administrations -- and i know there are always conversations -- discussions about the extent the clinton administration was different from the obama administration in terms of how they dealt with north korea. in the book i go through these. in the end, the packaging may have been different, but there is a positive path that has been on offer. in return for giving up their nuclear program, the united states, the international community would provide security guarantees, we would provide economic assistance, energy assistance, it would provide political normalization, money, it would provide a regional who it would provide a regional security environment in which north korea could feel safe and secure, all these sorts of things in return for giving up their nuclear weapons. but that has not worked. it has failed. it has failed for every administration going back to george h. w. bush. and i think with the obama administration, we have really reached the end of the road for this because i think many would argue that the obama administration, at least in terms of initial intentions, was the most forward-lea

pressured him to. >> if that were true, then governor clinton would have been asking david hale to make a false statement to the small business administrationplicated the man who replaced clinton as arkansas governor, jim guy tucker. as it became harder to separate fact from fiction in the complicated whitewater saga, the fallout in washington was very real. white house counsel bernard nussbaum resigned, after being hounded by republican accusations of trying to interfere with the whitewater probe. nussbaum had met with officials at the treasury department to get updates on the investigation into jim mcdougal's failed madison guaranty savings and loan. >> i don't think bernie nussbaum thought for a minute he was doing anything wrong. >> 10 days later came another resignation, associate attorney general webb hubbell, a former little rock law partner of hillary clinton. >> it became known that he had engaged in billing fraud while he was at the rose law firm. >> he had been filing false expense accounts, which basically defrauded his partners, but also his clients. >> there are no words capable of fully conveying to you my deep respect and ad

bill clinton's administration there was a situation in which promises were made for fuel and otherwise and a curtailing of nuclear issues and to work toward a peace regimen and that wasn't followed through at that time so we have to do steps to build trust and really what i think we're seeing happen here is south korea is following through on the pledge that president moon gave to the world that he believes in the sunshine policy he believes in non demonization and peace on the korean peninsula and it's only through that relationship that i think we're going to be able to talk about nuclear weapons and human rights in these very important issues so getting the south and north to talk it's their border it's their country is essential and restores the kind of respect that the u.s. should be showing to south korea i mean the north koreans that been pretty uncompromising album about their nuclear program very staunch a lot and that seems to have been a key tenet of you know negotiations going ahead of sanctions being lifted what mean what do you think north korea hopes to get out of these

>> going back to president bill clinton's administration. the first thing he did when they got in there as they reduced the way we scream people. if the secret service and the fbi had systems set up with a wood screen employees that the current administration wanted to bring it in the first thing they did was take that apart because a lot of their employees had criminal records. they ended up being hired anyway. one of the worst thing to happen there is during the time the clintons were there, vince foster, a lawyer for mrs. clinton took his own life, committed suicide. as soon as the fbi found out about it they contacted the secret service and ask them to put the uniform division officer on vince foster's office. as soon as he was posted, maggie williams, mrs. clinton's chief of staff, this is significant, mrs. clinton's chief of staff shows up, bullies are way inside there, take files out -- she broke a crime scene etiquette basically and then took the files back and then lied in a grand jury inside she didn't know anything about it. two t

tony: i think, to go back to the clinton administration, early in the clinton administration, you saw some dysfunction and changes of chiefs of staff and george was a spokesman and not spokesman. those kinds of things that happened. again, when you have real outsider campaigns coming into the white house, who are trying to do things with new people and new ways, i think you tend to see this kind of thing. i still think this is a little bit on the -- certainly on the outlier relative to other white houses. that's pretty clear. another big part of that is that i don't think they really expected to win. and they weren't -- they didn't -- they didn't do a whole lot of planning before-hand. i could tell you, -- we had the shortest, truthfully the shortest transition of any white house because we had the recount. so from the day of the recount until inauguration day was i think 32 days or 31 days. really, really short transition. but, boy, personnel was way ahead of where this administration was. or maybe any administration. again, reflecting of the real discipline on the process for people

