and dan we'll make the clinton yates conversation available later on -- >> absolutely on our podcast.ion i have heard on trayvon to date. clinton knows his stuff. so follow us on twitter at bpshow. i'm also taking your comments all throughout the show at peter ogburn. so interact with us. i have the computer right here. i'm interacting all over the place. running the board today is mr. dan henning. mr. henning, hello. >> good morning. >> this is the first time i have filled in since you have been married? >> no, there was one other time. >> how is married life treating you? >> it's good. no complaints. it is the same as before. >> still the after glow. >> no it is the same as before. >> you are still in the honeymoon stage. it will stay that way forever. the best piece of advice i got when i was getting married. are you happy? yes. do you really love her? yes. then why do you want to mess that up. but that's really not the case. your life changes when you have kids. once you have kids, all bets are off. my wife is already emailing me this morning. i'm at loss as to what to do with the

clinton yates is a columnist for "the washington post." maybe that's not really what washington is all about. hey, clinton, good morning. >> good morning, bill. how are you? >> bill: welcome back in. >> great to be here. >> bill: you're looking like official washington. >> got my bad brains t-shirt on. >> shout out to clinton for the only guest to wear a bad brains t-shirt. >> old school punk band formed in d.c. from around here. you've been around here long enough, you know who they are. shout out to hr. documentary coming out about them. >> not even john stanton wears the bad brains t-shirt when it comes. >> he's going to kill me for that. john is a great guy. >> bill: he is. don't have many tattoos. >> no, nor am i six foot whatever he is. >> bill: what is the real washington? >> the reason i wrote the column that i wrote is because a lot of times, people don't understand about washington, as he said in his book, it's just the place where people live. as if that's a reasonable description of what goes on outside the federal existence wh

kevin madden, anita dunn, and clinton yates, "washington post" columnist. so, wow, that was an intense 16 minute speech by president obama. i want to ask you all what you think the purpose of that speech was. what he wanted to achieve and whether he achieved it. anita? >> i think you saw the president refer to context several times in the course of this speech. the need to give context to this discussion and i think this is something that he does as president and that he did as a candidate is to address these issues and to try to give context to both sides to try to reduce the polarization and the divide around them. and i think that as he watched the conversation unfold this week, that he felt this was an appropriate time to step forward again, it felt very spontaneous. >> it definitely felt spontaneous. i didn't feel like in this speech as opposed to other speeches that he was trying to give context to both sides. i felt that he was trying to speak as an african-american and maybe trying to explain the reaction in the african-american community to people

clinton yates from "the washington post" joins us in our next segment.ow we're talking sports and politics with travis waldron, the sports reporter for think progress. yes, think progress now covers sports. at thinkprogress.org. we're talking all things sports except we won't talk about the nationals and the tough time they had with the dodgers. >> let's please not talk about the nationals. >> bill: the last three days. but big sports news yesterday with phil mickelson winning the british open, huh? bringing it home for america. >> it was a nice win for him. i'm a tad partial to tiger woods, i admit but i was glad to see phil win. he's a great golfer. he put together a great stretch. >> bill: tiger had a great run-in until he fell apart. >> he didn't bring it home. >> i was pulling for tiger too. i would like to see him win a big one. you used to count on tiger woods having a monster last day and it was the exact opposite. he just completely fell apart yesterday. he's a total head case. >> it was sort of a role reversal. used to be tiger finished strong

joining me is clinton yates and we have also have jeffrey toobin in new york. welcome to you both. let's listen to what juror 37 said about racial profiling and the role, if any, it played in the case. >> do you think race played a role in his decision, his view of trayvon martin as suspicious? >> i don't think he did. i think just circumstances caused george to think that he might be a robber or trying to do something bad in the neighborhood because of all that had gone on previously. there were an unbelievable number of robberies in the neighborhood. >> so you don't believe race played a role in this case? >> i don't think it did. i think if there was another person, spanish, white, asian, if they came in the same situation there where trayvon was, i think george would have reacted the exact same way. >> clinton, you said you think this case is about in fact about racial profiling. here is a juror who said it was not for her. >> i don't think that zimmerman uses the word suspicious. i don't think that enters his mind unless there is some element of race involved. it's very diffic

let's begin with the center for american action fund and the "washington post's" clinton yates. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> i want to start with both of you and get your thoughts on the idea that if our criminal justice system isn't doing a good job. if there are negative feelings here about a negative situation. maybe that's logical. maybe some of the talk we've heard all week about this decline in race relations as an automatically bad thing is misplaced. let me start with you on that idea. >> well, it is very clear that yes, it makes sense. i was talking to people about this to havic on twitter before i came here. and folks were saying, what are you going to say other than duh. it is not surprising that americans in general, certainly african-americans recognizing that the criminal justice system works against them and not for them. when you have laws that are on the books being tried and treated in different ways for different groups of people, that's a problem. we need to evaluate that. >> let's jump over to clinton. a lot of people don't say duh. a lot of peopl

because having the president, no matter who the president is, raises this to a different level. >> clinton yatesdepiction that you see of black men in the media, particularly i mean the news media. how fairly does it reflect the . >> i'd say it reflects it poorly. the criminalization of black men in the media and the sexualization of black men in the media is everywhere. you live with it when you walk around. people assume one of those things are the case about you and that is something that we have to unravel on a basic presentation level in order to really get somewhere within the conversation. >> talk to me about that for a moment. president obama talked a little bit about how, look, he's felt it when people lock their doors or women clutch their bags or people look at him when he goes into a store and perhaps something nefarious might unfold he he . how is that something that the media can address? >> it's something i think in advertising is one big place you can see it. the way black men are portrayed in commercials, subliminal things that passively look at. those have big messages that a l

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. >> you know one of the things i thought was interesting is when we talked to clinton yates from "thepost" thel week, he said it is not so much having a conversation on race as it is having a conversation on profiling. it is not about looking at people as equal. like you might look at a person of another color and realize they're equal. when you see a person of color late at night that some people just can't get out of their heads they're up to no good. and that's what really needs to be addressed more than just looking at people as equal. >> bill: the difficulty -- i agree. i agree. but one difficulty with the profiling thing is i would hope and i believe i am very sensitive to these issues, right? but i have to tell you i've never experienced profiling. so in the sense i cannot relate to it. if i'm walking down the street at night wearing a hoodie or not, nobody's going to suspect me of being up to no good. right? >> exactly. >> bill: that's for the fair but it makes it again, as liberal as i am, not even i right, know what we're up against. >> the real, harder conversation to talk