the clintons go for it. the clintons are furious. the clintons are offended.hillary was said to be crying when she hears about this. that's what the aide to sadr told me. so david shuster doesn't think much of it. he doesn't think it such a bad thing and eventually gets called in to talk to the suits at msnbc about the conduct because they're hearing complaints about it. so we decided to apologize. goes on tv and apologizes. that apparently is not enough to satisfy the clintons. they are still upset that he was on tv. he tries to convince the suits at msnbc that hillary clinton is just using this, using him in his head, his example as a way to put her campaign and to show that she is a victim. because there's various polling throughout hillary clinton's history that when she is a victim she does well. monica lewinsky, great for her poll numbers. that sort of thing. so shuster is trying to make this argument at msnbc. they are not doing anything about it. hillary clinton meanwhile, is threatening to cancel the debate at msnbc that the democratic debate that the

clinton inc. and part of clinton inc. being hillary clinton's 2016 campaign.how do these two relate? at one point you're talking about, for example, chelsea clinton as a campaign manager, the royal child. >> guest: right. >> host: so she is not at the point where she could run a presidential campaign being trusted with that traffic look, i tried to describe like this. you have a family business. we know a family businesses tend to work. attended in charge by the family and everybody else is auxiliary. clinton inc. is very much a family business. easier in the family, you are not only is your place secure for life but you're always there and you're always in charge. when a daughter or a son comes into a family business, they are allowed usually and certainly in this case to tell aids or staff members how to work, how the work should be done. this is what's going on. she comes in. because of her own ambitions and own reasons she is a disruptive force in clinton inc. and that's something that they're trying to contend with because, i become its complex but basica

hillary clinton loves and adores bill clinton.she thinks the world of him and bill clinton loves and adores bill clinton and he thinks the world of him. that's how he described it and i think that's how the relationship pretty much works. >> host: so you are the editor of on line and weekly standard. and so the question would be as part of conservative media in america, people looking out the book, do you think there is a case built here by daniel help bring? >> guest: that's not the case i'm making. i don't know whether after reading this book someone might decide there's no way they would vote for hillary clinton. people are smart enough to make their own decisions as to who they should vote for and i don't want to go around asking people who they would vote for. my contention is this is an amazing story from ashes to where they are today and that's what i'm trying to tell. this amazing story. people will conclude what they want to conclude. i can't control that by what i can control is a story i've told. >> host: but is not the

hillary clinton loves and adores bill clinton. she thinks the world of him and bill clinton loves bill clinton and thinks the world of him and that's how he described it. [laughter] and i think that's probably how that relationship pretty much worked. >> host: so you are the editor of the online weekly standard. and so, the question would be as part of the conservative media in america and people looking at the book do you think that there is a case built here by daniel halper? use that it doesn't disqualify her but -- >> guest: that isn't the case i'm making. i don't know whether after reading this book somebody might decide that there is no way that they could eve never vote for hillary clinton. or i don't know the opposite. people are sort of smart enough to know who they should vote for and i don't want to go around telling people who to vote for my contention is this is an amazing story to where they are today and that is what i'm trying to tell is this amazing story. so it's not, you know people will conclude what they want

clinton. meanwhile hillary is in the senate after this time after leaving the white house and hillary is incredibly nice to people like john mccain and lindsey graham and staunch republicans. it's softened their image and hillary clinton's image and i think that is the key to this understanding of how they came back as the republican part of this. so when i'm speaking to them they are only saying nice things even if we are not going to credit to these peopl these peog nasty things about the clintons they have warm feelings and i think it is a credit to the human interaction and the understanding of human nature that humans in a way are complex and can be won over rather easily when a powerful man like bill clinton gives you a compliment you would give him more favorability than you did before hand and so 15 years of doing this has paid off and i would also argue as i did in the book that in 2008, the comeback had been so sufficient with the conservatives and republicans that the problem was ne

