laden help 10. him. it was almost like a crime family marrying another crime family. if that analysis is correct, with osama bin laden dead, the taliban will not be as committed to al-qaeda as they once were. our guest covers national security issues for the washington journal. caller: why

>> host: let me ask about hillary clinton. i remember when i covered the clinton white house hillary was one of the exponents of micro financing and microcredit as a tool for the global over and i wonder if you have any sense of what she would have thought about hillary clinton as a political figure in america and as an american woman, as a mother, and maybe the irony of this woman on the assume you might suspect she would have admired for a number of reasons came to be a political opponent of her son and then a significant member of the presidential cabinet. that's kind of an amazing thing to think about. >> guest: it is amazing, you're right. there was a moment of intersection between the two of them in the early 90's she worked in new york at and ngo called women's world banking which was a network of microfinance organizations around the world largely in developing countries and they provided a lot of technical level fisa and robinette work together and so she was working as of policy and research director for the world ba

that has been negotiations going back to the clinton administration. to have it said so publicly appears to have pressed a nerve. i spoke with the president's deputy dennis mcdonough and asked about this extraordinary statement that prime minister netanyahu expects president obama to back away from what the president said just today in his speech. >> john, the president looks very much forward to the meeting with prime minister netanyahu. it will be the seventh meeting and opportunity to discuss this matter and our ongoing cooperation with the israelis across a range of issues, to include our effort, historic, to fight back against efforts and also working together against our shared concern about iran's nuclear program. >> it's a very diplomatic statement. forgive me for interrupting. this is one of the most sensitive relationships for the president of the united states. within moments of the president's speech, for the prime minister to say, no the central thing you outlined is unacceptable, it speaks volume yous, didn't it? >> i didn't hear you read

with us now is spokesperson clinton johnson with some better news.linton, let's talk right now about the current conditions in the bart system. >>: trains right now are moving . how everyone trying to get out of downtown san francisco or into downtown 7 cisco, you are looking of delays of about 10 minutes for most passengers. patrons on the train when the person fell onto the tracks probably experienced about a 20 minute delay. here we are trying to get all the trains in all directions back on >>: schedule> linton johnson saying they have resolved the medical emergency, the person is no longer on the track with. the proper part did occur at the powell street station. trains were being turned back for the east bay for about 20 minutes. when i spoke with clinton before this conversation he said it should take about 20 minutes-a half an hour for this to completely patrons will only experience 10-20 minute delays, and another 20 minutes, we should have no more delays. if you are trying to get to sfo you may want to the about leaving earlier than usual or

democrat, bill clinton. >> paul ryan. >> how are you? >> reporter: he even got some surprising words of encouragement. >> i told them before you got here, i said, i'm glad we won this race in new york. but i hope the democrats don't use it as an excuse to do nothing. >> reporter: ryan's plan would reduce medicare's costs by eventually replacing the current system with one where seniors would buy government subsidized private insurance. riding through washington today, ryan told us republicans need to fight for his plan. what do you say to these, maybe weak-kneed republicans -- >> this is not the time to go wobbly. they're going to run the attack ads at us regardless. this is a time for leaders to be leaders. >> reporter: house republicans overwhelmingly voted in favor of ryan's plan and now may pay a political price. did you just cost the republicans control of the house? >> i don't think so. i think we were elected in this last election to take a stand on fixing this country's fiscal problems. to go after spending, to solve this debt cr

secretary of state, hillary clinton, in pakistan today.lamabad attempting to try to repair the rift that happened after the raid on osama ben lin laden's compound. dominique strauss-kahn was caught by police having sex in a car by the police. allies of nicolas sarkozy tried to leak that to the media in the months before his current arrest. >>> the first list of the missing now shows 232 people still unaccounted for following last weekend's deadly tornado. state officials say that some of those on the list may actually be among the dead. they are trying to speed up the process of identifying remains. >>> cia is hoping to uncover more of osama bin laden terror files. they are allowing a team of forensic specialists to search his compound and combing the home with highly specialized equipment that the s.e.a.l. team wasn't able to grab when they first went in. chris lawrence comes in live. we heard they had the big cash of stuff they took the first time around. what are they looking for now? >> you have to think of this as a csi investigation

bush and former president clinton were invited to attend today as a part of that spirit of unity that the president is trying to create. however, both of them were unable to come because of scheduling conflicts. >> savannah, you broke the news yesterday that president -- the president had decided not to release those bloody, gruesome pictures. based on your reporting, how much debate was there within the administration over the release? >> it does sound like the majority of those senior officials who talked to the president about this sided with him. and it sounds like his opinion on this was formed rather early on. that given the graphic nature of the photos. also given the fact that in the white house's own monitoring of reaction in the arab world, there did not seem to be broad skepticism. there seemed to be mostly acceptance that, indeerksd osama bin laden had been killed. the president was clearly worried about having these very graphic photos out there, then used to inflame more hatred, perhaps retaliation or become some kind of photographic shrine that radicals could cling to.

he said the bill clinton in the 1990s would have thought differently. the reality is that both have used the mediscare tactics. it is sad but true, it is not looking like it is going to change. >> so is the issue dead in the water? why are we bothering to talk about it anymore? >> reporter: it is not necessarily dead in the water. even though all of these politics are going on, there are discussions that are happening. the vice president has meetings going on with republicans and democrats. they are broad discussions on how to reduce the deficit. they haven't gotten to the entitlement issue yet. they could possibly get to it. you know what? it is actually going to be pretty hard. republicans realize, carol, that they really bungled this message. the democrats so far have not released anything close to what paul ryan has in terms of the details as an alternative to that. the president has said that he wants to have some savings in medicare but harry reid, the senate majority leader yesterday said, it was hard to get him to answer a question on it. he als

secretary of state hillary clinton visiting pakistan this morning. it is the highest level effort yet to improve relations with pakistan since the raid to kill osama bin laden. >> clinton is making the trip with admiral mike mullen. while they are there to smooth things out with the pakistanis, they are also making some demands. >> both are pushing for more cooperation in fighting terrorism. and they're passing along a message. that if more help does not happen, it could affect the billions of dollars of u.s. support that pakistan receives every year. one sign of cooperation in all of this, pakistan is allowing the cia into bin laden's compound for the first time. when agents are there, they will be seeking any intelligence materials that may still there. among the tools are high-tech imaging equipment that can recover damaged or even burned documents. >>> for the first time ever, president obama used the auto pen to extend important parts of the patriot act. mr. obama is at the g-8 summit in france. so, he used the signing technology to beat a midni