clinton. which i don't think you would necessarily have seen maybe 10 years ago. they talk, if you all these republicans say nice things about president clinton's legacy, and ask one of the people quoted was wisconsin congressman paul ryan, a rising star in the gop. they say what about the fact that you impeached him? and ryan says i tried not to think about that. i think this is a good lesson for barack obama to be having right now. the reason why i wrote this book is because i had covered a little bit, the 2006 in 2008 presidential campaign for the nation and have done a lot on the ground in depth reporting. i was fascinated by the ability of democrats to do two things. one was to bring in a lot of new people into the party. and, too, was to compete in all these traditionally conservative states that nobody thought they could win. places like indiana, places like north carolina, places like virginia. you guys in arkansas have had that for a while but i think that was something that shocked a

as a we talk about bill clinton, and it took bill clinton a year to learn the lesson.ress conference saying i am still relevant. then he went off on a foreign trip. which the president is also scheduled to do. he came back and a year later passed health care reform. there's a stage of grief you have to go through to get to working with the republicans. i believe that in the end it will work for barack obama, have republicans say, okay, we want to cross the board, cutting spending. it fits in his new narrative. >> will he develop a new narrative? if the democrats believe the message is voters just don't get how great we've been. >> i think he's going to have to because he wants to continue to be president, al mitch mcconnell, the republican leader said his goal is to make barack obama a one-term president. so it's hard to work together. >> he's got to remake himself, number one. and in some form or fashion. the question is whether the republicans are going to push him into some type of a confrontation where america has to decide. a government shutdown is one thing that'

bill clinton aside went through difficulties bill clinton had in his presidency. you go through others which we would. >> the message tonight involve it is republican party which has to face the fact that the real energy is on the far right of the party. rand paul is the story tonight. not mitch mcconnell and his... >> rand paul and jim demint and others. >> it would be very difficult for them to get out from under that. no question about it. >> rose: the republican party? >> absolutely. and mitch mcconnell opposed rand paul in the primary so they have to reck within the fact that their energy is not john boehner and mitch mcconnell. >> rose: do you think the president has within him do-to-do the kind of clintonian change. what we know about him is that essentially part of his makeup? >> absolutely. but not a clintonian change. but i think he has to do what vin weber was saying which is okay, i hear this message, we agree the whole house is out of order and we're going to take seriously this deficit commission. >> john, finally, for conclusion. is there any legisl

i think i caught the moment when bill clinton after losing -- well, bill clinton is the image.or talk about photojournalism. his image was morphed onto candidate during midterm election. >> host: that was so polarizing. >> guest: well, for a number of reasons. because to now, when talks about the possible racism involved in a polarity, but in bill clinton's space you could say was because he was white. >> guest: i think it was deadly of the counterculture thing laid successfully vat at the sky that had it too soft and had avoided service same vietnam and they were all pot smokers or whatever. so there were some of that. a lot of that was the first two terms learning experiences and you need this terrible mistake in taking an old kindergarten friend as his chief of staff. secrets in terms of his private life, that he wanted a chief of staff who would respect those. and it was a terrible but they because, you know, he has a brilliant mind, but it's not a good administrative mind. you know, he needs somebody just like eisenhower during world war ii a general per delle smith as the

what president clinton -- when president clinton founded the initiatives that this wonderful work in, but of a belief that those of us who have freedom have the responsibility, a duty imposed to help others to the same freedoms we cherish and hold dear. it cannot be right that 1 million people die every year credibly from malaria. it is our duty to make sure they do not. in striving to do that, we also strive for liberty. the fifth lesson, liberty requires rules. their constitution -- your constitution, the rule of law, the rules that are predictable move fairly applied, not corrupt our laws about government. not government about law. where the global community has made a reality through information and technology, liberty requires we respect the differences. in the middle et, i see every week that i am there was conflict based on difference can do. i know in the end, whether jew or christian or muslim or any other faith, there is a common humanity, and a common need for work humanity can achieve that unites us. i want to see a world and will strive for such a world in which people a

