you were in the clinton administration. ou were in the obama -- the bush administration, the state department's on policy planning. tell us, if you look back, clinton administration, bush administration, obama administration, who handled russia better? if you want, of course, you may start with bush won. favorably disposed. >> guest: right. in my book i discuss for resets that we have had since the close of the soviet union. i was in policy planning in the last 18 months of the clinton administration, six months of the bush administration and then the national intelligence. both times when i served in government we were already on the kind of downward slide in the u.s.-russian relationship. i think the first reset was brief because obviously president george h. w. bush did a lot with president yeltsin, but that was very much when the focus and, of course, general scowcroft was the national security adviser -- with best focus was on disarmament, arms control issues, denude keel are rising ukraine and making sure after the col

commission during the reagan administration or the base realignment closing commission during the clinton administration of outside groups with integrity, former members of congress come in no elected politicians that come in and do a complete audit of the government from top to bottom. every agency has a piece of legislation or a charter that created it. it has a purpose. if it's not fulfilling its purpose, we are not doing it in a reasonable budget it should be cut or eliminated. let's take a start that came with the highest motivation? did you know there are now three had starts, there's early head start, advanced and regular. why do we have the other to? two? because the first one wasn't working. the first thing i would do is not left the largest cable and tv company by the second-largest cable and tv company. that's where i would start. my job here on the judiciary committee is to act these hearings raise my concerns. he seems like a really smart g guy. he earns -- my job was to ask tough questions. they have 107 lobbyists on capitol hill. they are swarming capitol hill with lobbyists. but i got 10

taxes were low under clinton administration. taxes were low under the bush administration. >> guest: and the reagan administration. it's a combination. it's not just the taxes. it's the spending. that is what has got us out of whack here. even when the republicans are in office, even when they hold all three branches of government, this spending continues increase, maybe a little less than when the democrats are in office, but let's go would took woodrow wilson. right after world war i the taxes were finally cut and we had the roaring 20s. there were other problems that led to the great depression. i understand that. coming out of that we get to 1960 and john expend his famous detroit economic club speech about cutting tacks. there was a rush of new revenue because people were taking their money out of safe havens and bringing it back into the marketplace. as i say in the book, we have trillions of dollars sitting on the sidelines now. yes, the stock markets at an all-time high, but the hard-core unemployed and those looking for

rather unwelcome in the obama administration and arguing for the policy based on the previous clinton administration before the bush administration before the retrenchment of the obama administration. but it is often through the state department when i worked in the state department in different presidencies of reagan and clinton, of course, you have different perspectives but the state department is generally for a large role for the united states with international affairs a larger role for them. simple as that. more complicated than that the you put it that simple and not be so wrong. afghanistan your chronicle of your policy makes me want to repeat who said american policy does not change? does continuity is not a source of success in afghanistan but characteristic of its. to more specifically how it maximalist responses? it depends on the challenge. that is thought to be before the president at the time but it tends to involve a pretty comprehensive approach just done military response more foreign assistance more institution building. if it is characteristic of maximalists some in different ph

as part of a document dump by the clinton presidential library, 28 pages of memos were released. they outlined what the administrationcommunication stream of conspiracy commerce and one of those suspected in feeding this stream, david bossy. the former chief investigator for the house committee during the clinton presidency and president of the citizens united which made a negative movie about hillary clinton. david, confirm or deny? >> oh, you got me. oh, got me. >> shock, shock. >> there is gambling going on here. you know, hillary clinton, bill clinton, they haven't changed a bit. they do document dumps on friday nights of holiday weekends. we've been seeing this for 20 years. you know, i'm not surprised my name is in those documents from the early and mid 90s. doesn't surprise me at all. >> they seem to think you're feeling information about them that is negative into the media and information. i'll throw one on the boards so the viewers can see. here is the first one. they say from brown to other main stream media, floyd brown and his associate david bossy claim that dozens of members of the mainstream press, ti

