if you look at everything since the clinton administration, it hasn't been good for the african-american community. the african-american community has to take -- will look at itself for change. the wholennot change destiny for a group of people. change has to start within, sir. that's all i'm saying. i know you work for the urban league, and i appreciate what you do, sir. if peoplekind of like are not getting along in the community, there will never be any peace. i think it is the mass media and propaganda that spread it out to the masses of the black community that promote ignorance. host: that's james in florida. guest: let me just quickly respond. i think that there is ample, overwhelming evidence that's been reported from our own intelligence community that russia engaged in a pattern and practice of activities to try to interfere in our american election. we also know from revelations made just yesterday that foreign actors are seeking to impact the 2018 election cycle. i am not in a position to disagree with them. how can i disagree or watch it i disagree with these preliminary fin

i know what it was like during the carter and clinton administrations when, in fact, there were veryetailed and very well prepared meetings of the various principles that were involved in decision making. and i think that it's unclear at the moment how that works. president trump seems to just kind of make decisions or tweet before that kind of consultation has taken place. john bolton is somebody that has not always exhibited collegiality when he's been in the government before. so i think everybody is going to wait to see what happens, because what is really needed, christiane, it's one thing to respond to this horrific attack, and it should be responded to militarily, but it needs to be done within some kind of a strategy. and we truly do not know what the strategy is, since last week president trump was saying that he was going to withdraw troops and now he's kind of -- we have no idea what direction it's going. and so i will be very interested also to the extent that an outsider can follow the decision making process to see how a strategy is formulated, what has to be happening

despite the criticism, it is really just the clinton administration on twitter. >> explain why he keeps he will influence the investigation are can he just not help himself? >> i think you also need to understand, he is speaking to the public more than speaking to sessions. he is speaking to congress. it is a unique situation. if there is going to be a -- an impeachment, the jury's in the house of representatives. he is working the jury when he does this. there might not be a republican house by the time it comes around and going on here in new york, we might see the house flip and if it does, the president has to be very careful what he says. >> one that was fired was fbi .gent pierce give us the initial reaction to that. >> it had to be inevitable for the credibility of the fbi. we saw him and at least his girlfriend, senior officials in the preliminary trump investigation during the election when they were trying to keep him from being the nominee. he showed a willingness to take action to stop him from being president of the united states. that was a determination of the department

it's-- the clinton administration acknowledged that. i mean, everyone knew that something had to be done about 212 a-4 about public charge provisions and it's about time we do it. but as i say, do it properly. >> with the regulatory-- >> lawful, everyone can comment on it. i'm sure we'll get thousands and thousands of comments. that's fine. this is a big deal and i welcome the comments that we're going to get on this. when the reg comes out, you'll see it. it's-- again, there's nothing malevolent or diabolical in it. it's a sincere, good-faith attempt to interpret what that provision means. and you'll all see. >> now, once an immigrant becomes a citizen, can their citizenship be stripped by u.s. cis? >> of course, section 340-- well, not by cis. people can be denaturalized. i mean, that's a provision of the law. i think it's 340, that there's civil denaturalization and criminal denaturalization. those are tools that the government has had for ages and the agency itself, u.s. cis can't do that. if we want to denatural someone-- >> not fo

rubin contributing editor of politico, he served as assistant secretary of state during the clinton administration and our own tanya breyer around the table. james, it's been a week that investors hoped for a break through on trade talks the first discussion between beijing and washington in two months, and then president trump effectively pouring cold water on it. let's suggest that any break through will come at a much higher level and it will be president trump himself that makes some sort of outcome or break through on trade >> i'm confident if there is going to be a break through on trade with china it will come with president trump's direct involvement. he enjoys the process of making a deal the problem is he has not been able to make many deals with the chinese. instead things have gone the other way. we've seen breakdowns rather than breakthroughs if the time comes when china is prepared to make moves, which i think the whole world recognizes that much of the blame for this difficulty will rest on china's practices, whether they be central government practices or actual market impediments,