that made clinton along with his deck calculation that big government is over and made clinton look like a moderate centrist again. the problem that obama has and this goes to your question earlier charlie, bill clinton had one thing barack obama doesn't have. by the time this happened to him in november 1994, the economy was taking off. the recession was long behind him, and the massive 90's boom was well in effect. the big locomotive of the american congress chugging along. that's not the case today. no one thinks unemployment is much different a year from now than it is today. where it will be by the summer, early fall of 2012, i don't know. but it's not going to be where it was for bill clinton and that is going to be a challenge for obama. he's going to make the argument that the trend lines are in the right direction but he doesn't have a boom on his hand. >> charlie: he grew up in a political environment which he lost and b he constantly had to appeal to a diverse rea of people running in a conservative or moderate state that south. >> big environment. >> charlie: that's a huge di

he needs to put you, hillary clinton, on the vice presidential ticket. quite -- it's being kicked around. look, it's politics. and it you look at the numbers, hillary clinton has strength with voter groups, workers, seniors, latinos, and women, and obama may need them. the white house is right, they are not talking about it now because they are worried about the november elections coming up. but after that, when they get into presidential election mode, as we know in politics, people will do anything that's legitimate to win. and sometimes thing that is are illegitimate. >> host: one of the things we are going to do is show some clips from prior books on the program. >> guest: oh my gosh. >> host: before we get to that. this is the list in front of the current book. you seem fascinated, you can attack the presidency as a journalist from many different levels. you seem to go back to the concept of presidents and the pentagon. and the leadership around the war decision. why does that aspect interest you? >> guest: because it's so important if you travel ab

i think i quote the moment when clinton after losing -- bill clinton's image, talking about photojournalism, his image was more of don to candidates during the midterm election. >> host: why was he so polarizing? >> guest: for a number of reasons. >> host: was a cultural? >> guest: because now today one talks with the possible racism involved in that plurality and but in bill clinton's case you couldn't see it was because he was white. i think there was definitely the counterculture thing that new gingrich played very successfully the idea that these people had it too soft and they had avoided service in vietnam and they were all [inaudible] but i think a lot of it was like we were saying earlier the first two terms learning experiences and she made this terrible mistake in taking an old kindergarten friend as his chief of staff we he wanted someone he could trust or to be honest he had quite a lot of secrets. in terms of his private life he wanted a chief of staff who would respect his and was a terrible mistake because he has a brilliant mind but it's not a good administrative mind. he ne

this is about the relationship between vice president gore and bill clinton. let's listen. >> vice president gore, i think very much to his credit, and to clinton's credit, but i was surprised to hear that gore, in a moment of frustration, when clinton asked him what do i do about selling and making the decisions on this economic plan, gore said to him, you get with a got dam program. that's frank and candid talk. from anyone. i've never heard any vice president speaking that frankly to the president. and as i say, it's frank and direct them at the same time it's to clinch but that he will let people talk to him, candidate because the president needs somebody who will speak the truth. >> host: let's fast forward to this present because joe biden plays a major role in your book. was the relationship between the two? >> guest: very much the same. there's an important scene on these obama's strategy into position. and afghanistan last year. where biden shows up at the white house when he knows president obama is going from residence down to the oval office in the

a two volume biography about bill clinton. and, of course, bernard, montgomery, you certainly that up with the eisenhower. so you brought all of that into this enterprise. >> guest: i thought i had a handle. the real advantage, i felt i had in relation to my colleagues in the united states was that i had actually grown up in and detained british empire. born in 1944. churchill was still dreaming of holding on to india. african colonies. one of the most fascinating things about fdr in my chapter is the way that fdr basically tells churchill that it's no go . >> host: it's interesting. you portrayed churchill with all of his heroic qualities, larger than life qualities as essentially a man looking over his shoulder. a grasp of the future that has yet to unfold. >> guest: i think he was a real visionary, domestically, but also globally. he's the hero of this book. >> host: the first four, the great caesar's, and of course that raises the question. what happened posted the? i mean, has it all been down hill? is the nature of the e