was but a dream some years ago we started to invest in this kind of technology during the clinton administratione made gps available for civilian use we also started to invest in smart roadways but that's been 20 years the day of realization is on us and i think that any investment in infrastructure should include technology i also want to say that i think the investment in broadband is very critical as well. investing in infrastructure is about more than investing in concrete, asphalt and steel. it is investing in the hard side and the soft side. you raise a great point. >> not nationalizing 5 g >> definitely not. companies like verizon, at&t, they would say let us play the lead role we have to play with government as a partner in that process. >> mr. lutz, what about workers. talking a lot about investing infrastructure do we have the labor force that we need to help build $1.5 trillion in infrastructure projects do they need to be trained do they exist? >> i am sure america's construction firms women rise to the challenge. this isn't like a gigantic flood gate, it will be doled out, projects

it's interesting to note that the clinton administration's budget for this year projects building more deficits, in excess of $200 billion. we think we have to balance the budget as soon as possible. the debt is now $20 trillion in tax bill will add another trillion to the debt. >> i think my haircut was better in 1995. if you take a look at all of our full-scale efforts like the budget that we passed this year it had a lot of reforms in it and it is a balance budget. it's all balance budget plans but the problem is you have to get these bills to the house and the senate and get them into law. we think there's two things you basically have to do. you had to get the debt under control. you have to reform our entitlement program and make them work better and make those dollars stretch further and you have to prepare for baby boomers which were really not prepared for and how to grow the economy. this is been one of the most important things we could've ever done to grow the economy. this is a piece of our fiscal agenda which is economic growth through tax reform or revelatory reform. i d

it is interesting to note that the clinton administration's budget proposal for this year projects building more deficits, an excess of $250 billion, adding on top of the debt. we think we have to balance the budget as soon as possible. >> that was 1995. the debt is now $20 trillion, and the tax bill will add another $1 trillion to the debt. speaker ryan: yeah. my haircut was better in 1995 than in 1998. taking a look at that. [laughter] if you look at all of our full-scale efforts, like the budget we passed this past year, the diane black budget, that had a lot of reforms in it and is a balanced budget. i wrote eight of the budgets we passed since i have been in congress, which are all balanced budget plans. the problem is you got to give these bills to the house, senate, and president to sign them into law. we think there are two things you basically have to do to get the debt under control. reform our entitlement programs. make them work better, make those dollars stretch farther, and prepare for the retirement of baby boomers, which we are really not prepared for, and you have to grow t

i'm going to push back for you, reagan and clinton administrations understood a strong dollar attracts u.s. investment from overseas that creates jobs. and other administrations thought that weak dollar was good, it really about printing money, why you are for a week dollar. >> not necessarily a week dollar, mnuchin stated that dollar has got weakened recently, and that is a benefit to companies that do a lot of exporting. this is say positive thing for multinational companies that do a lot of exporting, the more export the more foreign country say get because dollar is week. but mnuchin, secretarye treasury and trump administration are for a strong dollar no doubt about that. liz: profits every seas translate to a lot of u.s. dollars here, but best thing is a stable dollar, not a dollar policy that is used to drive economic behavior, that is what analyst say, dollar is not wealth, it is a yard stick by how we measure our value of work and product, talk about a strong dollar or weak dollar to boost expert like saying we should increase ledge of a ruler or shorten a minute, you know wha

they were not rejected by congress, but the beginning of the clinton administration. new that he would pay a high political cost for the party and the other major parties. and yet, he went ahead and nafta was approved. next was the fact that in late 1994, they were becoming president of mexico. the country faced an incredibly difficult financial crisis. practically unprecedented. it was only a few days into my administration. the country is literally bankrupt. i need to support, not only of the imf, but it was very strong destabilization and reform program. and the institution is so bad that we need to put together more resources. in the situation, it would not only be a mexican crisis. it would affect the rest of latin america. it would be systemic to the entire financial system. i said, let me talk to larry. he says, you are commended. you may be right. yes, of course i'm right. >> you only have a lot of reasons. but anyways, he tried to go one way through congress. he worked with bipartisan leadership. but the thing could not get through congress. he used an old fa