and what did bill clinton do?on, rather than dig is and say well, i'm just going to do what i want to do lated irrespective of the congress, he triangulated, as they call it. he found common ground with thee remember h congress to do many very important things that we've already mentioned. balance the budget, reform welfare. send 100,000 new police officers on to the streets of american oc cities and on and on and on. not so there was a political calculation on bill clinton's part that he could work we have been a dug-in opposition. this has not happened during the obama administration.unicatio there is virtually no ng communication and the republicans. i was talking to vernon jordan e who has been a major figure the democratic party and he said yea the republicans have made it difficult but when you're elected president you're expected to lead and this leader has been missing. >> and you wrote that vernon jordan is a relative of valerie jarrett? >> his wife is a relative. >> gotcha. ray from massachusetts, indepe

they look down upon the clintons as opportunists, orbit, the clintons -- on the other hand, the clintons, for their part, look on the obama team, as a bunch of amateurs, inexperienced people who seem to fumble all the great issues of our time becauses they don't know how to govern. so there's many reason why they don't get along. >> host: here's betty on the democratic line. >> caller: c-span, you're getting to be like fox news. always negative stuff, and this guy here, he can't even say president obama so you know where he is coming from. and the -- it's ridiculous. every time -- you need to have more black people on speaking on different things. every time i watch -- i watch c-span every day because i'm 75 years old and i have time to watch this stuff, and it's ridiculous. >> host: so, caller, you're directing a lot of things. why don't you directu<%áa%% a n or comment to our guest. >> caller: i'm talking to him directly. we just got through talking about the supreme court. now he coming out with more negative stuff. it's ridiculous. i feel sorry for my grandkids and great-grandkids a

and what did bill clinton do? bill clinton, rather than dig in and say, well, i'm just going to do what i want to do, irrespective of the congress, he triangulated, as they call it. he found common ground with the republican congress to do many very important things that we've already mentioned. balanced the budget, reform welfa welfare, send 100,000 new police officers on to the streets of american cities and on and on and on. so there was a political calculation on bill clinton's part that he could work even with a dug in opposition. this has not happened during the obama administration. there is virtually no communication between him and the republicans. i'm not suggesting for a second that the republicans haven't been very critical of him. they have. but you know, i interviewed vernon jordan, an african-american, who was on the book, and has been a major figure in the democratic party for many, many years and heñr said, yes, e republicans have made it difficult for this president, but when you are elected pres

one is july 14, 1987, the day clinton decided not to run in 1988. that is a big deal because he may have been elected but the survey would not have worked with the dlc. he decided that day he would not run. i was in mississippi giving a speech was supposed to meet with the former governor and he canceled because he was going to little rock to once the clinton campaign's one was surprised when did in cincinnati press calls for asking why clinton dropped out the best thing that ever happened to make and probably to him the second to was december 1980 it is not clear if horse who would be the candidate most people thought sam nunn would be the candidate. bruce was vice president of chief of staff and also wrote a memo suggesting to clinton that they do a ticket and they both thought they had to be on the top. but what happened? we sat down and the entire room and decided to the woods bin to five months to shape the agenda but then hast to me that chair realistic. if anything happened on the way to the ranch. but clinton made well got all of his legisla

the obama/clinton discord was clear. the clinton falls obama on policy. new york post, clinton blames obama on stupid policy. these are just two old friends talking on the phone, i'm not quite sure if i buy that line. but this is something we will see a lot of between now and 2016. where hillary clinton feels this broader general election, where she wants to distance herself from the president or at least for right now, isn't doing that well in the polls. at the same time, very delicate balancing act. this president is still beloved by the democratic party base. she walks this fine line. looks like this particular he episode will come to an end tonight, if and when they hug. how did she do in this sort of trial run for this separation strategy? >> you know, if she is running for president, and i think she is, she is going to need to talk about what it is she believes and what her world view is. when they ran against each other in 2008, they had different world views an policies and differences in policies are now being exposed are things she talked about

