clinton: yeah. because that was just a -- a turning point, because either he didn't know and we and he'd been manipulated by his staff or he did know and he was trying to cover it up. that's how it came across. timothy: i think that information came frequently coulson. sec. clinton: could be. timothy: the day before article one was passed by a bipartisan majority congressman sandman and wiggin went on an attack against congressman sarbanes. it had an effect on the staff because that night the attack was you don't have enough specifics, and you cannot impeach a president without specifics. and that night staff worked tirelessly to put together specifics for every charge in article one. did you participate in that? sec. clinton: i recall that. see, that was the necessary transitions away from just presenting the statements of information. i think door and the other senior lawyers were very aware that they didn't want to get ahead of the committee, which i think was the right position for them to be in

so, if bill clinton the man, bill clinton a friend were the issue here. i'm quite sure i would not be doing this. but it is the weight of history myall of us, and it is reverence for that great document u.s. heard me rail about 424 years that we call our constitution. -- about for 24 years. the most sacred document next to the holy bible. these proceedings go right to the heart of o ur constitution where it deals with impeachment. the part that provides the justest punishment for about anybody, the president. even though the framers said we protecting this in to the public, not to punish the president. colleagues, you have such an awesome responsibility. my good friend, the senior senator from new york, has said it well. he says, "a decision to the potential for destabilizing the office of president. and those 400 historians, and i some have made light of that, are they just friends of bill? last evening, i went over that list of historians, many of whom i know, among them woodward. in the south, we love him. he is the preeminent southern historian in the

what is president clinton doing? uest: president clinton was following this very intensely. now and we say thank goodness social media -- ition exist because didn't exist because he left it opine aboutgates to the injury and injustice of all it.this and complain about but he felt that a strong part f his tactic is because he was so popular and his job approval was so high and the economy was he argument again and again look what i'm doing. i'm traveling around the country the nation's bills and i'm still the -- business and dealing with international affairs. he was trying to persuade the a rican people he was doing good job and he had not betrayed them. he as still doing the job was elected to do and he kept saying and said this after he acquitted as well that he would continue to represent their interests to the last hour the last day. what was interesting though is hile he left office very popular, it was the case that after impeachment democrats were hamstrung to get more legislation through congress so final two years may have looked like he was popular but it was not l

on the left it's hillary clinton and barack obama wrestling over the black vote, and clinton is saying the black vote is mine, obama. i've pandered to it for years. i've taken it for granted for years. it's mine, by right, obama says it's mine, clinton, who has a greater right to it? and notably, punk in the lower left says or the black voter in the lower left says who asked me? and punk says you'll be told later. so an amazingly harsh view about how democrats view the african-american vote as something that we fight over and it's a monolithic thing and someone owns it. the context for this cartoon is barack obama ran for president and the first african-american to become president, but he was not necessarily seen as the african-american candidate. when he started his race he ran as this post-racial candidate. he didn't talk about race. the clinton his this amazingly good will among african-americans for bill clinton's time in office, so it really wasn't until after barack obama started winning racism and particularly the iowa caucuses that african-american votes started to come to him

then, clinton, we finance. then punk in the middle says, who do you fancy we should buy a used car from? the reason i love this cartoon is that it is incredibly timely. this is from the 1993 health-care fight. you could fast-forward and you could basically take the affordable care act, obamacare, put it where conservative health care is. you could put in the clinton health care, whatever donald trump has proposed, you could put medicare for all there. the refinance his purpose is perfect because that is the critic of the progressive health-care plans like medicare for all. how do you pay for it? it really depicts the challenge we have with health care in the system. we don't have we have a series of not. appealing options that are presented by politicians. a lot of it is simply imagining what something could look like if you could finance it in some way. a lot of the cartoons will be looking at this particularly timely. >> the republican car is an old gt. i just think this is the best cartoon i have ever seen a

president clinton is totally right.ll across this country, there are extraordinary examples of really committed principals and teachers where the outcomes of achievement for their students are lights out good. plusld argue 13,000 government run monopolies is not the best governance model to decide the fate of this incredibly diverse group of society, iat, as a think we have a moral and economic obligation to assure they are college or career ready by the time they get to 12 three -- 12 grade. giving more power to parents, making sure they are informed parents, that they have choices, but it is more than just -- they need to know about what the choices are. that's a catalyst for the kind of innovation i think will be necessary, going forward. in florida, we have universal pre-k, the largest voucher program in the country. i think there is like 150,004-year-olds that go -- 150,000 four-year-olds that go to the school. we have a corporate tax scholarship program that has 110,000 students going to private schools. we have 3

