president clinton's administration look back on the domestic policies of the clinton white house. they discussed the president's achievements and policy setbacks as well as his political skills and crafting compromises republicans. the clinton presidential center and the university of virginia's miller center hosted this hour and 20 minute event. it was part of the commemoration of the 10th anniversary of the clinton presidential library. >> welcome, we are happy to see you here, i am susan page, i covered the 1992 campaign of the clinton campaign, and i can tell you that domestic policy is catnip for bill clinton. i believe that president clinton had nothing that he enjoyed more than exploring the earned income tax credit. his penchant for policy included the first law that he signed as president, the family medical leave act, as well as the children's initiative, the other laws that we will discuss, and if you wonder the impact of these laws, i was speaking on a radio show and one of the producers was not there because her family is going through a rough patch, and she is able t

-- bill clinton? >> i saw bill clinton from a balcony in 1992, but no i have not met him. [laughter] >> we are going to talk about domestic policy in the clinton administration, and the legacy, so set the stage for us, the political landscape that he faced in 1992. >> sure, thanks susan, and i want to give my thanks to the eller center for the opportunity to speeak, and for the opportunity to learn. let me mention a few things, then. i want to remind rather than to instruct and i want to remind us that the miller center is intruding, but first and most basic is the broad placement that the clinton administration has, and what political scientists often call political time. a yale scholar writes about the cyclic shifts in parties and governing coalitions and leadership and the cycle either enable or in some cases restrain presidents who are elected he even if they are against the prevailing grain of the party order. then we want to talk about president's preemption, and we think of dwight eisenhower, who was elected despite the continuing dominance of the new deal coalition

he did it to hurt hillary clinton because he wanted to hang nafta on the clintons, on the clinton couple. >> because president clinton, bill clinton -- >> bill clinton. >> -- had sponsored it with the republicans in 1993. >> because he made a tactical political decision that it would be a great thing to move the democratic party to the center -- i would call it move it to the right -- on matters concerning the working class. the working class today, thanks to what bill clinton did on nafta, is now becoming, i would call it, the lower class. >> so you went to this town. >> i went to this town more recently. >> why did you pick fostoria? >> well, because larry bossidy, who was the ceo of alliedsignal which owned autolite in those days -- >> autolite makes spark plugs. >> autolite makes spark plugs. i actually have a spark plug that i took from the plant here. it's one of the last ones made there. and bossidy said famously in a debate on cnn that -- he held up a spark plug and said -- >> right now you can't sell these in mexico because there's a 15% tariff. if we can, if this nafta's passed

in a couple of weeks he'll be working for clinton. >> what's interesting on the clinton front, she obviously understands that things have changed since bill clinton's presidency. bill clinton, he reduced capital gains tax as part of the '97 budget deal. he contributed and had a wall street friendly administration. it will be kind of interesting to watch as these markers are laid down by democrats nationally how far away she moves from bill and how she talks about that. >> yeah. >> what republicans have to do. you have mitt romney talking about income inequality, what are they going to do in terms of real plans. >> with economic growth up, there will be more tax money in washington. the question is enough pressure to give the presidents one or two things. give them that. this is a job that everybody seems to want until they do it. marco rubio, have a drink of water, it's a hard job, i'm not trying to pick too much fun there. jonie ernst, you might remember her. she's going to deliver the republican response. if you're not quite sure who she is, here's a little flashback of how most of you met

he did it to hurt hillary clinton because he wanted to hang nafta on the clintons, on the clinton couple. >> because president clinton, bill clinton -- >> bill clinton. >> -- had sponsored it with the republicans in 1993. >> because he made a tactical political decision that it would be a great thing to move the democratic party to the center -- i would call it move

the fact of the matter is, you know even after senator clinton or then former senator clinton action secretary clinton now, started to make her comeback in the campaign against the president in primaries in 2008, it was by the numbers, it was too late. she could have won a number of those later states and still not been the nominee bays the obama campaign at the time had done a better job. john podesta is going to make sure that doesn't happen again. host: peter joining us from florida, good morning. democrat, republican or independent? where do you put yourself peter? caller: a little of each. i am a retired veteran in crystal river, florida. i will turn my t.v. off right now. host: okay. caller: i would like to say... host host: are you with us? caller: they talk about the republicans being for the upper part of people with the bids and& the lower ones being for the working man, the party. how can you go to work if you are in the lower group of business people or the upper business people to put you to work? a poorman can't put to you work. that's all i've got to say. host: thank y