or the brac commission, the base realignment and closing commission during, i think, the clinton administration. an outside group with integrity, former members of congress -- no current elected politicians -- to come in and do a complete audit of government from top to bottom. every agency of government, juan, has a piece of legislation or a charter that created it. it has a purpose. be it's not fulfilling that purpose or not doing it within reasonable budget, it should be cut or eliminated. let's just take head start. i mean, this came in with the highest motivation. do you know, and i didn't until i researched it, there are now three head starts. there's early head starlet, there's enhanced head starlet, and there's regular head start. why do we have the other go? the first one wasn't working. why do we have third one? because the second one wasn't working. >> veteran cleanuppist cal thomas on fixing a broken washington tonight at 10 eastern and sunday night at 9. and immediately following "after words," a heritage foundation book party for mr. thomas. booktv every weekend on c-span2. >> boo

i think two things are going on here i think first of all the clinton administration and this was true of the george w. bush administration as well viewed the united states as a benign hedge amman and we think that we are different than other great powers and that when we expand our influence countries like russia will understand that we're ultimately not very threatening because we are the good guys in the international system this is a remarkably foolish way of thinking about the world but i believe if you spend any time in washington it becomes clear that this delusion is widespread second point i would make is that paid a waiter with a story ok go ahead john finish your second point we'll go to i'll go back to stephen go ahead the second point i would make is we were able to get away with nato expansion in the early two thousand and in the one nine hundred ninety s. because russia was remarkably weak and because the initial waves of nato expansion were not so close to russia's border what's happened now is that russia has recovered from the one nine hundred ninety s. it's much more

. >> john, you mentioned the clinton administration. for this? >> i think he bears culpability as do so many world leaders at the time for not responding. and for turning away. i think that you remember the moment, it was six months after remember blackhawk dawn, our soldiers, u.s. soldiers have been shot out of the sky in somalia and there was this six months later this feeling, what are we doing in these places all over africa and around the world? why are we in these locations putting americans at risk? when the genocide erupted in 1994, the instinctive reaction from congress and clinton administration at the time was to pull back, not to jump in. and that's what happened. they even -- not only did they not respond to the genocide during the 100 days in which it took place, but they actually blocked other countries from pushing particular initiatives to respond to the emerging genocide. >> you mentioned how much blame there is to go around, not just u.s. leaders but international leaders, nixing french participation of any kind in thi

that's why i was proud to be part of the clinton administration, when president clinton put importantquirements into reformed welfare. this is not the time to simply cut the safety net and let people fall to the hard floor. it is the time to work harder to make the safety net a trampoline that provides people with an opportunity to go forward. that is really the -- that is really the difference in philosophies. >> right. >> there are some people who believe if you just cut that safety net, somehow it will all happen. i think people will hit the ground with a hard, painful thud and they won't bounce back, but there are plenty of ways to turn that safety net into a trampoline and that's the right focus of policy. >> i also asked larry summers how to create a job. go to cnn money for the answer and for more of our conversation. >>> you heard secretary summers argue for a longer school day right here on this show. the goal is to close the education inequality gap. chicago's fiery mayor, rahm emanu emanuel, agrees, but is he all wet when it comes to education in the windy city? my candid c

in january. >>> the national archives posted the biggest batch yet of documents from the clinton administration. they are shedding new light on hillary clinton as she considers a run for the white house. the latest release 7,500 pages covers topics from health care to monica lewinsky. >> reporter: a day after chelsea clinton claimed the spot light with a bit of baby news. >> mark and i are very excited we have our first child arriving later this year. >> reporter: the latest documents reveal political irony. they tried to win support for their health care law. her name listed as an important vote. >> the clinton white house with lilly going after congressman, of course 20 years later she would become a member of the family. her son, mark, married chelsea clinton. >> reporter: the documents show hillary clinton often participated in high level political meetings, a sharp contrast with the current first lady. >> i think the documents show how much she worked in tandem with her husband. it is a contrast of what we see today. michelle obama does not appear to play of a role in her husband's politic

she served very well in the clinton administration.he's had experience in the private sector working for the gates foundation, working for walmart, sitting on the board of an insurance company. she comes to this competent and well prepared for it. she knows what she's getting into. she too has the maturity and the wisdom and the integrity to know she has this unique opportunity. what she said to me yesterday is, look, it's two and a half years left. i want to make sure i do everything possible to implement this in away a way that's going to benefit so many people and she's up for it. >> my thanks to valerie garrett for her time this afternoon. >>> when we come back, our panel returns to discuss the hateful response to kathleen sebelius stepping down pr her cabinet post after accomplishing a near-impossible task. ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. ♪ my mom wor