hillary clinton clinton will have to come up with specifics.hink she spent an awful lot of her time representing corporations and her husband. i have some ideas about candidates that have not been considered. out of the st. louis, missouri, and bernie sanders. patriots.le are they can reach across the aisle. they can reach across racial divides. they are patriots. joe biden is another one that is a bad deal. claire mccaskill, bernie -- joe biden,ive any of those would make wonderful vice president. elizabeth warren, i like her. to get she is not going along with republicans. i do not think she has the experience yet. she is a reasonable vice president candidate. guest: there will be a challenge to hillary clinton. how formidable the challenges remains to be seen. bernie sanders has said unless someone steps up from the left, i am going to run. he knows he will not win the nomination, but some on the left do not want hillary clinton moving to the middle. they want her moving to the left. this can be argued there is a perfect storm against hillar

now we've seen both clintons, mrs. clinton in benghazi, mr.linton with osama bin laden, both of them preferring to make sure their policies look good and they look good today world rather than protecting americans. i think the one message americans should get is that clintons really don't care about protecting americans. >> well, i appreciate your time and your service to the country, michael. thank you so much for being here. thank you. >> thank you, ma'am. >>> joining me now with more reaction is someone who was a very close advisor to former president clinton for many years, fox news contributor and my friend. >> hello. >> you heard michael there. >> i did. >> and you heard my question whether or not president clinton took osama bin laden's declaration of war in 1996, did he take those seriously? >> yes, of course he did. he was concern, maybe wrongly, about collateral damage. he was concerned about the intelligence. and he was also concerned about relations between india and pakistan and the wrong perception being drawn from a missile atta

that was the day clinton decided not to run in 1988. he might have been elected had he ran but he probably would have been pulled down by his party and certainly not have worked with the dlc. i was in mississippi giving a speech and supposed to meet with the former governor bill winner that day and he canceled because he was going to little rock to launch the campaign. i was surprised when i landed in cincinnati to have press calls asking why clinton dropped out chatty best thing that happened to me, the dlc and probably him. the second was in december of 1990, it wasn't clear if sam nun or bill clinton would be the democratic candidate. most people thought sam could be the candidate. he was clinton's domestic policy advisor and wrote a letter suggesting a clipon-nun ticket. both liked it but both wanted to be on the top of the ticket. we sat down in a house room off a hearing room and decided we would spend five months on the road shaping this agenda but because clinton had a legislative issue nun had to do the lifting. nun led the opp

so i support hillary clinton. i think what she's doing it good for the democratic party. >> host: so you think runs, beat hillary clinton or someone else, needs to look tough on ash's giddy? democrats are losing that under this president? >> caller: he is clearly in the polls unpopular on foreign policy, an piper in general but that's one of the is what is most unpopular. i think the democrats need to gain a little muscle in that area which i think is a good thing. i support her. >> host: on your point this is the column for "the wall street journal." the hillary metamorphosis. the wall street journal." "the hillary metamorphosis." he writes -- host: >> host: let's go to sean, nashville, tennessee, independent color. good morning to you. go ahead. >> caller: i would like to say that, go back to when president was elected at what was the first thing that the republicans said? you know, and then you want to talk about stonewall defense and all this. giving weapons to the enemy are whatever you want to call them. iv,

go after bill clinton.hen clinton was elected president in 1992, the resistance from the right was instant. it was heated. it was often way, way over the top. suggestions he had been involved in drug running, he had been involved in murder things like that. there was a lot of money behind the resistance too. a lot of money to be made by channelling it. this is how david brock first got famous. linked up with the magazine, american spectator. a fairly small and very conservative publication. but the man who was bank rolling it had big plans. his name was richard mellen scaffe, right-wing billionaire inherited a fortune from his father. he poured a lot of money into publishing. for decade he had been the single biggest supporter of "the american spectator" magazine. basically the guy keeping the thing alive. like the right, he couldn't stand bill clinton. heave couldn't believe he had ever been elected. he believed he was unworthy of the presidency and convinced. there were deep, dark secrets back in arkansas

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hillary clinton is also one of those people and most people don't know really about hillary clinton's real record because on college campuses she is portrayed as the ultimate female figure who provides a glowing example for women everywhere. the fact is that she doesn't. her other legacy is one of defending racists and sexual predators. i'm not just talking about her husband, bill clinton. are you ok with that? are you all right? to give you a little bit of evidence of this, audio of hillary clinton gleefully defended the child rapist was published by the freebie can. to give the laid-back story on this in 1975 in her time as an attorney hillary clinton took on the case of thomas alfred taylor who brutally waked the 12-year-old girl at the age of 41. clinton said she thought taylor was guilty. the issue isn't her defense of the accused. after all this is america, the worst of the worst in our society get their day in court and are entitled to an attorney. instead the issue is clinton's behavior after getting tower of a lengthy sentence for his crime when she thought he was guilty. he