will he approve a direct hit on hillary clinton. he will say how can secretary clinton provide opportunity for all if she doesn't know where jobs come from in the first place. that sounds like a man repairing to run. >> it is not just the viewers. they are in the process of deciding and they will decide quickly. >> here is the data he is getting. some donors are saying i will not be with you. he wants to collect a high enough percentage that he can compete with jeb bush, and chris christie and others. here are -- it is hearing things that jeb bush is not is strong as some think and in the polls you still lead. this will be harder than running but you will win. >> if he wins iowa and new hampshire. it is less of an issue because he said he is willing to put his own money in. i think the frustration i have heard most not just from donors but activists is everything he said is a rationale, a process oriented rationale. it's not about his candidacy. what does he stand for? >> that is why he puts out these texts. the other thing is focus

clinton. the same thing with the bushes. the mother said it best, she is the only one i liked. the biggest mistake reagan ever made was choosing george senior as the vice president. as far as the candidates for the republicans, scott walker is not the best speaker but he is proven that he can do the job of being governor of his state. we need a governor, we do not need a community organizer again. i would love to see mitt romney. he would make a neck some president but he is wrong with immigration. rick perry is the same way. he talks so tough, but it does not show it in action as far as immigration. illegal immigration. we need to make that distinction, not immigration illegal immigration. host: thank you for the call. this is from tag who says jeb bush is polished and language that would appeal to a more diverse population. he would be the toughest competition for clinton. the question we are asking, could you like for the white house in 2016? caller: i listen to talk radio. i endured practi

. >> when you say new stuff about bill clinton, what you talking about?> anything. business dealings. travels. whatever it might be that is important for people to know about bill and hillary clinton that is not old and stale stuff that we are ready no. i think it's fair game. i can't take you what it is. i'm not hiding it from you. i'm not going to be a chairman is going to sit here and say, we are not going to do it. not talk about anything other than fair trade with china, fracking, or clean coal. >> what about things from the person life? are those things fair game question mark. accident is what it is. >> is that fair game. ? >> it depends what it is. if it is something that is clearly egregious and something that most people would give a frown to, it is fair game. we are playing this hypothetical game. >> a few years ago, the conventional wisdom was it is better to have your convention later in the cycle. you made the decision it is better to have an earlier. i see the advantages of going early. are you taking any risks by having an early convention

is he hillary clinton or is he bill clinton? hillary clinton in 2008 ran, she was formidable on paperu.s. like jeb bush is now, she had a great organization, could raise the money like jeb bush is now but she had an ideology problem, voted for authorization to go in war in iraq, jeb bush has the ideology problem on immigration and education or is he bill clinton who ran against his own party said democrats have to be different. we're wrong on some issues and we have to change if we're going to win and his viability as a general election candidate helped him survive some inner party challenges? >> i think he wants to be a bill clinton. but they're going to do their darnedest to make him the hillary clinton and i think that's what he -- remember he's talked about wanting to run with joy. >> with joy. >> a real desire. he can see the path from march 2016 on. what he can't live with is between now and march 2016 and clearing the decks and putting all the e-mails out there has an appeal not only to us because it makes our job a littl

>> guest: for bill clinton, obama suffering so badly in 2010. it was like okay, now you know how i feel. you've been complaining before. now you know how it feels. i think barack obama started to appreciate bill clinton's talent. >> host: which came after that. they're bonding experience happened with the meeting at the white house. a fantastic theater because this is not barack obama's idea. i can promise you that it literally they called the lingo in the white house for us they were not going to produce any more news today. if you need to go home, you can go home. they decide they want to make a statement to the president. the doors locked, guys. can you let us in? christmas party time. you guys want to do well? >> host: about four years ago right now. >> guest: it was a tree. i have to do is stand up, i was there. i wasn't going up 10 i had to be there if i didn't have to but i had to be there for work. bill clinton's ability to explain potentially why obama had to break its promise and not repeal the bush tax cut that year. it was the first