be the taxes are pretty low right now in the obama administration they were low under the clinton administration and the bush administration. so, i mean -- it's not just the taxes. it's the spending. that is what has got us out here today for coming you've got coming even when the republicans are in office when they hold all three branches of the government, the spending needs to increase. maybe a little bit less than when the democrats are in office that let's go back to wha what e wilson of world war i. after world war i, the taxes were finally cut and we have the 20s. there were other problems that led to the great depression. i understand that. but coming out of that we get to 1960 and the famous detroit economic speech about cutting taxes there was a rush of the revenue because people were taking their money out of the safe havens and bringing it back into the marketplace. we have trillions of dollars sitting on the sideline. guess the market is at an all-time high that unemployment for the hard-core unemployed and those looking for jobs for many months continue to be without work. people w

joining me now is former secretary of labor in the clinton administration, robert reich. he's professor of public policy at the university of california berkeley. his documentary "inequality for all" is out now. and nick hanauer. venture capitalist, technology entrepreneur and a partner at second avenue partners. bob, i want to start with you. you served in the clinton administration and the bundy moment is so strikingly similar to me than the kind of high water mark, a very scary at times anti-government militia activism we saw in the mid '90s. >> yes, it is similar. and it also is similar in the sense that a lot of that activism does not take account of the fact that a lot of these people like bundy are living off of federal lands, public goods. i mean, look at all the corporate welfare. we haven't seen this degree of corporate welfare in years. and yet you have a lot of these people who are -- are basically saying oil and gas, they're not doing well enough. they're already getting $7 billion a year in corporate welfare. so you've got people stirred up and angry because

and deputy security adviser during the clinton administration. and in studio with us molly m mcqueue, a foreign policy consulting firm. nancy soderberg, let me ask you, as you look back at the five years of the barack obama foreign policy, how is he doing? >> i think he's doing very well. he has been dealt a tough card. in addition to the healthcare law. he did get osama bin laden, keeping us safe from weapons of mass destruction falling into the hands of terrorism will be one of his lasting legacies, and he has done a lot to work with our friends and allies in europe and asia and latin america to solidify and lead america into the 21st century and bring the rest of the world with us. he has got a tough hand too deal with russia, that's going in the wrong direction, and that's not his fault. syria is still a tragic nightmare which i think he needs to have a reassessment on israel-palestine. but this is a man who knows how to use the superpower and set the superpower ship on the right course and in history that will be shown although right now it'

something akin to the grace commission ring the reagan administration commission during the clinton administration. with integrity, former members of congress, no current elected politicians, to do a complete audit of government. every agency of government has a piece of legislation or charter that created it. it has a purpose. if it is not fulfilling that purpose or doing it within a reasonable budget, it should be cut or eliminated. this came in with the highest motivation. do you know -- and i did not know until i researched it -- there are three had starts. two?do we have the other because the first one was not working. washington,broken saturday night at 10:00 eastern and sunday night at 9:00, and then a book party. year'sekend, this national black writers conference, saturday at noon eastern, with panels on race, literature, shifting identities in africa. then sunday, strengthening communities. as a panel of publishing. next eight discussion about a national shield law that would protect journalists from prosecution from protecting their sources. you will hear from the bill's sponsor, charle

and in 1993, the beginning of 9 clinton administration is the last time that the federal gas tax increased and that is the main source of the federal transportation funding and we are now at a point, where the highway trust fund, which is where those federal gas tax revenues go, it is expected to be out of money, within the next 12 months. and so no more federal transportation money, and unless congress does something this year, which i am sure that they will, at least to close the gap but not a very good picture in terms of federal funding and obviously not keeping up with inflation, and the federal gas tax is a number of cents and it is not a percentage and so it has been losing the purchasing power over time. and then the third blow here was soon after coming into office, governor schwarzenegger lowered the vehicle license fee by 68 percent which is money that had been flowing to the cities. if misery loves company, we can comfort $to the fact that we are not alone, this is not unique to san francisco, the bay area just did the regional land use and transportation plan and identified th

administration or the commission, the base realignment and closing commission during, i think, the clinton administration. an outside group with integrity, former members of congress, no current elected politicians, to come in, do a complete audit of government from top to bottom. everything agency of government, juan, has a piece of legislation or charter that created it. it has a purpose. if it's not fulfilling that purpose, or not doing it within a reasonable budget, it should be cut or eliminated. take head start. i mean, this is -- this came in with the highest motivation. do you know, and i did not until i researched it, there's now three head starts. there's early head start, enhangsed head start, and there's regular head start. why do we have the other two? the first one was not working. why the third one? because the second one was not working. >> on "after words" cal thomas on fixings broken washington sunday night at nine. ..