of hillary clinton throughout the 1990s. it is i think interesting to see sarah palin revert to go that stereotype of hillary clinton. seems like a very calculated attempt to appeal to a certain kind of conservative who still has the kind of image of hillary clinton as a '60s lefty memphis, not the image of hillary clinton that a lot of republicans even admire today as sort of the tough secretary of state, potential secretary of defense, that kind of image that hillary clinton has worked so hard to project. it's interesting to see her going back to that older image to appeal to that constituency, the old hillary hater constituency. >> and we saw sarah palin as a mom in the audience for bristol watching the competition, she does the same thing with michelle obama. she goes after the michelle obama from the 2008 campaign and jeremiah wright. so it's those stereotypes that she useses to try to attack the president and first lady in the book. more to come on that. john, thank you so much. >> sure thing. >>> and up next, they hav

can obama pull a clinton?ll, i think he can show, clearly the leadership that the country expects from him, and which he's providing. >> your husband moved toward the midd middle. >> i think that's sort of the conventional wisdom. but i don't think that bill changed his principles, or changed his objectives, or reversed course in any way. i think what he did was take a very clear-eyed assessment of what was going to be possible with the congress after the election and moved on every front that i could to get things done and i think that's what you'll see president obama doing. >> two years ago, he wanted to be president. >> yes, i did. >> did you end up with the better job, you think? >> well, i ended up with a job that love. to a certain extent, i'm campaigning for america now. i'm using my political experience to try to explain america in ways that somebody in i country far from us, who has never been there. can understand. >> up we go. >> nonstop campaigning for america. some 60 hours after our journey bega

can obama pull a clinton? >> well, i think he can show clearly the leadership that the country expects from him, and which he's providing. >> rush hour husband moved toward the middle. >> you know, i think that's -- that is sort of the conventional wisdom. but i -- i don't think that bill changed his principles or changed his objectives or reversed course in any way. i think what he did was take a very clear eyed assessment of what was going to be possible with the congress after the election, and moved on every front that he could to get things done. and i think that's what you'll see president obama doing. >> hillary clinton suggesting the conventional wisdom about the pivot in 1994 not quite right. she weighed in on the outcome of this year's election. >> what happened? >> the democrats really took a liking. >> yeah. i'm very, very sorry about that. i was very sad to see a lot of good people turned out of congress for doing the right thing. >> she's very, very sorry. when asked whether hillary clinton could

bill clinton came in. there was a thought that this kind of new, progressive era was going to occur. the pendulum had swung to the left. and whacko, i mean, bill clinton got hit hard by gingrich and that particular movement. and it forced the clinton administration to triangulate to kind of move to the middle. and i think what we're going to see here -- to me, the narrative of this mid-term is the tea party mid-term. there's no denying that the energy and politics this year is with the tea party movement. and just like gingrich's contract to america was very historic, the tea party is. the question will be, can the democrats hold onto the senate? i think that if harry reid and barbara boxer can hang on to their seats, it won't be seen as a slaughter. if somehow they hold onto congress, the democrats could flip it as they've warded off this, the tea party wave. but by and large, i see sarah palin as becoming very enhanced this december. she has a book coming out with harper collins. i guarantee it's going t

and the contrast really could not have been more stark, with president clinton you could feel almost physically the weight of the repudiation settling on him and he kind of was agonizing over and over about how he got himself in this position. he kind of alternated between being furious at what he thought was the blind obstructionism and partisanism of the republican opposition but also going over what he felt were his own second decisions and lamenting how he had kind of lost the thread of connection with voters. there was almost none of that in the conversation we had about 10 days ago with president obama. he didn't seem shell shocked and he didn't seem defiant. seemed very matter of fact. it was clear that he is beginning to think in a concrete way about how he will try to navigate through washington with a lot more republicans in it. it wasn't really a sense of second guessing. there was a little bit of, well, i should have communicated better, but events were cascading on me too quickly, really, to give the time that was needed to explain some of these decisions. it was very di