why in the world would i support hillary clinton? >> well, first of all, she's the most qualified candidate the candidate that has the most traditionally liberal view in the mainstream of our party. i don't know what you mean by close to wall street. she accepted money from people who work on wall street as did barack obama. >> let me just pause here paraphernalia thet parenthetically she accepted more money from wall street when she served in the senate. i'm not mad about that but i'm not a left wing democratic primary voter. >> as i said if she were influenced by any donor and you had a fact to show that, it'd be troubling. but the fact she was senator for new york and got money from people in downtown new york not surprising. the fact that the fact that she's in the tradition of the base of our party and has been for 40-plus years, it's amazing as i guess somebody wrote recently that hillary clinton should be attacked from the left given that she's been a traditional progressive in our party for over 40 years. >> don't you think f

but at least hillary clinton didn't do what w did.e said i looked into putin's soul and found, what, god? i would be careful of that russian -- that future look at russia if i were a republican. >> i was the one who asked the question where bush said i looked into his soul. as bush way saying it i couldn't hear him. i was looking at putin's eyes like you're not getting out of this country, young man. it was the scariest thing. >> burn saw something different. >> i saw something different. >> the gender comes into this always, you never know -- we've seen debates between a male and female. george bush taking on ferrara and joe biden taking on sarah palin. how will it go? can you make direct shots, bakley saying you're no gip >> hillary clinton is none of those people, right? she's a completely a creature apart. there's no other equivalent of that combines all the former things she's been plus her celebrity status, plus her inevitability twice now as a candidate. so attacking her is totally fair but you may not want to use it with words

and that's just so bill clinton. >> bill clinton thinking about politics, really? first dude or first man adam, if you will. >>> everyone stay with me. the big game is days away but the commercial game already kicked off. the controversies and the fun. next. push your enterprise and you can move the world. ♪ ♪ but to get from the old way to the new you'll need the right it infrastructure. from a partner who knows how to make your enterprise more agile, borderless and secure. hp helps business move on all the possibilities of today. and stay ready for everything that is still to come. >>> we're back with the panel, shira, wes and stephanie. who's ready for the game? >> me! go seattle! >> you're looking at the stadium in arizona where the super bowl is just four days away. the commercial already kicked off. a 30-second ad runs about $4.5 million. this year we've got everything from kim kardashian making fun of herself for t-mobile to a controversial go daddy ad that's already been pulled to a budweiser tugging at heartstrings to carl's junior with a risque ad we can'

it was a "new york post." >> bill clinton criticize hillary clinton.s you say there's no evidence -- >> you keep saying that. he was on the jet. he went to the island. he was there multiple trips. >> isn't clear he was on the island. isn't clear that anything involving bill clinton happened that was untoward -- a 17-year-old girl whose credibility has been questioned. >> really? you're going to attack the woman. >> i'm not attacking her. >> that's attacking the woman. >> i think it's raising questions about her judgment. >> hillary has delayed the announcement from april to june. doesn't have much competition. you can say it. but in the back of their minds with his past sexual history paula jones and jennifer flowers and juanita, kathleen willie and all these other women. if a story were like this to break and a woman comes out, how devastating is it to hillary's campaign? >> a, it hasn't come out. b, the reason it's delayed -- >> it wouldn't be farfetched doug considering his history? >> there have been plenty of stories and hillary's the front runner

"a bush can't beat a clinton." romney doesn't think a bush can beat a clinton. but can a romney?ave a lot of similarities. while they are fighting it out, does that open the door for someone else entirely? >> you've got to get new people you've got to attract new people to win and i think it's just time that probably the party's going to be looking for something fresh and new." >> to 16 is a long way away but in the gop, the fight's already on. joining me now is jonathan capehart "the washington post." and msnbc's abby huntsman. thank you both for being here. >> thanks, rev. >> abby, as a huntsman, what do you make of this? can you see a romney/bush clash? >> i definitely see that but i see this more being about romney himself. having been through this experience with my dad running, running for president is a humiliating experience. it's tough on families. a lot of people are scratching their heads saying what you really want to do this again? and what this comes down to is romney runs on ego. what he wants is control. and i think he had the sense that the party would sort of co