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if government were smaller, clinton's speaking fees would be smaller as would the clinton initiative. >> as the u.s. is, and i'm curious to know whether or not some of these people paying bill clinton thought they could have extra influence with the secretary of state because hillary and bill are married and share the bank account. >> i'm sure that's what they thought, but if they thought that, they were mistaken. just because bill will take the check and go on to his next speech. and he probably doesn't even remember who he spoke to five minutes ago. so it's about the money. i don't worry about a conflict of interest. i worry about her judgment as secretary of state. >> there's an old expression. this person can't stay bought. do you think that might apply to the clintons? >> i don't think so because what bothers me the most is when they talk to the american people, it's with such contempt. they are full of so much virtue. this shows how much gor badge that is. >>> coming up, more than one in three americans are facing debt collectors over unpaid bills. our kbies have the stocks to o

it was signed into law by bill clinton. the brady bill, now the brady law as it's now known, mandated all federally licensed gun dealers perform background checks on customers in conjunction with federal law enforcement authorities. they couldn't just check off some background check form, put it in a drawer and never tell anyone about it. there were teeth in the law. the brady law changed the way people bought and sold firearms in this country. 1993, james brady sat next to bill clinton as he signed that bill. and today, james brady passed away. 73 years old. the bill that was named after him wasn't the only piece of gun legislation that was passed during bill clinton's first term. a year later, september of 1994, clinton signed the federal assault weapons ban. it was written by a senator from california who, herself, had been witness to a political assassination. senator dianne feinstein. she was the first person on the scene to find the body of the supervisor member harvey milk when he was shot and killed in 1978. preside

and bill clinton would never pull the trigger. clinton would never do it. time and time again. disgraceful. >> so it wasn't just -- your point is it wasn't just this one time he's recalling where he says i didn't want to do it because i didn't want to take out civilians because that would have made me no better than him. it was many times. >> according to shoyer, no one would have been killed on that evening. according to him bin laden was in an isolated area of a hotel and could have been hit with a missile and killed without that. but clinton demonstrated cowardliness during his period of time. and i will add in 1996 we had cobart towers attack on the united states and we had 17 soldiers killed, over 400 injured. and the clinton administration did everything possible to suppress the knowledge that iran was involved in that. they did everything possible to hide the fact that iranians murdered americans because the administration was afraid to act against iran. only louis freh later made it public or the clintons would have held that and suppressed that forever. >> this has bee

hillary clinton is also one of those people. and most people don't know really about hillary clinton's real record because on college campuses she is portrayed as the ultimate female figure who provides a glowing example for women everywhere. the fact is she doesn't and are underreported legacy is one of defending races and second graders and i'm not just talk about her husband, though clinton. are you okay over the? are you all right? so to give it a little bit of evidence of this, you know, last month of audio of hillary clinton gleefully -- was polish it to get a little back story on this, in 1975 during a time as an attorney, hillary clinton took on the case of thomas alfred taylor county man who brutally raped a 12 year-old girl at the age of 41. clinton said that she thought he was guilty. the issue isn't her defense. after all, this is america and even the worst of the worst in our society get their day in court and are entitled to an attorney. instead, the issue is clinton's behavior after getting taylor out of a lengthy

clinton responded to this idea with great enthusiasm. that's how i feel. maybe this is old fashions. and then she seemed to signal that, yes, indeed, she's planning to run for president. okay, i feel that this might be an old-fashioned idea, but i'm about to find out in more ways than one. what do you make of hillary clinton's criticism of president obama's foreign policy? tony, summerville, south carolina, democratic caller. your up next. -- you're up next. >> host: yes, i am shocked, okay? i am shocked for her to criticize the president. she's joining the republican chorus of treason. i am really shocked. but, but between her and any republican, any of the people that they have brought forth, okay? i will vote for her. i will support her 100% rather than any of the people they have brought forth. >> host: so she -- you think, toni, she's got the base no matter what, the democratic base? >> guest: yes. i think she does. she has the young people, okay? people really look up to her and admire her, and that's why i'm shocked that she joined the treasonous ch