there are several things that he had to do. >> it's not doing the clinton, do anything like bill clintonwhat he can do is say, i'm not changing. americans have changed. i work with him and guess what, now you've sent me this other congress that wants to cut spending and do something about the deficit. i'm going to work with them. i think republicans want to be prepared to confront that president because the basis that has gotten him in trouble and will cost him the election. he loflt the center and independence. >> one of the things that he has to focus on, you need your base in order to win. >> two interesting notes to talk about. we'll be right back. people like watching it rain, as long as they're not outside. but, i'm a home. i'm always outside. i make being inside possible. look, do me a favor. get flood insurance. floods can devastate your home. fred, how you doing over there? i think this is gonna be a problem. see what i mean? hey, i know what i'm talking about. because i'm a home people. and, there's no place like me. [ female announcer ] only flood insurance covers floods. for

there are several things that he ha to do. >> it's not doing the clinton, do anything like bill clintony, i'm not changing. americans have changed. i work with him and guess what, now you've sent me this other congress that wants to cut spending and do something about the deficit. i'm going to work with them. i think republicans want to be prepared to confront that president because the basis that has gotten him in trouble and will cost him the election. he loflt the center and independence. >> one of the things that he has to focus on, you need your base in order to win. >> two interesting notes to talk about. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] to equip the lexus es with standard features more like the mercedes c300, you'd have to take out the six-disc cd changer and leather-trimmed seats. with the bmw 328i, you'd also lose the power moonroof and 17-inch alloy wheels. and some others in its class -- forget wood detailing or sound-dampening windshields, to name a couple. but why would you want to do that? the lexus es -- standard is nothing short of extraordinary. see your lexus de

to attack iron or clinton's suspicions about putin dealings with the italian prime minister. they have changed the state department computer system to better protect the system. officials point out that the pentagon is the suspect for the original source of this leak, and i'm told that this will cause a government-wide re-examination of those post-9/11 reemps requiring agencies to share their intelligence with each other. natalie. >> the real question is in this age of war and terror, what's the potential fallout? could this be a game changer for u.s. foreign relations? >> reporter: i think it is. the potential fallout is unlimited now. they won't trust us because they know hillary clinton and condoleezza rice ordered intelligence gathering and spying on foreign officials. this crosses a very important line, because while everybody knows spying does take place, diplomats have a special legal immunity, and if they're now accused of spying, this could expose them to grave dangers and bad timing for secretary clinton. she's leaving tomorrow on a previously scheduled trip to four

secretary of state hillary clinton joins a growing chorus of officials are urging the senate to ratify the start nuclear cuts treaty before republicans gain the upper hand in the congress. and european finance ministers start work on a possible aid package for debt stricken ireland in an effort to restore confidence in the euro zone. back to washington now for part two of the alone a show with a start treaty on the line along with u.s. russia relations we take a look at why some senators are seeking to delay ratification it's coming your way in just a moment stay with us. well it's time for tonight's tool time award and we're giving it to the group called americans for truth about homosexuality the group is based in chicago and they are all up in arms over the backdown issue at airports but it's not about the invasive nature of the pat downs it's about who's doing that they want all known gay lesbian or bisexual t.s.a. workers to stop performing pat downs at airports they're very bigoted president of the group peter le barbour said most traveling men wouldn't want to barney frank to pa

clinton fell apart in '94.y january '96, president clinton was -- politically at least winning the showdown in gingrich. he was able to say he talked republicans a little bit. he was able to play the era of big government was over. that was signaled. there was a signal that basically i'm not bringing the health care up again. you don't have to worry that the monster of hillary is going to reappear in the window of 1997. the problem obama -- the obama administration has is i think it's the law of the land. and whether it's repealed or substantially reformed is a big issue. and if you want to repeal obamacare obvious -- or substantially change it, you need to defeat. you need to set up the situation. we've been talking about that. that's partly a matter of his own choice and his own psychology. but it's also just a matter of a funny way you kept it. because either, you know, he's going to be defending it and republicans are going to be attacking it through 2011, 2012. it's a funny situation. he set up the situati