and could it make bill clinton, you know, be seen as a victim? >> no.- >> think it over a little. >> here's the deal counselor. hillary clinton had a $2 billion campaign apparatus she's building to take back the white house for her and her husband. that's all that there is. and for those folks these stories -- it's fine if there's a wink and a nod about bubba and the big dog and those things. but it's not good if you have him jet setting around with folks like this and it's not a happy picture. >> chris, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> i think it's the first time horn dogs have ever been said on the show. certainly no other than chris. >>> he lived a lavish life the best money schools could buy. but now this 30-year-old is facing serious charges connected to an unimaginable crime. >>> and up next why a growing number of cities are now moving to ban sledding. daughter: do you and mom still have money with that broker? dad: yeah, 20 something years now. thinking about what you want to do with your money? daughter: looking at options. what do you g

they hate bill and hillary clinton but really have nowhere else to go. i think hillary will spend 2015 signing a blood oath to follow the democrats agenda and i don't think elizabeth warren will challenge her. i have a real dark horse who's going to lean in eventually, california governor jerry brown. >> he ran against bill clinton believe it or not in 1992 but i don't think anybody can beat her for the nomination, unless she stumbles more than i think she will, other than elizabeth warren. >> i think the opportunity will be too much for her to pass up. these windows don't come along very often. i've been thinking for a while that given how barack obama has moved that party to the left particularly the activists who vote in primary, that's more an elizabeth warren than a hillary clinton party -- >> wait a minute, hillary clinton then has to adopt the policies of elizabeth warren and you think she will? >> we've already seen her trying to do that disastrously when she suggested that businesses don't create any jobs. i think this is going to be a tough cha

president clinton met monica lewinski in the white house and the international began to be widely used in the country. beginning now joseph campbell looks at the political and historical importance of that year. this is about 45 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the tv studio and another edition of inside immediate y. inside media is our weekly program where we talk with journalists, newsmakers and authors at issues and books. i'm your host, the senior program manager here at the museum. happy new year to everyone. we say adios and perhaps good riddan to a somewhat tumultuous 2014. we welcome 2015 with our resolutions hopefully still intact and hope it will be a prosperous one. today we discuss a new book that takes us back in time 20 years, and reminds us that 1995 was an exceptional year. here to talk about the book is j. joseph campbell, all authorize of "19195 the year the future began." which looks back at five decisive and pivotal moments of 1995 made it's watershed year whose effects reverberate today. joe is a professor i

clinton. john roberts has that story tonight from atlanta. >> mitt romney may not have declared himself at candidate yet, but if mississippi state university, he was sure talking like one. >> the president's dismiss sal of real global threats in a state of the union address was naive at best and deceptive at worst. >> in a speech to students romney took aim at his 2012 opponent criticizing president obama's refusal to label recent attacks in canada and france as islamic terrorism. >> i don't know how the president expects to defeat the jihadists if he won't even call them the name they are. >> romney also took aim at his potential opponent should he make a third attempt at the white house portraying hillary clinton as naive on foreign policy and domestic issues. >> secretary of state hillary clinton cluelessly pressed a reset button for russia. how can secretary clinton provide opportunity for all if she doesn't know where the jobs come from in the first place. >> the speech was barely over be

host: if hillary clinton wins she is the first female president of the second clinton. talk about what her advantages are and realistically, when do you think she would go for it, if in fact she does? guest: i think she probably will, sometime early next year she even -- i think she will start sending the stronger is the most. her advantage is, 18 of the last 21 years, she is the most admired woman in america. she has got her detractors, a diva -- a decent approval rating but, you know, a lot of people in the country do not like her, but more do. she can make inroads into the independent vote. and she did as a candidate in new york. on the downside, you know, as bill was saying, i watched him on the segment before me, the younger candidate usually does when. she will have to come up with ways to compensate for that. she will need to come out with some policies and ideas that appeal to younger voters. >> suggest maybe she comes out early. my question is, by waiting so long and everyone is watching her every move, though she heard her party by not going ahead and saying l

hillary clinton is also one. most people don't know about her real record because on college campuses she is portrayed as the ultimate female figure to provide a glowing example to women everywhere but she doesn't enter under reported legacy is to support sexual predators' in races and not just her husband bill clinton. [laughter] so to give you some evidence last month audio of hillary clinton gleefully defending a child rapist was published and to give you some back story in 1975 as an attorney she took on the case of thomas taylor a matter brutally raped a total crew at the age of 41. clinton said she thought taylor was guilty but her issue in the defense even the worst of the worst get their day in court and a title -- and title to an attorney instead after getting him out of a lengthy sentence when she thought he was guilty he served less than one year in prison callback describing the actions of decca better she had a cool attitude i had him take up polygraph which he passed which forever destroyed my faith