. >> the spring of 1994 saw a clinton administration still reeling from early stumbles, constantly tryingo climb out from under mountains of bad press. >> we were looking at things that we didn't think could be survived and there was a lot of it. >> nowadays, the same sort of with this unbelievably uncontroversial president. may be more intense now than it was then but it was very intense then. >> on the morning of may 6th, 1994, just two days before the s statute of limitations claims was set to expire were lawyers for paula jones filed suit in little rock's federal district court. >> there was a mob scene, the press. they didn't know about us at the time. we walked past them. i had the stack of complaints with me and i passed them along. and all hell breaks loose. it's the complaint. they're failing it. craziness up in the clrk's office. in tell variety, the cameras are literally up to our noses. they're now following us out of the building. >> there remains a number of unanswered questions about who is behind paula jones and whether this is the legitimate lawsuit. >> questions about wh

you heard the last guest that was part of the clinton administration. she said she thinks it's the tip of the iceberg. other companies will do it. so many states like wisconsin where we have record high levels of employment. if you want to attract and keep your employees, what better way than to take the benefits of the tax cut and put it in bonuses and raising wages, a key things to do when a key work force is needed. as i mentioned, according to our department of revenue, that's an objective standard the way they measured previous tax bills. they showed $2,508, that's not chump change. that's real dollars that will help working families. i was here earlier today pushing our child tax credit, which will help families going back to school here at a retailer in wisconsin, northwestern wisconsin. for a lot of families that need those dollars, $2,500, that's real money on top of what they may or may not get from employers as well. >> neil: you're right in this respect that tax cuts come from the president because the media press doesn't give them much of a

bills in the playoffs for the first time since the clinton administration. jacksonville for the first time since george w. bush. jacksonville first playoff since 2007. final seconds of the half, 3-0 bills. through for 87 yards. picks up 12 here. game tied 3-3 at the half. going for it. touchdown. jacksonville out of their mind. 2 minutes left. 10-3. buffalo quarterback brought down. forced to leave the game with a concussion. up to the rookie to lead a come back. 30 seconds left. the pass tipped and intercepted by ramsey. ayif the ball hit the ground, it was upheld. jacksonville's first playoff win since 2007 and sets up next week's match-ups, tennessee at new england and pittsburgh host jacksonville. you will see both games right here. and tonight on game day, a look back at john gruden's first run in oakland, how he got the name chucky. >> we had a guy in oakland, went the wrong way on a hand- off and i lost my mind. there are 80,000 fans calling you an idiot, i had a break down. harvey williams gave me the name chucky and it stayed with me. >> that is ton

has not been great except by a few of us over many years now the obama administration the clinton administration the bush administration none of the others just this question in the media did not see it important to take up at that time so i think that some real hypocrisy going on here as with the question is how what's the reaction could u.s. relations with african nations not be affected and if so to what extent could it encourage them to to further turn away from the u.s. and look towards perhaps places like china for more investment for more interest there. well right now the african countries are already turning to china china's new silk will is now in transforming the world but it's the first time that infrastructure has been built in a significant size in africa since declaw your period we have railroads being built for the first time in over one hundred years with china's assistance so the african countries have already celt the sat at the united states and the west has turned away from them for several decades the question is can we get the united states to join with china join with the

guest: i'm having flashbacks to the clinton administration when president clinton was interviewed. it was over the secure line. they sort of answered and asked questions. the crux of some of the obstruction of justice claims against the president. there is huge risk. host: in that format? guest: in that sort of format, particularly somebody who can kind of bill off-the-cuff like donald trump. this would not be his first deposition and he has sat for a number of them over the years, but there is a huge risk there, but it also may be kind of enticing to him, particularly if he thinks he wants to clear things up. i just remember like how kind of diminished clinton looked in those sort of crane -- screen captures when you saw him in this weird windowless room on a secure line. obviously telekom was a little different back then, but it was a weird moment for the country. host: coming up on a: 30 on the east coast, a half-hour left with our panel. alex baldwin of "the hill," jason dick from "rollcall." terri is in canton, north carolina. what's on your mind? caller: good morning. good mo