croip clinton feeling clinton, nostalgia is nothing new. remember this from "snl" as he left office. >> i feel your pain and feel it now. i will get a council to look into the ill legal eight-year term limit thing. i think there's fudging. if there's one thing i learned is our laws are like pin nat thats, the more you beat them, the more candy you get. i think i'll be able to run again by late october. chris: when we come back, the noise over airport screening lead to serious consideration of other ways to keep terrorists off our planes. wouldn't a real game change be if we got hit again. scoops and predictions and the top reporters, be right back. chris: that was george clooney "up in the air" a satire but should they target the bomber or the bomb? a hot topic around our thanksgiving tables. one thing is off the policy table. the head of the t.s.a. has said, this country will not consider what israel does. >> the israeli model uses intelligence in different ways, profiling and then in terms of a patent, if they suspect you of something, yo

a clinton? well, i think he can show clearly the leadership that the country expects from him and which he's providing. >> your husband moved toward the middle. >> you know, i think that's -- that's sort of the conventional wisdom. but i don't think that bill changed his principles or changed his objectives or reversed course in any way. i think what he did was take a very clear-eyed assessment of what was going to be possible with the congress after the election, and moved on every front that he could to get things done and i think that's what you'll see president obama doing. >> let's discuss in our strategy session. joining us the democratic strategist and cnn political contributor james carville. and the republican strategist and contributing commentator rich gaylan. you're a friend of bill, a friend of hillary, used to work for the former president. do you think this current president will go to the bill clinton playbook and move towards the center? >> well, i think that the secretary of st

bill clinton got hit hard by newt gingrich in that movement and it forced the clinton administration to triangulate and no to the middle. what we will see here, to me the narrative of this midterm election is the tea party midterm. there is no denying that the energy in politics this year is with the tea party movement. just like newt gingrich's contract to america was historic, the tea party is. can the democrats hold on to the senate? if haori read and barbara boxer can hang onto their seats, it will not be seen as a slaughter. if they hold on to congress, the democrats could flip it as they were up the tea party. i see sarah palin becoming an answer to this december. she has a book coming out. i guarantee it will be number one. she has a reality show coming out. i still think she has some steam behind her possibly running for the republican nomination using the tea party as your basic platform. >> does this resemble an election for you? >> just the one in 1994. that is the one that is the closest because it is a democrat that comes in who came in with a feel some kind of mandate.

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i spend just as much time criticizing the clinton administration as i do the george w. bush administration. what you had was officialdom that came to buy into an idea that economists knew was false, that financial markets could be left untouched. one of the most fascinating figures to me and my narrative is larry summers, who just announced recently he is leaving as obama's chief economic adviser. because larry summers is truly one of the great economist of his generation. the winner of the very prestigious prize awarded every two years to an economist under 40. and he knew -- some of his own work in the 1980's have shown the fallacy of the idea of rational markets in finance. and yet when he became a policy maker, first in the clinton administration under robert rubin, the treasury secretary, and then later under obama, he became influenced by this idea that you could leave the financial markets alone. there was one famous moment in 2005, the height of the bubble just before things went bad -- went bad, at a retreat in jackson hole that central bankers hold every year,

i do agree with secretary clinton on part of this. this all out and not check with the government or sources you may trust, you may get somebody killed and actually end a very important operations that this country is involved in. it is clearly a dangerous time. >> larry: didn't mr. hastings and mr. ellsberg make some good points, though? >> well, they feel very strongly about transparency. i share their strong feeling about transparency. we need to make the government more transparent, but to -- you know, you need to step back from this. the forces are lying up against it. not just in the government, but a lot of people are just saying hey, wait a minute, what's going on here? does this make sense? is this good for the country, is it good for diplomacy. and as we have seen, as ellsberg saw when he leaked the pentagon papers, the government is quite capable of striking, investigating, and holding people accountable. i think that may happen here. at the same time, only several hundred of these documents have been examined and printed.