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clearly senator clinton, secretary clinton went a whole lot farther than he did.'s just a thirst and a hunger particularly within the democratic party base for her to run again. one, because half of the base of the party thinks that she lost last time and folks want a woman to get the nomination and to take the white house. >> if he runs though what will he do to the party? if you have a hillary versus biden in the primary, what would that do to the primary? >> it would be interesting to see if he fractures the party. as a sitting vice president, is he the heir apparent and who will president barack obama endorse? hillary clinton or joe biden. i think that's one of the reasons your question is -- >> we know the answer to that question, i think. >> i think the american public is just like i don't know. you know? and i think that's why your question bodes well. it's true. is this something that could fracture the democratic party. >> everyone stay with me. when we come back hillary clinton, the impersonator. that's next. ♪ with the incredible fuel efficiency of 38 m

to paul's credit he worked in the clinton white houses and another clinton watching at home and she liked it. what is interesting is that bill clinton litigated a campaign where he said if you elect me, i will raise the taxes on the wealthy and redistribute that money to the middle-class. that is what thet president is proposing now, and we have mot had a campaign and the people have not voted on that. >> and if if you want to talk about optimism and bill clinton's optimism and ronald reagan's optimism and this is optimism speech. we is mot had a lot. and it is amazing what an improving economy will do for you and improving rate will do for you. >> and also the second to last one. >> and also, it is the only one that will make any difference, because you will be into 2016. >> and you mean we are not into 2016 yett? >> well, we can ask kevin mann about mitt romney and then we will ask you about jeb bush as well in a moment. >> and then i cannot answer you. >> and then this is going to set the table for up with way or another in 2016 because if he succeeds it is easier for hillary clinton a

they see her as the best chance to weaken hillary clinton and push hillary clinton to the left, maybe uncomfortable place that could get her off message and turn off independent voters in a general election. >> in fact though hillary clinton some would argue needs some competition, she's better when she's tested. elizabeth warren isn't going to be that competition in name because whatever she is doing is kind of circling but not declaring. but even though she says she's not running, just her celebrity and her prominence is pushing hillary clinton to the left. >> sure and what i would say to amy is very interesting story about the republicans in their dreams is elizabeth warren running. you're totally correct, she's not going to do that. she's in a very strong position especially because there is no real clinton alternative that's emerged from the democratic presidential race to be the lone star to which hillary clinton's views are measured. and so she has a lot of power by not running. maybe even more than she would have in the longer term by running because if she were to run when sh

they hate bill clinton and hillary clinton but they have nowhere else to go. i saw her signing a blood oath to follow the democrats agenda and i don't think elizabeth warren is going to trust her. i think it's a real dark horse, california derry born other than elizabeth james. >> i think she's a threat and i kind of think the opportunity will be too much for her to pass up. these windows don't come along very often and i've been thinking for a while given how president barack oh obama moved that to the left. you've seen hillary -- >> so hillary then needs to adopt to policies. >> we have already done that when she sunlighted businesses don't create any jobs. i think this will be a very tough challenge for her in the clinton '90s. >> let's turn to the republicans briefly and talk about this during the course of the year, no doubt about it. but the question in my mind, can anyone break up from the pact? because there's no real front-runner on the republicans side right now. >> i don't think there is. the person who is going to break out will be the one who lays

he is not clinton. clinton for all his faults was a conciliator. he was a man who wanted to get things done. not particularly idea logical. he wanted to do the best job he could for the eight years he was there. mr. obama occasionally lets that slide, inside him is a powerful left wing agenda. he wants to get it out there. he wants his bribe, bribe, bribe the voters, possible democratic voters as much he can before he leaves office. he is not a guy really responsible for the whole country. he's responsible for pleasing his -- >> i total lyly disagree with you. >> we're gentlemen on the show -- >> i didn't say you are are ridiculous. >> say thag the president is bribe, bribe, bribe, maybe a little bit extreme. >> all i want to say is i want to point out for what it's worth that the left wing of the democratic party is constantly upset with barack obama for not being as left wing. >> not after that. i don't think he's as much as an ideal. it isn't necessarily one of them. >> charles payne i see 320 some odd billion in tax hikes over the next 20 years