hillary clinton did as well. but now there is a massive fallout and a big meeting tonight between the president and mrs. clinton. we'll have the very latest. police in tucson, arizona attacked after they try to take an illegal alien into custody. what's this all about? we will tell you. >> get nervous? >> i suffer from severe dyslexia, too. i was only the child in my block to go trick or trout. >> why can d. robin williams capture the imaginations of so many americans. dennis miller, a friend plaintiff williams, will weigh in tonight. >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ >> hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the democrats split over president obama's troubles abroad. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. as we have suggested time and time again, the major problem with president obama's foreign policy is that he doesn't anticipate problems and then when they arise, whether it be terrorism, putin, iran, he seems unsure, almost p

hillary clinton got a rapist off. bill clinton let a terrorist off. i cannot condemn clinton for this other than that he likes to tell stories. and this is what happens when you tell stories. sometimes the stories come back and bite you in the butt. >> and sometimes the stories get exaggerated. i spent half of today trying to remember why i didn't think this was news. and trying to figure out, you know, i had heard this before, but i think it was probably because somewhere in the white house, i had heard it over time. and something we talked about. because i think as those points are made, it wasn't all that relevant. what i always understood when i tried to confirm it today, i didn't talk to the cia, okay, but osama bin laden at the time wasn't in the town. he was in a camp. when bill clinton said he would have killed all those women and children, unless he was planning on a carpet bomb, like a huge area, that actually wasn't going to happen. it could be the case of a story gets better the more you tell it. >> maybe he should stop telling it. >> a lo

more from former president and cgi founder, bill clinton.ot going to ask you about secretary clinton's decision to run for office. if you feel like sharing that, i am sure we would all be happy to hear it. [laughter] >> i don't know, but i'm for whatever she wants to do. [laughter] this is an immensely rewarding thing. i wanted to say to all of you that the fundamental fact of power in a highly integrated, interdependent world is that it is more dispersed. the good news is you have more of it. you can come here and form alliances and drastically increase your impact. the bad news is, people who are trying to wreck things have more influence, too. the traditional nationstate all over the world is under stress, which is driving some people to support more authoritarian governments. we don't want that in america. it's not like you can't have a meaningful life outside of politics, but it's not like politics isn't still really important. for the rest of the life of everybody in this room, you will live in a period where power is more dispersed an

clinton's comments drew a sharp rebuke from david axelrod in an apparent reference to clinton's suchort of the iraq war in 2002, axelrod tweeted, quote, just to clarify, don't do stupid stuff means stuff like occupying iraq in the first place which was a tragically bad decision. it all goes back to what's described as the president's foreign policy doctrine. last month "the new york times" described the credo with a baseball analogy, you hit singles, you hit doubles. every once in a while we may be able to hit a home run. in private conversations the president has used a saltier variation of the phrase "don't do stupid stuff." clinton's comments criticizing the comment drew a lot of attention. her camp is trying to end the back and forth. a statement issued yesterday reads in part, quote, earlier today the secretary called president obama to make sure he knows that nothing she said was an attempt to attack him. >> blah, blah, blah. >> his policies or leadership. >> we're not stupid. who thinks we're that stupid. >> i wasn't finished with the statement. >> it was an attempt to attack

he called out hillary clinton by name for her hawkish views on syria. wrote, to interventionists like former secretary of state hillary clinton we would caution that arming the islamic rebels in syria created a haven for the islamic state. we are lucky mrs. clinton didn't get her way and the obama administration didn't bring about regime change in syria. that new regime might have been isis. on "meet the press" sunday the senator called hillary clinton a war hawk. listen. >> in a general election, were i to run there will be independent and democrats who say, we are tired of war. we are worried hillary clinton will get us involved in a middle eastern war. if you want to see a transformational election in the country let the democrats put forward a war hawk like hillary clinton and see a transformation like you have never seen. amazing stuff that this campaign has begun in 2014. two years from thousand. >> to look at history, a generation ago all the fights about intervention, isolation and so on were within the democratic party starting with johnson and