plugs with slices, with every kind to make it perfect and then it was repainted in the bill clinton administration. >> is this stone house here to stay? >> i think so. i don't think a president would ever leave. >> in the sense of the conservation. >> it's lovingly cared for. there's a whole staff of building people and you have the national park service that's been the stewards of it. it's watched very carefully. he called out fire department to shoot the hose so he didn't have to paint it. >> the great thing is there's always more stories. we have to end. you know the expression is always if these stones could talk. you've managed to make the stones talk in your new book. >> thank you. >> thank you for telling the story. >>> also a former white house executive pastry chef on working under five presidents. that's all tonight. coming up tomorrow we'll have live coverage as former white house press secretaries join a discussion with current white house correspondents and presidential historian john meachum to talk about george h.w. bush, andrew jackson and franklin d. roosevelt. live coverage from

this was during president clinton administration. they had just found the blue dress. it was a very tense time for the president and his wife. i remember, thinking how difficult it must of been for them to sit there in that crowd that had just come out. and going home in the taxi, issa daddy, tell me how do we as christians, deal with things like that. he said according to the testament, our job is to love. the holy spirit job taken biggs. . this life is very short. asked what was the greatest time -- surprise of life. he said the gravity of it. there is to time i thought that i was dying. i'm her when i'm in hospital, tonight in the hospital, i thought i was dying. my whole life came before me. i didn't say to the lord, i'm a preacher, i preached to many people. i have said i am a sinner. i still need your forgiveness. i still need your cross. and i asked the lord. to give me peace. thatd a wonderful piece has a let me till this day. .e were absolutely overwhelmed >> it was touching. to get an and drive from asheville to charlotte. there were not hundreds but thousand

under 7 and a half years or clinton administration we have allowed national parks to deteriorate to dramatic degree. that's an indictment of the present administration and not indictment of congress for not providing sufficient funds and not coming with innovative ideas to preserve crown jewel of america which is park system. there's a careful balance between role of government and the interference and the lives of individuals where it comes to safety, where it comes to the environment, yes, we have to have activist role for government but we can't have an overleaning, big-brother kind of bureaucracy that intrudes and interferes in people's lives, there's a careful balance to be maintained unless you get special money out of warrant we will not maintain, i know i have to sign books. [inaudible] >> thank you very much. [applause] president clinton and senator lieberman and i asked about a study not about censorship but what the effect or whether there was marketing of sexually explicit and violent material to children, okay, it was nothing to do with censorship, nothing to do with censorship,

there was an attempt in the 90's -- in the 1990's under the clinton administration shortly after the passage of the welfare reform act in 1996 which brought the issues to a head. to put out relation that would define that and find what it meant. it was dropped. in its place, a memo was issued that -- a very short memo that said adjudicators when looking at this to determine if someone is a public charge should only consider whether they received cash benefits. everything else is off table. -- off of the table. what we want to do is issue proper regulations, open to full public comment, the full gamut, the full regulatory process to at long last interpret what that means. congress passed that forever ago. it has been sitting on the books. it is hardly ever enforced. if the law is to mean anything, and the will of congress is to mean anything, we should enforce it. it should not be a dead letter. we should enforce it. i think the regulation we are working on is very rational and when you all in the public see it, and as i say you will have full opportunity to comment, it will be a mult

the clinton administration act knowledge that --acknowledged that. it is about time we do it. as i say, do it properly. ms. vaughan: in a regulatory way. dir. cissna: lawfully. everyone can comment on it. i'm sure it could thousands of comments but that is fine. it is a big deal. i welcome the comments that we will get on this. when it comes out, you will see it. there is nothing malevolent or just acal in it, it is sincere, good faith attempt to interpret what that provision means. you will all see. ms. vaughan: once an immigrant becomes a citizen, can their citizenship be stripped by uscis ? dir. cissna: of course. cis.on 340 -- not by bd naturalized. several the naturalization -- de naturalization tools the government has had for ages. the agency itself cannot do that. ralize --t to denatu public charge nasa ability arises that the visa window or the application for adjustment and the country. ms. vaughan: not naturalization. dir. cissna: right. on that point of the d , there has been a lot of press recently that completely misunderstands what my agency has been doing on de