that happened during the clinton administration and it may happen during this one the attorney general gets his way. i believe in the 10th amendment, i don't believe you have to put first time john offenders in with hardened criminals. that is a good example. we are working on the justice bill which passed in the house and there is a thing called a valid court order and the only reason he or she is in trouble is because of their age. do you really want to throw them in with hardened criminals and keep them locked up? that is a good way to start another one. president trump talked about the drug problem yesterday in the white house. here is what he said. president trump: we had a tremendous drug population and dealers all over the country, and we are hitting them hard, the dealers. the dealers are hit hard. what they have done to families and what they are doing to the we are, it is something focused on. whether it is the opioids, much comes through the southern border. people don't like to talk about it. it comes through many different the jugnd means, problem as much as you could poss

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the last time we heard about the council testifying, was during the clinton administration. this is not unchartered waters. >> that's right. this is an unusual situation, obviously because it's a president. also, i think the president has a pretty difficult choice here. he's employed the strategy so far of cooperating with the special council's investigation and his team both legal and political teams have made a big deal about that, this they're open. he's said several times that a he would be willing to talk and willing to go under oath. and so for him to now not agree to speak with musclier willingly would be a real change and i think politically would not look very good for him. and then the flip side of that he's got to balance the political, you know, ing or not agreeing to an interview with mueller, with the possible criminal exposure. any time someone, a potential target which the president is certainly of the obstruction investigation and likely also of the russia probe, any time that a potential target agrees to speak with federal investigators, even if they're not

. - i was one of them, i was a trade official in the clinton administration. i sold nafta, i sold the round. you know i was out there pushing it, we oversold the upside, we undersold the dislocations that are involved. and if you went out right now and you asked the average american, was nafta a success? they'd say oh no, but nafta was a huge success. it created many, many jobs. it created much, much growth. and if you really want a stabilized population flows you want the mexican economy to do well. - [narrator] unions in particular have been vocal in demonizing nafta, claiming it has undermined their collective bargaining power and led to stagnant or declining wages. - we were afraid that it would accelerate outsourcing of good jobs mostly to mexico. but that also it established a set of rules that were not good for democracies because it elevated the in investor estate dispute settlement which was the first time that was ever put into a trade agreement. it protects corporate interests and it leaves workers in the environment vulnerable. and our view is that

evil under george bush from prior to that to the failures of the agreed framework when the clinton administration thought the regime would collapse and we're playing waiting games and waiting games but this is been the forgotten piece and we've been waiting far too long for peace on the korean peninsula and my greatest hope right now is that the international committee could community coming together in south korea south and north talking and dialogue happening around the world that maybe we can take this off the plate as a centric u.s. issue and make it an international issue and support the efforts of south and north coming together in korea to finally have the kinds of negotiations that they agreed to in writing in two thousand and seven they said the current arm assist regime will be ended and will build a permanent peace regime and they agreed to both work on that and to get the international community and the u.s. involved in that that's what central at this time and the armistice regimen of a temporary ceasefire a stablish permanent peace so we're not wondering about violence during the ol

former clinton administration official peter edelman argued u.s. courts are using fines and fees to exploit the economically impoverished. federal judge john newman reflected on his career first as a prosecutor and now as a federal appellate judge, and christopher scalia son of the late supreme court justice antonin scalia shared selection from his fathers speeches. in the coming weeks on "after words" republican national committee spokesperson will report on the grassroots populist movement in the u.s. black lives matter cofounder will discuss the birth and growth of improvement. this weekend on "after words" women's march in washington cochair reflects on the 2017 march and what's ahead for the movement. >> we felt bad, the democratic party of democrats in general were too busy focusing on vote for us because we're not them. vote for us because they are racist. vote for us because they are the deplorable spec that's not how people are moved and i think about often, unmoved by things i care about. unmoved by communities that i love. i am moved by

well you know what donald trump is doing he's borrowing a page from the clinton administration and george w. bush when they apply really what i would amount to call genocidal types saying sions on iraq you know you had a situation where eight thousand iraqis were dying every month according to the u.n. from the absence of food and medicine that's what donald trump wants china and russia to agree to today they want to starve the korean people in the north they want to deprive them of medicine they want to deprive them of that which is necessary for civilian life as if then the north korean government will say great will give up our nuclear weapons i mean the north korean government would do just the opposite it's an irrational approach it won't work it's a catastrophe and i think the people of the of the region and people in korea and hopefully russia and china will reject it to what extent can north and south korea find a sort of a middle ground and find peace between themselves on the road and to what extent they need outside assistance well they don't need any assistance in fact north k