the wal-mart foundation and the gates foundation, and of course she spent many years in the clinton administration working at robert ruben's chief of staff and very instrumental in getting us out of the debt crisis in 1995, and so, and she was unanimously confirmed just a year ago, so i think i would say as a guess, that says the war wages on, we don't know what is going to happen, but everyone is saying wonderful things about her from larry summers to senator mccain and everyone inbetween. so things look favorable. >> let's talk a little bit about this whole issue of equal pay for women. here you have marsha blackburn said no we are leading the fight for equal pay for women but republicans blocked that in the senate. a lot of people think the administration, frank rich, pushed this issue knowing they couldn't get it passed but they thought it would make a great issue in the coming campaign. what is your sense of that? >> i think you are right. i think that's right. with that said, what congressman blackburn said is incredibly disingenuous when she talks about how republicans have led on women's r

he worked in the clinton administration. >>> and bad news if you rent your home. rents are projected to rise for a fifth straight year. demand for rental housing is growing and supply hasn't kept pace. nationwide, rents rose 3.2% last year. it can be extra tough for renters because many have seen their income go down or stay the same. >>> and that's your cbsmoneywatch report. for more follow me on twitter at #jillwagnercbs. at the new york stock exchange, i'm jill wagner. >>> it is 4:50 on your friday. oakland wants you the city rolling out the welcome mat to track more tourists. the new plan to get visitors to stop on by and the one major challenge if they do. >> talk about a transformation. what it took to turn a shelter into a five-star restaurant. and who was behind the surprise. ,, ,,,,,, / ,, h,z/ to shake its negative image. it's launching a p-r campaio >>> starting out with rain around the bay area this morning. by the afternoon some widely scattered showers and partly cloudy skies. the temperatures staying down. 50s at the coastline, 60s in the south bay.

why should we say my supreme court case i sued the clinton administration i was sure rough and six others were part of it we should have had thousands but we didn't people were afraid to get involved. we cannot be afraid anymore. it is not just a mess but ameritech dying -- america dying but if we have a sheriff some local officials to tell the federal government there are a few things that you will want to hear. lou: in vermont to what is the reaction for your call to the sheriff to uphold the constitution to ignored the state restrictions of the second amendment? >> those are a complete violation of state and federal law with the constitution. why not? lou: what is the reaction? >> we have not heard too much because they don't think this is going into the fact because it violates vermont law. lou: good to talk with you. a 20 year-old british sniper fires the shot of the century. last december he fired a single bullet against a taliban fighter in afghanistan that not only killed his intended target who was nine football fields away but also killed five other suspected fighters with the

>> he is a former clinton administration member. , he is the kind of guy you bring in when you have a crisis. his twitter feed says that he feels best in a war room. they are kind of in a war room situation and they are putting together an interesting team. him, steinberg, lucas. people who are respected by others. >> trying to get at this crisis, what is this telling the folks on capitol hill that this 18 is assembled. a-teamhat they have this assembled? the kingeinberg said solomon of these things. you don't want to push people away. >> let's talk about mary ibarra's appearance on capitol hill. kind of a mixed bag. we received word today that they are -- there will probably be another round of hearings because the people on capitol hill say i'm a minute, why not let gm finish their internal probe and then we can bring her back and ask for more questions. >> that was sort of the litany of questions again and again. she had to keep having to answer we will have to wait for the investigation. finally someone said, when we are done with the investigation, will you come back and she said

mywell, going way back to days as a cartel prosecutor in the clinton administration, records, data onn those days, it was not so much cell phones, but their work some cell phones, it was crucial in the investigations that brought down the cartels, and in the cases before the supreme boards, the data was crucial, as well. in one case, there were gang videos. it was a gang retribution murder case, and in another case, there was data that identify the home of the person who was arrested, police to go the there and search the home and find lots of guns and drugs and other things, and in both of these cases, the data was crucial, but the question was, was it time sensitive? did they needed at that moment, or could they have gone to a judge and secured a warrant? they'd in both cases had probable cause. i tell my friends to be conservative on these things. if you can get a warrant, get a war and, because you do not want to put the fate of all police actions on the court, and they could make bad law. >> ok, we are watching matt. brian cunningham, senior advisor, thanks so much for joining us