. >> jimmy: you were the white house correspondent for cnn during the clinton administration, correct> yes. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: it is different. >> i spent seven years as the white house correspondent during the clinton administration. very lively seven years. right now i'm an anchor, so i'm not a white house correspondent, but obviously we all report on what's going on at the white house. it's been a very slow news cycle lately. i don't know if you've noticed. >> jimmy: there are no news cycles anymore. it just keeps roaring and roaring, doesn't it? >> it's been crazy. >> jimmy: yeah, it has been really crazy. is this something that -- obviously people are paying more attention to the news. is this good or bad for the news business? >> well, we want people to watch obviously cnn. we want people to know what's going on. our job as journalists, as reporters is to report the news as fairly, as responsibly as accurately as we possibly can. we know we're the first draft of history, meaning that occasionally we'll make a mistake and if we do we correct it as soon as possible. but that's

and before this, patrick and i were talking a little bit about we were both in the clinton administration at the time the wto was created. in fact, were actually both in geneva. this was not a smooth process creating this thing called the wto. there were a lot of concern members of the public. but yeah, most of us at this time were quite up to mistake, particularly about the prospects of bringing china into some kind of international trade agreement we could see some potential risks, but we could see the potential upside. i thought i would start with that issue 25 years later i guess. what has been the upshot of all of that? do you think that has met our expert patients in terms of bringing china into the wto and opening up trade? >> i first went to china in 1981. china was a poverty-stricken country. they had what they called their humiliation were their whole civilization was taken over and crushed by western powers beginning with the opium war, a second opium war, the fall of the emperor the japanese invasion. the whole thing fell apart. took control of 49 and tried to build an economi

this hadn't happened in previous administrations, in the bishop or clinton or obama administration.nt was fixated and had dozens of employees sign these agreements that said they could not make any information public about their time in the white house and the lawyer, don mcgahn, said these

strategy plan when i was in the clinton administration that involved looking at science and technology development at nasa f.a.a. the department of defense and so this is these are the big chunks of the budget along with department of energy where science and technology is developed this is he does very good for science and technology development to pick an education community in the united states but also we also are interested in trying to make sure that we also take care of what we need to do in developing. new frontiers where we have to do national security protections and really when you look at it when you look at the united states is about protecting its assets its military assets but all that is behind a whole load of twaddle i can't believe those are going along and in saying these types of things no i disagree i disagree and i think it's absolutely incredible jamie say i just that this is about technology when you're clearly the price president said this is about warfare let and i'm talking about and sent. by the man just i have to disagree with that because i'm talking about

there is presidents in our past, the clinton administration slashed and burned in a significant way.uttered a lot of embassies, we surrendered a lot of influence. we ended up shuttering two government agencies devoted to information and arms control, priorities we could use more experts on right now and, therefore, went into the post 9/11 world already badly handicapped in this respect. we have not learned the lesson in the past. indeed we are doubling down on those mistakes. >> to the idea that the president of the united states has a right to try to seek a better deal and that he campaigned on ripping up this deal, so to speak, how credible is it to you that a presidential campaign is run on americans thinking he's going to do something about the iran deal? is that even credible? >> you know, donald trump, like many politicians before him, invoked a strain of nationalism that is often set against the work of diplomats and the work of foreign policy. and that is profoundly damaging and also unfair and abusive towards public servants who are brave men and women doing life-saving work

then it was repainted in the bill clinton administration. that's how it's conserved. >> so is this stone house here to stay? >> i think so. i don't think a president would ever leave. >> but in the sense of the conversation? >> yeah it's here to stay because it's lovingly cared for. i mean there's a whole staff of building people here then you have the national park service that had been the stewards of it now since franklin roosevelt 33. and no, it's watched very carefully. and of course there's secret service all around watching. anything that is going wrong is fixed. so it's very carefully maintained. more so than the days of general grant when he called out the fire department to hoot the hose on the house and clean it so he wouldn't have to paint it. >> the great thing about you is there's always great stories but unfortunately we have to end. latest book a white house of stone, building america's first secular architecture. the oldest expression is, if these stones could talk. you've managed to make the stones talk in your new book. >>

jack quinn joins us, former white house counsel for the clinton administration. two good voices to have with us this morning. jim, if you were in your old job, with the trump legal team, would you be concerned about the fact that mcgahn gave 30 plus hours of testimony to mueller's team over three days? >> what you have to understand is that that was part of the initial strategy by ty cobb and john dowd, turning over 1.4 million white house documents, having numerous white house employees go before the mueller team and be interviewed. that was their strategy, to cooperate as much as possible, get as much information out there as possible. >> i get it, jim. i know that was the strategy. do you -- i get that was the strategy. dowd is sticking by the strategy, saying this was great for us. but do you, counselor, think it's a good strategy? would you be a little bit shaking in your boots this morning if you are sitting on the white house legal team? >> i don't think i'm shaking in my boots if i'm sitting in the white house legal team. you have seen a shift in perspect