. >> dan glickman during the clinton administration, he was once the designated survivor. >> it has to be somebody who could serve as president, it can't be somebody who was born abroad. >> that's correct. >> kate, you see the first lady of the united states, tell us about her special guests. >> this is a big moment for her. her special guests consist of veterans, family averaged by ms-13, the gang. also that police officer that cnn did a story on who adopted a baby born to a heroin-addicted mother he met in the line of duty. people who are going to reflect probably some of the content that the president speaks to tonight. unemployment, gang violence, opioid crisis, et cetera. >> under ronald reagan, a gentleman who work the for the government named lenny scutnik, dove into the potomac river to save the survivor of a plane crash, honored by ronald reagan fare his heroism. since then presidents have used special guests in the first lady's box to discuss different agenda items. >> the president by the way, as is the tradition jake and kate, will mention many of these special guests durin

. >> dan glickman was the secretary of agriculture during the clinton administration. he was once the designated survivor as well. >> it has to be somebody that could serve as president, so it can't be somebody that was born abroad. >> that's correct. that's why elaine chao, for example, could not be a designated survivor as well. let me bring kate back in. kate, you see the first lady of the united states. tell us a little bit about her special guests. >> this is a big moment for her. her special guests consist of veterans, family affected by ms-13, the gang. and also that police officer that cnn did a story on last year who adopted a baby born to a heroin-addicted mother he met in the line of duty. really people who are going to refle reflect some of the content the president speaks to tonight. >> it's a tradition that began under ronald reagan when a gentleman who worked for the government named lenny skutnik dove into the potomac river to save the survivor of a plane crash. he was honored by ronald reagan several days later, and since then presidents have used spec

loose structure with the media and reporters had really wonderful access with people in the clinton administration. president bush always started on time and always ended on time if not really. he rose every morning at the same time worked out every day, debt. disciplined person in white house we communicated with each other had a controlled access to the media and communicated those things. the obama administration from the outside also reflected his style and one-on-one kinds of interviews. i got a sense that he preferred the one-on-one discussions with people rather than a group of people clamoring with hands up to put questions out. it's and agree with his personality and style. you try to find virtues in this style of the person you're dealing with to try to bring out the best in major communications goal. i think this white house reflects the personality and style, and some good and bad ways. we didn't have social media and largely didn't exist or in such an event formed by the end of the bush administration we didn't have to be able to apply record-keeping to tweets or let alone twitter. th

this one in particular with the clinton administration. ave generations of people who have been stuck in the prison system and unable to enter the workforce. the administration is helping those individuals stay out of prison and reenter the workforce to become productive members of society. this is really big for the country. charles: the koch brothers plan starts wednesday. safe streets and second chances in four states. i think it's great news. it's shocking because it's coming from people when were told were racist and they were going to throw everybody in jail and lock the key and throw it away. >> this is exciting news. i think we have seen democrats and republicans try to get it done last time and it got blocked in the house of representatives. this started as a war on drugs created at the end of the nixon presidency. now we have to work on solving it. but here is the problem with trump policy. it's going to be about the implementation. who will be implementing it? a lot of this work will happen at the justice department. you have att

and the broken deal with the clinton administration 94. >> i remember it well. n the bush administration during the six party talks. there are many frustrations. president trump is set the table and secretary of state tillerson talked about the days of the strategic plans are over. when a new process in regards to economic, political, military building up the capabilities to deal with it. i applaud the president for putting us in this position. now the responsibility is on the press shoulders of the president south korea. >> eric: will see if it leads to something. it's good to see. >> arthel: attorney general, jeff sessions getting bipartisan blowback for cracking down on states that allow the legal sale of marijuana. a live report from the latest state to legalize recreational pot. >> we intend to keep on with our operations. we are state license, locally supported cannabis business plus...what if this happened again? i was given warfarin in the hospital, but wondered, was this the best treatment for me? so i made a point to talk to my doctor. he told me about

