bill clinton perricos. >> guest: i looked very carefully at the relationship. and then i know a great deal about the bush bellaire relationship because both of them were involved in dragging their countries into war against iraq in march of 2003. i think in both cases, but the case of tony blair and the case of george w. bush, there is evidence that they told a handful of wise to the public. there is no evidence that they told lies to each other. in paris, they worked and enhanced to drag the added states and britain into the war. >> host: did you read this before we. ♪ >> guest: i began on the book a long time ago. i got a call who was them at the new york times. international wine we never met. for some reason my name popped into is said. i am all well-known real list and someone who believes and politicking is let me to expect that states lie a lot. i thought when i first started the research there is blind evidence of leaders why all the time, and i was quite shocked that is not the case. liza told quite rarely. when i used to go around the country talking