so he probably went back and said, i told him. >> not to just talk about the clinton administration, but why not? during these periods where he would have these fusses going on i remember one time going over there and having an interview with doug sosnic who was a senior political adviser. i sat down with him and he paused and he said, am i supposed to be mad at you about something? and i said, well -- and he couldn't remember -- >> what he was supposed to be mad about. >> but you knew something -- >> did you remind him? >> no. i said i don't know what it could possibly be. but we have all had these fusses, i think john sununu and the chief of staff for president bush the father was a difficult chief of staff to get along with. many times he would have ed rogers who would do the calling and complaining. there was always that adversarial relationship. i think what bothers us now is we are to the point where an administration is undermining the institution of the media by undermining our credibility in general. >> do you think that's the case and do you think there would be lasting cha

the reagan administration, clinton administration, bush in eachration, served of those, except the reaganruation or even the obama administration tried it in 2012, what hillary clinton called it, crippling sanctions. episode very similar where the iranian currency experienced a sharp depreciation with inflation in terms of percentage terms today, it was actually a sharp and depreciation back in 2012. seen it time that the government of iran not only survived each one of the tests the united states imposes on it but it in fact gets stronger internally with internal cohesion, and stronger in terms of the ability to project influence throughout the region. those in the trump administration who think they can really slam iran, i think theireed to look back at own records, many in the reagan administration when the efforts were tried and failed. >> we have seen massive protests in iran. could it make the difference? >> we have seen protests for many years. back in 2012, the most recent effort -- episode which looks similar to this one were president obama imposed crippling sanctions. we saw a

the world that we're in -- i just want you to imagine, but can you imagine if this were the clinton administrationwas happening? what do you think you'd be sitting here saying as a republican? >> i don't think we'd be talking about this if this was happening under the obama administration -- >> under clinton, if all these people were charged and pleaded guilty? >> but we would be bringing it up, republicans we would never let this stand if this was going on. there's another channel that dedicates like hours of their prime time programming still relitigating hillary clinton who lost and what the clintons have done since 25 freaking years ago, so there's no way republicans would ever allow this if a fraction of what trump's people have done. >> we knew about his past with women, about his past with business, we knew about a lot of things he did in the past. at the end of the day -- >> even surrounding himself with sketchy people? >> that is new revelation? >> let her finish her thought. >> the reality is people knew the kind of person he was and the people we surrounded himself and he still won. in

president called over 25 heads of state with germany and all of the european countries and in the clinton administrationd the iran libyan sanction act. we putç that out. present trump is now employing. with the nine u.s. companies that were doing business with iran. we got compliance with that. but the new reality is twofold. one it may be that the trump administration would not waive sanctions already 100 european accompanies are announcing plans to pull out of iran and second, and this is completely new. they amended their so-called blocking legislation. which bars compliance with those u.s. sanctions. between a rock and a hard place. it's almost like going back to the islamic resolution which was violent and horrific and we have the u.s. embassy hostages thereç it's almost going back to that where our allies are not exactly gung ho on that. i guess i understand in part because they have gone ahead and signed the nuclear deal with the united states and present trump said you know it's not working. what now happens because you've actually got companies within these countries like nestlÉ, mercedes, we

strategy plan when i was in the clinton administration that involved looking at science and technology development at nasa f.a.a. the department of defense and so those are these are the big chunks of the budget along with department of energy where science and technology is developed this is he does very good for science and technology development to pick an education community in the united states but also we also are interested in trying to make sure that we also take care of what we need to do in developing. new frontiers of where we have to do national security protections and really when you look at it when you look at the united states is about protecting its assets its military assets but all that is behind a bill load of twaddle i can't believe those who are out going along and and saying these types of things no i disagree i disagree and i think it's absolutely incredible and jamie say i just that this is about ten dollars.