i was asked by president clinton and other colleagues to -- then, all of a sudden, i hear president clinton and the posted -- the israeli leaders say that they had the offer and they said no. why did you say that? why did you say that? you know that in camp david, we did not have an offer. he told me, did not open your mouth, not a single question from you. that is a truce. i came here in january 2nand they said, mr. president, i appreciate your offe and the have -- i appreciate your offer. and then when president bush and olmert, we had an agreement to come january 25th, 2009, to lock into the agreement. why did the american presidents always want to do this when there is only nine days left i know it. i was there. i am the person who drafted this. for five days, the israeli negotiators refused to open the door to his bedroom. i don't want to score points, i don't want to go more and more. the blame game will not serve anything. now, my offer, we have a president who is ready for the two states solution, the '67 lines, all agreements with what was offered. do we have a partner in this? >>

secretary of state hillary clinton urges the senate to ratify a landmark nuclear kamila plus as republicans threaten to block a progress. and the e.u. is teetering on the brink eurozone finance ministers brainstorm a banking recovery with struggling arland offered a survival. seven pm here in moscow this is art to you coming to you live let's get straight to our top story russian businessman victor boot is being held in a high security prison in new york after his extradition from thailand dubbed the merchant of death for allegedly trafficking weapons around the world he faces my from prison on terrorism charges in america. the decision to hand him over to the u.s. is extreme injustice and promise to support him by all means. reports from new york . we are anticipating and expecting for u.s. prosecutors to hold a press conference in the next few hours detailing what is exactly next for victor boot we know the russian businessman will also be appearing before a judge at one pm new york city time as you mentioned he's being held at a federal prison the metropolitan correctional center in the

clinton asked for personal information. data should include e-mail addresses, telephone and fax numbers, fingerprints, facial images, dna, and i respect -- iris scams. -- scans. before it can close guantanamo bay in cuba, the u.s. must find countries willing to take in inmates. the leaked corespondents shows slovenian diplomats were offered a personal meeting with president obama in exchange for taking in a prisoner. delete cables also convey the scope of concern in the middle east over the prospect of iranians acquiring nuclear weapons. the reveal that saudi arabia urged a u.s. military strike on iran. documents "the egyptian president as describing iran in these words. "they are fat lyr and justify their lives because the belief it is for a higher purpose. bomb iran, or live with an iranian bomb." uring the recent escalation between the two koreas, china renewed support for p'yongyang. but china is frustrated with kim jong il and would welcome the united peninsula under south korean control. wikileaks whistleblowing has b

we did see this happen to clinton, to reagan. does it compare? >> you know, it's interesting. i was talking to people at the white house about that today. they have a number of old hands at the white house, starting with the chief of staff, who have seen this happen, but as they look back in history them say that the differences from 1994 and 1980 are at least as important as the similarities. and one -- one of the differences is that they don't think president obama can essentially do small-bore initiatives because in a time of unemployment at 10% this is going to look just completely inadequate to the moment. and they say they're operating in a much more partisan media culture than anyone else has had to deal with. so yes, there are historic parallels and reason to think that resurgence is possible two years from now, but they also know, they're very aware that they have a very different kind of challenge. >> listen to how he talked on wednesday. he interpreted the election results as not that he went the wrong direction but that he didn't go far enough, he said we didn't ma

obama will put hillary clinton on his eyes president. are dealing with an obama /clinton. it would be historic. the republicans are putting pailin or wrongly. obama/clinton could be hard to be, particularly of unemployment drops down at 8.9% in chile but mint. >> it is interesting that use a sarah palin and it wrongly in the same breath. iand mit romney in the same breath. >> a lot of people would view that almost an act of desperation. is it necessary to boohoo is pale it -- if they live is the republicans -- if palin is the republican candidates. >> hillary clinton deserves it. she has done a great job of secretary of state. they need someone who will run for president. it is her moment. it would unify the clintons still have great inroads in blue-collar communities. and bill clinton has done a marvelous job and for the democrats in the past few years. >> it could be seen as a mistake. >> a unifies the obama or brand and unbranded she will be unified democratic party. the republican party that has people angry at mr. romney and and hav