trump administration tonight, threatening to withhold hundreds of millions of dollars in military aide to the country for supporting te terrorism. and newly released e-mail showing hill h hillary clinton e huma abedin. with classified e-mails to her yahoo! accounts. >> but first our top story, trump administration ramping up pressure on iran as the country is roiled by antigovernment protest, thousands have taken to streets over past 6 days to protest a dismal economy, rising inflation, and unemployment and allegations of widespread corruption. president trump is praising the protesters for finally acting against the what he calls a brutal and corrupt regime. >> it takes great bravery for iranian people to use the power of their voice against the government. reporter: from u.n. mission to state department. to the white house. unified front in support of iran ran people in throws of an uprising. >> years of mismanagement, corruption, have eroded the iran iranian people trust in their leader, they spend its people's wealth on spreading militancy and terror abroad rather than ensuring prosperity at home. reporter: white house is called. -- on-line and on air with president trump himself

alison: continuing with priorities, during the clinton administration, extreme violence broke out in the bosnian region with the breakup of yugoslavia. it was kind of the last gasps of the cold war. the americans were very much involved in the peace process in dayton, ohio. the dayton accord ended that war. the region was a hot spot, and the secretary of state, madeleine albright, was aware of what was going on in the region. katie: she was. she managed the response in coordination with some of her foreign minister counterparts, and she held an almost daily conference call with the foreign ministers. and she later termed it conference call diplomacy to help manage the conflict. and they coordinated and worked quite well together. at the end of secretary albright's tenure in january of 2001, she and her conference call diplomacy counterparts gathered for dinner in paris to celebrate the end of secretary albright's tenure. and of course, she was presented with gifts. this spectacular russian porcelain coffee set was a gift by the russian foreign minister. and as you can see, on each of

happened during the clinton administration at a happened during this one is the attorney general gets his way and with the 10th amendment i don't think it will work. they want to put first-time drug offenders and with hardened criminals. t there's a thing called the valid work are worker where you have a kid the runs were from school and the only reason he or she is in trouble is because of their age. you want to throw them in with hardened criminals and keep them locked up like that's a good way to createrd c another one and i don't think that's wise policy. >> host: talk about the drug problem in the united states. yesterday at the white house hears what he had to say. >> we have a tremendous massive drug problem and drug population and we have dealers all over the country and we are hitting them hard, the dealers. the dealers are beingng hit hard but what they have done the families and what they are doing to the country is something that we are very focusedt on whether it's opioids or whether it's drugs as you hear the traditional sense. much of it coming to the southern border. p

[inaudible conversations] up next on tvs "after words" tv "after words" former clinton administration official and georgetown law per esser peter edelman argues the courts are charging excessive fines and fees for crimes. he's interviewed by georgia congressman hank johnson. congressman johnson serves on the judiciary committee and is a member of the property

did it over obamacare in two thousand and thirteen it had been done previously during the clinton administration and it's being done now and i think you know depending on where you sit you may think that dach is such an important issue that the democrats are right to do this other people thought obamacare was such an important issue and should be repealed that the republicans were right so it's really a question comes down to where you sit on the partisan spectrum as to whether you think this kind of tactic is worth it or not and democrats certainly feel that dhaka is such a key emotional issue and that there is so much support even amongst republicans for making sure that these quote unquote dreamers who are brought here as children are protected that they feel that they're in the right to do this and they're unwilling to go along with republicans opening the government and then saying we'll deal with dhaka later ok we will have to leave it in new york thanks very much for joining us the u.s. is. restraint in this operation against kurdish fighters in northern syria or soldiers of ends of the e