he also has the reference point of the bill clinton, you know, administration and the white water investigation president trump was aware of this level of transparency or this commitment of cooperation with the mueller team to this extent that would equate to some 30 hours of don mcgahn talking to the mueller team. >> so we don't know. you know, on the one hand, i would be shocked if the president weren't, if a lawyer for the white house would go in and voluntarily waive these privileges and divulge confidential information without the president knowing about it, i'd be shocked about that. on the other hand, i expressed concern as i saw this playing out even that i'm not sure the president would have understood the implications, the potential ramifications of it fully or he might have had pause about allowing his white house counsel to do this. >> so, the president's personal attorney, rudy giuliani, tweeted a few moments ago, still unclear whether it's direct response to this "new york times" reporting or if it's just timing, saying, "time for mueller investigation to file report. we will rele

go back to the clinton administration. clinton did not like janet reno. he didn't trust her, but he bit the bullet, and he didn't fire her because he understood that the political consequences of firing her, the perception that he was trying to interfere in the investigation by kenneth starr would outweigh the benefits of having a new attorney general. and i think the same thing is true with this president. i think on reconsideration, it would have been far better to keep everybody in place, maybe add to the team, as he's done by adding flood and others. but the idea of firing or allowing to resign raises all kinds of risks, both for the president, but also basically for the administration of justice. >> david gergen, you have noted that don mcgahn has been a white house counsel of enormous importance and influence. >> absolutely. and one of the most effective people in the white house at doing the big job that he came to do. and that was to help recruit, shepherd through a great number of judges who would meet conservative standards and would be regarded

lou: that's an ironic position for lockheart to take coming from the clinton administration. ly forgot about his old boss, president clinton, lied about and later admitted to, well, affairs and that sort of thing. you remember the details. no need to burden anyone with that. >>> joining us tonight, ed rollins, former reagan white house political director, great america pac chairman, fox business analyst and savant. michael goodwin, savant, pulitzer prize-winning columnist, fox news contributor. >> thank you. lou: little irony, michael, lockheart comes out of obscurity to talk about credibility? that's laughable beyond belief. >> yeah, especially given the seriousness of events that happened while he was part of the clinton white house. and part of the press secretary's office, he went off on the press secretaries, shaun spieser and sarah huckabee sanders, accused them of lying all the time too. this is indeed rich coming from the clinton campaign. the clinton team themselves. clintons themselves. what is it about the clintons that is distinctive? well, they don't tell the trut

the clinton administration was able to bring a sanction regime against iran.ought them to the table. the president has acted in such a funeral -- unilateral fashion that he has made the united states the pariah in that group and not iran. that is a mistake. we need to make sure that we act in a diplomatic way if we are going to have sanctions that will really have teeth. that is something that. president trump has shown no interest in doing. : yet the president wants to sit down with present rouhani. -- president rouhani. have another agreement that encompasses all the issues you just raised? is an examplerea of that, i'm not too optimistic. i'm waiting to see what exactly we got out of our sit-down with the dictator of north korea. president trump has this habit of ratcheting up tensions, bashing a foreign dictator, and then, six months later, sitting down and talking to him, achieving nothing but a photo op, and then declaring success and suddenly the world is at peace. that is what his interest is in tehran.g in i don't exactly see what that would achieve.

i worked in the clinton administration during the monica lewinsky scandal when he first said he neverh her and we found out that that was a lie. i learned very early on in politics that this is a cutthroat world and you have to be tough. 20 years in the white -- in politics and i've learned some lessons. number one, you have to look out for yourself. and two, things change. relationships change. and people always protect themselves. you have to look out for yourself. >> there are conflicting reports as to when you first heard the tape where the president allegedly uses the n word. there are reports that you heard this last year while you were still working in the administration -- >> i didn't hear it last year. >> when did you first hear it? >> i did not hear it until i closed the book and i had an opportunity to fly out to california and the person allowed me to hear it. had i heard it while i was working in the white house, i would have left immediately. >> so let's say the tape exists. now what? what is the purpose of -- so the tape comes out, we hear it. what do you hope will come

bush and bill clinton administrations. john mcconnell served more than 10 years on the white house staff and two administrations. as a senior speechwriter for george w. bush and dick cheney, john was part of a team responsible for all the presidents major addresses. the bush/cheney white house he held a unique position to the president and assistant to the vice president. in his career he has worked as a principal speechwriter for vice president dan quayle, bob dole and paul ryan. june shih began her career as a reporter for a florida newspaper. she left to assist the first lady hillary clinton with her syndicated newspaper column and speeches. in 1997 june shih became a special assistant to the president and presidential speechwriter writing for bill clinton on a range of issues from civil rights and racial relations to education and healthcare policy. june shih went on serving as chief speechwriter for miss clinton's campaign in 2000. she will be joining the nyu family this fall as communications director at nyu. tonight