nick, i would do exactly what clinton is doing. i have nothing but time. i was already president, be an actor. >> what is dick cheney in "van wilder" too. >> we can't put mel gibson in because he treats women bad and has a bad temper, but clinton? okay. >> at least monica enjoyed it though. she wasn't complaining. i don't think she had a problem with it. >> did she ever write a book? she never wrote a book. >> that's hilarious. >> tucker, did monica lewinski write a book? >> of course she did. it was called -- i think it was called "my life" and barbara walters opened with it. you were not glued to the tv and eating popcorn? actually i read it and it was a pretty good book. >> yeah, that decade i was highly medicated. >> monica lewinski wrote "my life"? there is just one part of her life people would like to read about. she had struggles in the mall when she was 13. >> being a president is no longer a big deal when you are younger. it is the crowning achievement of a lifetime. now that we have younger presidents, they have three decades to puts around. >>

but let me pick up on an area that i asked secretary clinton about. the tsa and airport screeners, and some of these searches that are really disturbing people around the country. is this excessive? >> absolutely. now look, let's start off, we can not be lackadaisical about protecting our country about terrorists, make no mistake about that. i have two primary concerns with how they're doing this. first, george will, others have made this point -- >> conservatives. >> they've made the point they're not common sense, not using intelligence. there's no reason to be doing body searches of 6-year-old, 12-year-old girls traveling to louisiana visit grantparents. we're not talking about profiling but to not stop them but use it to apply our defenses to those most likely to cause us hrm. here's the second concern, it feels like from this administration that we're playing a defensive game in the war on terrorism. yes, we need to harden our infrastructure, but if you have a committed terrorist willing to give up their lives, you look at the past patterns. we g

there are a lot of clinton scandals in 1996 and clinton -- and bill clinton was reelected handily because he made it look like a waste a time. this is the thing. it's a delicate balance. how do we make sure this is not a waste of time? they have a lot of room if they investigate the stimulus, a lot of stimulus investigations are going to be kind of silly. most of that money is being spent the right way. it's usually on these tiny proportions that go to bear dna research and things of that nature. a lot of good, you know, gains for republicans if they focus on making the obama government look incompetent. if they make it look like it's corrupt, because we know it's not, you know, the heart of the administration or something, it's going to backfire. it does backfire. people voted for republicans because they want jobs, not for any other reason. they don't have jobs, they're angry, they voted for these guys. not because they care about joe sestak or because they think a.c.o.r.n. is a threat to ameri america's moral fabric. >> by the way -- >> investigations cost money, too. >> right. >> well

where do you think that hillary clinton is going next?> she is the secretary of state and it is her job to do that. she is good at reaching out to republicans and it is a good issue and more important issue. the more the public has to understand why it will happen. i don't think that she has any larger political motivation and trying to do that other than it's an important thing to do and she's doing her job. and i would not be, i would be surprised if i know that she says she's tired and i think she is. >> you think she's going to stay on? >> i think she would stay like through the first term. i think that would be difficult, certainly difficult to lead at this point. she is not going to challenge president obama and president clinton is doing what politicians with good organizations do which is paying back their supporters with visits and the idea that she is going to somehow challenge obama is fantasy and i think it's unlikely that she will ever run for president again. >> let's talk about somebody who may very well challenge obama and

clinton was on set. there were photos shot.d huge security around "the hangover 2" the sequel. i can't wait to see this movie. former president george w. bush has been out the last week or so pushing his new book and he got into the feud last week with kanye west. snl had fun with it. jason se day kiss as george bush and the new guy, jay ferrell a master impressionist doing kanye. >> so everything is good with you guys? >> i mean it's all good now. you know we had problems and now we solved those problems. >> absolutely. i love conway. i do. >> kanye and w, best of friends. ♪ you recognize haters >> that's right, haters. >> kanye has me doing the twister. >> twitter. >> tell them your twitter fam. >> sure. i call myself not so curious george. >> if you haven't seen jay's denzel washington, the new guy there, for snl, go on-line and check it out. it's scary into still ahead why are you awake? your troublesome texts and e-mails now just moments away. (tango ♪) it ain't pretty but brenda likes it. have you apple mango tangoed? gai