i can remember where we created as many jobs as we did during an average year during the clinton administration. this is crazy. the idea that they should be considered an acceptable pace of harbors is really, really wrong. >> paul krugman discussing current u.s. economic conditions with tom keene. the congressional budget office, congress's non-budget scorekeeper, has reviewed the obama 2015 budget and the results are in. yang yang is in washington with the details. no major surprises in this latest cbo scorecard. budget request's would boost tax revenues and in turn cut deficits. if enacted, taxes over the next decade would increase by nearly $1.4 trillion and deficits would be cut a little over one dollar trillion. that is -- over $1 trillion. when you look at the baseline and the residents plan side-by-side, you see the deficit as a percentage of gdp would actually be higher over a three-your period under the obama budget and then lower for years 2017 to 2024, staying close to 3% compared to the baseline 4%. so the president's plan has that going for it. it cuts the deficit by $1 trillion ov

next is susan, who is a democratic fcc appointment, appointee during the clinton administration. she now is a senior fellow at the sais center -- >> pronounced "sice." >> good. and a founder of susan ness strategies, a member of the board of directors of the inept company. -- the gannett company. >> next is henry rivera. he was a democratic commissioner serving in a republican administration, that of ronald reagan. henry hasing the fcc practice communication law. and currently, i'm produce a, with our firm, where he serves as a partner. for some 20 years, he has also been the chair and chair emeritus of the minority media and telecommunications council. last but certainly not least, i appreciate never taylor tate who tate, who isylor filling in for michael powell who is ill. heressioner tate is today and we very much appreciate it. she was a republican appointee to the fcc during the administration of president george w. bush. she is now a special envoy to itu on child online privacy. protection. and also serves on the board to the aspen institute and the fre e state foundation.

to the grace commission during the reagan administration or the brac commission during the clinton administration. an outside group with integrity. former members of congress -- come in and do a complete audit from top to bottom. has a piece of legislation or a charter that created it. it has a purpose. if it does not the filled up purpose or do it within a reasonable budget, it should be cut or eliminated. take head start. this came in with the highest motivation. do you know, there are now three had starts? why do we have the other two? the first one was not working. "afterwards," cal thomas on fixing a broken washington. amediately following, heritage foundation book party as he signs his book. national black's writers conference. panels on race, power, politics, literature, and shifting identities in africa. plus, a panel on publishing. book tv on c-span 2. congressman and former vice presidential candidate paul ryan was the keynote speaker at this year's iowa republican party lincoln dinner. they traditionally hold the first presidential caucuses. after his prepared speech, he talked with ma

he served as secretary of the department of agriculture in the clinton administration and 18 years in congress, but most importantly he was the former director of the institute of policy. he had my job. golden served as director of the office of management and budget. andy card also was chief of staff in bw bush administration -- in the george w. bush administration including the beginning of 9/11. senate majority leader trent lott is the cochair on the committee for political reform. he was a senator for many terms from the state of mississippi. -- jovernor johnson a new hn sununu. staff for president clinton was supposed to be here but he is ill and cannot join us. he full bios are in your program. you can google them and see this. we want to invite everyone online to join in this conversation. if you are physically here, we have a card where you can write a question and there will be people going around in the audience and will grab a question. we'll hopefully get to one or two coup of those. we will certainly get to one. you can also send an e-mail or tweet. the twitter handle is