bruce ohr is a clinton administration higher up. and he is friend with christopher steele. the guy who authored the russian dossier. his wife was a contractor for fusion gps also in 2016. many republicans claiming ohr may be the link between the dossier and anti-trump bias at the doj and the fbi. before the hearing. catherinecatherineherridge triee answers from ohr and here is what happened. >> did anyone within the justice department know you were contacting the fbi on behalf of christopher steele? did you communicate to the fbi. guy: i thought his answers were terrific. is bruce ohr the bogeyman here? let's talk about bruce ohr. it's hard to sometimes talk about all the figures in this drama. the two key allegations against republicans are number one he was in contact with christopher steele funneling information through steel to the doj after steele effectively had been fired by the fbi for lying and breaking protocol. and secondly, bruce ohr failed to disclose on financial documents that his wife was in the employ of fusion gps. i'm wondering how the serious you think t

they were both mentored by eric holder in the 1990s when holder was working in the clinton administration'srtment. they were junior prosecutors in washington, d.c. and virginia. they work side-by-side in early 2000's on an investigation. both attended a large number of top-secret briefings together. comey has said that robert mueller was the one person in government he could confide in. they been described as brothers in arms. how convenient for lockheed martin that just at the moment where it hides the former deputy eight attorney general which include supervision of the fbi, james comey happens to be the fbi director. what an incredible coincidence that shortly after they gave lockheed martin a $300 million deal to develop a program. what a further astonishing coincidence that they worded lockheed martin oh 1 billion-dollar contract for biometrics surveillance program called the next generation identification system. lockheed martin were extremely grateful to james comey for presiding over these incredible and highly lucrative coincidences. according to documents filed in congress, one co

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since the clinton era the presidential administration has to become more closed, more secretive. and that's the end after era. they're less and less willing to spoke for the record. increasely rely on background quotes in an era that pre-dates president trump. for all of his dust trust with the press, bill clinton's administration was generally easier to find people to talk to generally relay information. there were scandals and during the lewinsky scandal, bill clinton would tell different aides different things it seemed as if he couldn't quite remember who he told what to. that's a standout. but more often than not, there was a concern among his staff about their own credibility and the information they were imparting to reporters. the bush white house, which i did not cover, has been described by colleagues who did as almost hermetically sealed, incredibly difficult and hard to penetrate. in the day-to-day there was not really misinformation, but a lot of inaccessibility. the obama white house was a combination of these traits. the on the one hand they tried to focus on the i

era, the clinton administration has to be more closed and secretive. they are less and less willing to speak for the record and communicate with journalists. distrust in the -- there were obvious exceptions such as scandals, and during the monica scandal, bill clinton would tell different aids different things. different things. there was a concern around his staff of their own credibility and what they were reflecting to reporters. beenush white house has described as very difficult to penetrate. in the day to day, there was not misinformation but there was inaccessibility. the obama white house was a combination. on one hand, they focused on the appearance of a more transparent administration but they played favorites and lied more than they would ever knowledge. -- then they would ever acknowledge. i spoke with an obama white -- thefficial obama white house also yelled a lot. it is important to remember the obama administration went after subpoenaingleaks, phone records. it did not spark an outcry at the time. that white house started to move toward

since the clinton air after, the clinton administration has to become more focused and more secrettive. .nd and increasing reliance and donald trump. for all of the distrust, bill clint op was able to penetrate information. there is scappedals during the ewinsky scandal. bush white house which i did not ver and and incredit apply disappointing. in the day-to-day, it wasn't misinformation, but there was a lot of inaccessibility. the obama white house is they tried to focus on the transparent administration coming on the heels of push and on the other and relied. on a column when i was at politico where i worked for a time. i spoke to an official that i approached to confirm a story that the person claimed was entirely wrong. and because i couldn't get it confirmed, i couldn't get it into print. and they used the routine processes to try to prevent the story from happening. the owe palma white house and i didn't get the coverage. as it remains something that with not had an outcry at the time. that white house started to move toward breesks of briefings that were on the background despit

i was in russia, being sent there by the clinton administration. we were very positive, very bullish on boris yeltsin. i don't think just because donald trump is a former businessman and not a lifelong politician he should have to come at this in some kind of a negative view. i believe the president wants better relations with all nations. i don't think we did -- we got a great deal out of helsinki though. >> michael caputo, thank you for taking the tough questions today. >> thank you very much. have a great day. >> we'll talk again. >>> coming up next, why cnn's exclusive poll shows that rudy giuliani's media blitz against robert mueller may be working with some americans. and the white house briefing ahead on cnn. these are live pictures from the briefing room. how will sarah sanders respond to the president's really just degrading attack on his former friend and senior adviser omarosa? we're going to take you to that press conference live. if you're turning 65, you may be learning about medicare and supplemental insurance. medicare is great, but