or a clinton campaign could flock. it did happen once before.es of that previous campaign that two skilled political reporters, jonathan allen and amy bonds picked up hillary clinton's story. these are the storytellers you want, experienced, sourced, astute. jonathan is former white house bureau chief for politico and currently washington bureau chief for bloomberg news and amy is white house correspondent for the hill. their book, "hrc: state secrets and the rebirth of hillary clinton," is the story of her phoenix like rebirth out of the ashes of her stunning defeat in the 2008 democratic primary some members of ambition still burned. who would have guessed? as you might have surmised with the clintons there were some scores to settle too. her younger rival had a job to offer her and it is possible her performance in that job as secretary of state will make or break a campaign. washington post review of "hrc: state secrets and the rebirth of hillary clinton" called it deeply reported and ably written. for free layers of intrigue develop when a

i think the clintons both value that and their staff.elicate dance to do this i think you could say and we had to deal with them from the beginning. we sort of came to them with this idea a clinton operation we said we would like your cooperation. this is what we want to do and i think slowly over time they sort of started seeing where we were going and started helping us more. they were actually really valuable and in telling the story. the only thing -- i don't think they could've told told the story without them. >> to add to this we went to the clinton people very early on and said this is what we want to do. here are the people we want to talk to and every once in a while we would send out a blast of e-mails to people who had not set us up and got a few more people set up on the calendar so there would be a response and we could directly contact people but we also talk to people who had access to were not part of the inner circle. i think that's where a lot of valuable information from the book came from. those people didn't feel th

that includes hillary clinton.linton's book about running the state department talks about al qaeda, a little bit a syrian army and doesn't mention isis once. it's a reminder of why jihadist uprisings keeps happening no matter what the u.s. does. he writes the sunnis constituted more than 70% of the population. one of the top challenges for the u.s., she writes, was helping the opposition unite across the country's many religious geographic and ideological lines. was that a top challenge or is it a trap? the lesson of iraq isn't simply to be a less hawkish. it's also to be wary of alternatives to regime change. with four presidents consumed by iraq, we should remember the restraint of one. most effective, george h.w. bush. he argued hussein was so bad that we had to remove him from kuwait but the alternative was so bad that we had to leave him in power. we need to spend more time comparing assad to china. that does it for "the cycle." "now with alex wagner" starts right now. >> t-minus three hours until the great v

by the way, hillary clinton supported that. so there is some tension i think between the two camps, but she has to separate herself from the president. i think he understands that. but it is a little early for a general election campaign. she is misraiding the polls to think this represents the democratic party. obama's numbers may not be great overall, but democrats still love him and she is really kind of picking a fight here that she doesn't need this early in the game and she has done it in artfully which is a bigger problem as we gear up to watch her run which i think she is almost certainly going to do. >> well stated. tom? >> it is clear that hillary clinton is running for president in 2016. i know people don't want to say that yet, but it is obvious in the way she is making the statements. deliberately entertaining a series of difficulties with the administration. not simply on this, but if you look at her book as well. the interesting counter side to the neo con line. she is having all these elements of the democratic

we can pick apart the clinton record. she can make the case of fellow democrats in primaries ahead if she does run she has been in the arena. what other democrat out there could challenge herself on these issues with credentials close to hers. >> there will be a candidate challenges her from the left. we've already seen some people. bernie sanders talk about. he would be to her left. martin o'malley on some issues is staking claim to the left. in terms of real challenge the only person who can really make her scared is elizabeth warren. she is only person to the left. ed: the name we keep hearing that keeps popping up. shira, jamie, appreciate the conversation. >> thank you. >> now to some economic news for you. technology giant cisco cutting thousands of jobs after another disappointing quarter. silicon valley mainstay eliminating 6,000 jobs or roughly 8% of cisco co's workforce. they are known for its networking hardware but struggled to compete in emerging markets and selling to service providers such as cable companie