she needs to step outside of clinton world. if she needs to hire these are big signals she is sending. >> if you are a clinton person, you have to be wildly enthusiastic. these are adults from the no drama obama school. they will speak up not just to her, but president clinton. if she picks this team and surrounds them with similar people, it's a good sign she learned her lessons from last time. >> the key person is podesta because he's the ultimate adult and he is the guy who has straddled both worlds. he's been very close and has been close for a long time. he is the bob strauss figure and could manage wherever actions arise and she really needs that. but she needs to run, partly continuity. you have to run on continuity but you also have to distance yourself from some aspects of the administration. but the best margolis are perfect in terms of temperament. had we take the best of the obama coalition but expanded and turn the page a little bit? >> those are three really smart guys. house has voted to undo obama's apparatus. t

bill clinton nailed it. he nailed it. >> i was going to give you a compliment but i think i will take it back. this is interesting. you know the guy who played the muslim commentator on jon stewart, he's starting his own web series of which he's going to expose phobia people like me and eric bolling. >> wow. >> fantastic. >> however hopefully they will play that clip because bill clinton just summarized all of the things that we've been saying for months now. >> but then they'll make fun of you for supporting something that bill clinton did. it will never end. you'll always be the subject of -- >> let's talk about the pope. not olivia pope. the pope. this is what he was talking about. he was talking about what happened in paris and free speech, he had some opinions on it. let's roll it, shall we? so i guess i'll go to you, dana. i think he was having a casual conversation, talking about this making a metaphor, an analogy to his friend but he's wrong. he's very wrong, isn't he? >> my gut and my instinct says

. ♪ >> on the show tonight hillary clinton, chris christie and editor-in-chief mike pence, but first,he richest appraisers in america have determined they need to shell out with their allies about $900 million for the 2016 election, and they are prepared to pay in cash money. our bloomberg politics campaign finance reporter is in our washington bureau, and she joins us now. no doubt, i think they can raise the $900 million. what do they plan to spend it on? >> i think that if 2012 is a guide, they will save those resources and pump them directly into the general elections. they do not typically dabble in republican presidential primary politics. they save their resources, and they will deploy them against hillary clinton or whoever is the democratic nominee. >> what about democrats? how are they reacting to it? do they think they have to raise the same amount of money? can they raise the same amount of money? >> that's a great question. democrats are talked to are reacting with a mix of fear and glee. glee because there's no better way to raise money than talk about other peoples mone

and you have hillary clinton. i imagine a lot of folks hope that she wins. there are a lot of things that could happen. >> gavin newsom is a handsome man, almost the most handsome man. the question i have, is he a front runner for barbara boxer's seat or somebody else? >> since 1992, it has become a lot more expensive running. people will talk about gavin newsom, camela harris. they may be should be talking about two other people. one of him has the money out of his own pocket, and a former los angeles mayor. >> gavin is a very attractive guy. he has been working in a do-nothing job for a while. he wants this a lot. he will run for the seat. i think peter grosso will run. i'm pretty sure camela harris will wait for the governorship and she will be pretty much untouchable. >> when we come back, the attacks and america's response. ♪ >> our first guest tonight heads the wilson center in washington. congresswoman jane harman, thanks for coming in. >> good afternoon. >> we were talking about this quite a bit, and are still facts unknown, but when the history of t

clinton? >> what are the chances? well, i'm on record as saying i don't think clinton will run. >> you're sticking with that? >> i'm sticking with that. even though the evidence mounts the other way, i'm still sticking with that. even though we've seen, you know, potential other rivals such as martin o'malley, the outgoing governor of maryland suffer a big blow, not transfering the governorship to a democrat there. i don't think clinton runs, i think room nee runs. i think it's more likely to be a romney clinton than a bush clinton, i don't see -- i see it being a tough primary for jeb bush. the tea party movement was a reaction not only to president obama but also to president bush, very much so to president bush. there's a lot of bush fatigue in that party. the republican primary field is very disjointed. it's huge. it's going -- with mitt romney's announcement it's starting to get bigger than we thought it might be more disjointed. i don't think anybody is making a prediction about that right now is crazy but i thi

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