. >> i saw this happen in the clinton administration around impeachment.ny number of people woo never even publicly knew about were having to get lawyers. >> aaron, in your piece "the washington post" by saying mcgahn was not responsible for the firing of bob mueller or jeff sessions, it suggests either someone else was responsible or that trump came to the conclusion himself. even if trump didn't explicitly admit that he did, it suggests that trump doesn't like the perception that mcgahn forced his hand. it sort of speaks to the earlier issue why have these lawyers, why have these advisers joined in these positions? donald trump is his communications director. >> and we saw that tonight that the president in his rally in indiana, the president cleary wants us to believe that firing jeff sessions, trying to fire robert mueller is something he believes he has the authority to do. he perhaps wants them to believe this is something he might do perhaps hoping that they'll take some actions that would be more favorable towards him. but this is -- you know, the

he applauded the clinton administration's decision in 1995 to resume relations with vietnam and was aster of that. and he has even been kind of applauded by some of his vietnamese former prison wardens who've called him a good guy and said they were able to view each other as opponents on the other side of the battlefield. but brought together by their humanity. sew didn't work just across partisan lines in the halls of congress but in also international affairs as well. >> ivan watson with the world view of john mccain. thank you so much for your time, ivan. >>> well, the united nations has just published a long-awaited report on human rights abuses against myanmar's rohingya muslims. we will have a live report for you on the other side of the break. do stay with us. >>> the united nations has just issued a blistering new report about violence against the rohingya in myanmar. it says the country's top military general should be investigated and prosecuted for genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes in rakhine straight. cnn's alexandra field is tracking this story for us fro

. >> didn't we see with the clinton administration, i think it was gennifer flowers, that on the civil cases, he could have to deal with them while he is sitting. >> absolutely. the supreme court ruled i believe 9-0 that presidents do have to deal with civil suits while in office. in fact, the person who was behind the legal arguments in that case was a guy named george conway who is now the husband of kellyanne conway. >> there you go. rachel, to you. sessions punching back yesterday was a first. something happened yesterday where it was just too much for jeff sessions. the straw that broke the camel's back. you read that statement that abby went through for us, every single word is chosen so carefully. he says, i will not be improperly influenced by political -- by political motives, mr. president. what broke? >> perhaps he feels like his days are numbered and he needs to get out there on the record why he has and hasn't done certain things at the justice department that the president wants him to do. there was a firewall of protection around sessions on capitol hill. that firewall,

during the clinton administration independent counsel serving book planted with a subpoena, but it waswhere are we with the subpoena fights? going to do an interview, not going to do an interview. when is it going to happen? >> sean: i am not a lawyer, just to be clear. this is the posturing that you do ahead of time. want to make it clear what you will, what you won't do. and you lay that groundwork out there. that is clearly what rudy giuliani is doing on behalf of the president's legal case, making sure that he is publicly communicating to mueller, we are willing to do this if you give us this. but this happens behind the scenes. there's a reason that publicly they are doing it the way they are to make sure that people understand that they are willing to do it, but there are terms to do that. and it is being in a way that protects the president. as any client would want. you would never allow a client to walk into something and just let it free for all. part of this is to make sure that people who even on both sides understand why he is doing what he is doing or why he is not. >> ka

these white house white house staffers available, there is actually a precedent from the clinton administrationt it was a different case. it was related to former agricultural secretary mike sp. they go to great lengths, but they say in the editorial which is really interesting, we are applying this case. mueller cannot show any need for mr. trump's testimony that outweighs the president's interest. >> if you can make get all of e information from other sources -- >> but you can't. donald trump, did you know about the meeting in trump tower, did anyone speak to you directly, why did you fire jeff sessions? -- i meant comey, not jeff sessions, freudian slip. but do we want to know why he fired people and whether that was obstruction of justice? no one else can speak to him and those answers. do we want all the information or not as americans? >> i think the president seen what argue though from a political perspective, but he has answered all of that to the american people numerous times. i understand it hasn't been under oath. but -- >> the story changed. >> you are the lawyer on the panel, fro