. >> sylvia mathews burwell has held posts in the clinton administration and the private sector. last year she was confirmed by the senate for omb job, the vote: 96 to nothing. this time the going to will be rougher. republicans will use her nomination as another chance to attack health care reform. mitch mcconnell said in part, secretary sebelius may be leaving but the impact it's having on our constituents aren't. obamacare has to go, too. standing alongside the president and the departing sebelius burwell welcomed her new role. >> i'm humbled honored and excited by the opportunity to build on the achievements that kathleen, the president and so many others have put in place. >> and that was mike viqueria reporting. in ukraine, pro-russia activists in the east are digging in. kiev has offered more autonomy to eastern regions. the sprassist -- separatists in donetske. >> against a new ukrainian government. it's been a week since the takeover of the main security building in lugans. like elsewhere in the east a referendum on federalist is their main demand. but with every day tha

she served in the clinton administration. it seemed as maybe an easy fit.are going to relitigate obamacare as part of the senate confirmation process. >> thanks so much. >> a hearing for the under cover new york police officer accused of being a part of the motorcycle gang attack. he is among 11 bikers charged in the september 29th brutal beating of an suv driver. he claims that he was only a witness, but prosecutors say he smashed one of the suv's windows and did nothing to stop the april tack. the ten-year police veteran told employees he couldn't intervene because he was under cover. >> in a few hours the ex-con in the deadly daycare crash finally turned himself over ending the 24-hour manhunt. he rammed another car into the day tear center where more than 50 children were playing then he drove right off. the accident killed a 4-year-old girl and left 14 others hurt. he has a long criminal record including another hit and run. >> a stabbing spree inside his pennsylvania high school earlier this week. did he know what he was doing at the time? his attorne

he served as ambassador-at-large to the former soviet union during the clinton administration, and he has held senior roles on the security council and the state department. he is currently the professor of international diplomacy at columbia and a senior fellow on the council of foreign relations. his new book explores the personalities and little-known stories of foreign policy. it is called "maximalist: america in the world from truman to obama." i am pleased to have steve sestanovich back at the table. great to have you back in the studio. ukraine. >> yeah. >> russia. where are we? >> it seems we're looking at a rolling dismemberment of ukraine. and i think it may turn out to be too strong a statement. i hope so. right now, the way the russians seem to be handling this is to challenge the authority of the ukrainian government and to warn that if they try to assert its authority in the eastern provinces where the support is weaker that russia will respond. respond they will, as the foreign minister said, as they did in georgia in 2008, the threat of war. >> they're threatening war

he was an assistant secretary at the department of labor during the clinton administration. he also has done work around auto recovery for president obama and he is an economist. so i think we will be able to bring a unique perspective having worn many different hats and certainly last but not least victoria but sin is the founding executive director of the women and public policy program at the harvard kennedy school. she works on a range of public policy issues affecting women both domestically and internationally and has been a leader on these issues for many years. we are excited and pleased to have you join us as well. i'm going to start actually first with amanda because i am sure amanda you didn't necessarily think in your life you were going to be out there as an advocate for equal pay but i think it would be interesting for folks just to hear a little bit about your experience. so you were working in mississippi. tell us a little bit about what the problem was. what is it that prompted you to think there was something going on that was wrong in the workplace? >> i n

i had to work with the clinton administration and obama administration.ot to be kind to everybody. >> good for you. thank you so much for the enjoyment that you've brought to so many millions. >> thanks, megyn. >> good stuff. go to facebook.com/thekellyfile. we'll be right back after this. >>> we are back. keeping an eye on the potential for tornadoes tonight in certain counties in missouri and texas. watch your local coverage for that as well. if you missed the interview with ted cruz, go to facebook.com/thekelly file. i'm martha in for megyn tonight. >>> and tonight, should soldiers be allowed to carry firearms on military bases? that and more on this jam-packed edition of "hannity." are you ready, america? let's roll. >> we have an active shooter on ft. hood. >> so what went wrong? >> we have multiple gunshot wounds. >> the latest developments on yesterday's tragic ft. hood shooting. >> also, part three of the expose traditio

. >> i heard a clinton administration official once say it's not our fault which we call you reyesist and there may not be truth to it. it's your fault if you get angry and react against it because that clearly shows you have guilt. >> they're not only sanctimonious people, they are amazingly insightful practicing psychiatrists as well. >> and deeply -- >> i'm very impressed by it all. let me turn to the issue of illegal immigration in which there seems to be more than enough guilt to spread around after ten years after nothing happening. where are we headed on this issue as we hear john boehner now say he's reversed himself nine separate times by our count in the past year. and now where are we with illegal immigration? is the speaker going to push the gang of eight bull for amnesty? >> it depends on whether he's more for the establishment or the grassroots. clearly the establishment republicans want amnesty. if they can just put the did sh. >> they've got so much empirical evidence. one would understand why they would feel that way. it's a nice emotion, but there just seems to be fe