because clearly what happened with the clinton administration, the bush administration, the obama administrationdn't work. the problem with north korea has only gotten worse over the years. and so president trump is clearly trying something different. he's sending a message that we're not going to back down, we're not going to fall with these games and fake olive branches. he did exactly that today. >> so there's nothing wrong with a new administration trying something different, but you said nobody wants war here. when the president sends out a tweet like this, how does he know if there's a button that exists on kim jong-un's desk, that he won't press it and say, look, mine works too? this is a paranoid regime that's power hungry. how does he know they won't react with action? >> the only thing that kim is going to react to is self-preservation. i think this is a very clear signal. >> frankly i'm surprised that you can be so forceful about understanding the logic of kim jong-un, which has baffled many an administration, trying to figure out the best protocol. i think normally people understand

up next on tvs "after words" tv "after words" former clinton administration official and georgetown law per esser peter edelman argues the courts are charging excessive fines and fees for crimes. he's interviewed by georgia congressman hank johnson. congressman johnson serves on the judiciary committee and is a member of the property caucus. "after words" is a weekly interview program interfering top nonfiction authors about their latest works. >> host: mr. edelman is a pleasure to be with you today to discuss your book "not a crime to be poor" the criminalization of poverty in america. >> guest: thank you congressman. i'm very glad to be here. is that mr. edelman i hope i'm not embarrassing you but i know you've got an 80th birthday coming up. you don't like 80. >> guest: well thank you for that. >> host: i just wanted to let you know happy birthday in advance. >> guest: thank you very much. it's not until january though. >> host: you have done a lot in your life and 80 years is a long time. growing up as a jewish kid in minneapolis, minnesota what was it like for you as you grew up? >

they did so with the bush administration and more massive scale with -- clinton administration too.eoul you have a government seemingly willing to negotiate. >> michael, is the whole thing that solves it, china? >> china, russia, and u.s. resolve. what is interesting about what christian said, i would like to add, kim jong-un's stepped up his nuclear testing and launches during last year of the obama administration, in hopes of getting a iran-like nuclear deal. laden with i incentive, he did t get, that he ins not likely to get it with trump. the overtures for south korea are good, they are good for international community now especially withs olympics coming up. he has hope maybe he can say this is between n me and this md man in u.s., which makes no sense when a mad man is saying that. john: is that pressure coming because sanctions are working. >> i think sanctions, and unifee thaunifeety, that even with -- unity, that nok has not been able to put a wedge between us and south korea and japan. you have that unity of purpose, that makes a dif rings. difference. kim jong-un it is cl

up next on booktv "after words," former clinton administration official argues that courts are exploiting the poor by charging excessive fines and fees for minor crimes. as a member of the out-of-pocket poverty caucus "after words" is a weekly program with guest hosts interviewing top nonfiction authors about their latest work. >> guest: >> host: mr. edelman is a pleasure to be with you today to discuss her book not a crime to be poor or the criminalization of poverty in america. >> guest: thank you, congressman. i'm veri am very glad to be her. >> host: mr. edelman, i hope i'm not embarrassing you, but i hear you've got an 80th birthday coming up. i wanted to just let you know happy birthday. >> guest: thank you very much. not until january there'll. i am a young one. >> host: you've done a lot in your life. 80 years is a long time. growing up as a jewish kid in minneapolis, minnesota; what was it like for you as you grew up? up? >> guest: we were a stalwart democratic lever family. i grew up with hubert humphrey as the mayor, and my father was a lawyer in minneapolis and was also an act

when george stephanopoulos' book came out during the clinton administration, he was basically cut off from them. it was a big deal. they basically said you are dead to us. scott mcclellan wrote the book during the bush administration. i was press secretary at the time and i was super upset. washington loves a story. americans dig into it. one of the things president bush called me into the oval office and set i hear you are upset but i don't want you to worry about it. i said, can i throw you under the bus? he said i want you to believe me. no one is going to think about this in two weeks. one of the things that's positive for republicans and one thing that could be trouble ahead. the severing of ties between president trump and steve bannon is probably good for continued cooperation for the type of accomplishments greg was a little into. if you don't have the constant pushing from bannon, you allow them to work together. you probably don't have to worry about steve bannon trying to primary those incumbent senators. the thing i think that was eye-opening about the excerpt greg is refe