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clinton, president clinton allowed his attorney to make false statements. as he characterized an affidavit in order to prevent questioning, which during the course of the question, the judges deemed relevant. on january 15, the attorney for president clinton obtained a copy of the affidavit monica lewinsky filed to avoid testifying by herself in the jones case. and then in this affidavit you relayed she never had sexual relations with the president. two days later, the president was asked questions about his relationship with miss lewinsky. we saw this on the video recently. mr. bennett objected to the innuendos of the questions. he pointed out that she signed an affidavit denying a sexual relationship with the president. mr. bennett asserted this indicated there was no sex of any kind, in any manner, shape or form. we all heard that being stated as the president sat there and nodded a couple of times. after a warning from judge wright he stated, i'm not coaching the witness is fully aware of miss jane does affidavit. mr. bennett used it an attempt to stop

clinton's involvement. on wednesday the independent counsel released a statement to the press, which i would submit into the record. >> without objection. >> so ordered. with the issue presentation to the committee and claiming that the president's involvement is substantiated by the billing records for ms. currie's cellular telephone account. they use these in the closing statement to the committee, indicating that the one minute call was placed from ms. currie ms. lewinsky'so telephone number at 3:32 p.m. in the press release the independent counsel claims that ms. currie placed this call for the purpose of arranging to pick up the gifts from ms. lewinsky. in his closing statement to the committee, he made much of the document. he said, "it cooperates monica lewinsky, and proves conclusively that ms. currie called monica from her cell phone several hours after she left the white house." why did betty currie pick up the gifts from ms. lewinsky? he answered, the facts. the facts. if we only had facts. the f

clinton, president clinton allowed his attorney to make false statements. affidavitacterized an in order to prevent questioning, the course of the question, the judges deemed relevant. on generate 15, the attorney for president clinton obtained a copy of the affidavit sat monica lewin's you filed to avoid testifying by herself in the jones case. in this affidavit you --l recall lewinsky related relayed she never had sexual relations with the president. two days later, the president was asked questions about his relationship with miss lewinsky. we saw this on the video recently. mr. bennett objected to the innuendos of the questions. she signedout that an affidavit denying a sexual relationship with the president. asserted this indicated there was no sex of any kind, in any manner, shape or form. we all heard that being stated as the president sat there and nodded a couple of times. after a warning from judge wright he stated, i am not coaching the witness -- the witness is fully aware of miss jane does affidavit. mr. bennett used it an attempt to stop the q

democrat kirstjen gillibrand, who holds clinton's old senate seat said a long time ago bill clinton shouldresigned. >> that behavior could not be tolerated and should not be tolerated today. the wait is over. t-mobile is lighting up 5g nationwide. while some 5g signals go only blocks, t-mobile 5g goes miles... beyond the big cities to the small towns... to the people. now, millions of americans can have access to 5g on t-mobile. and this is just the beginning. t-mobile, the first and only nationwide 5g network. >>> they shouldn't be having appearances, it's a hoax. >> from the start, president trump refused to cooperate with the impeachment trial. >> president trump is absolute and without in american history. >> the president leaves us with no choice but to act. >> mr. chairman, there are 23 ayes and 17 no's. >> the articles are agreed to. >> the constitution says it's up to the house. it's not up to the president of the united states to tell the representatives, a separate branch of government, how to vote. >> article i is adopted. we passed two articles of impeachment. the president is

clinton for many years. and i just think it's very funnily from the other side of the aisle, i think it's very funny. >> at this time in very, very early in the battle for the 2008 democratic nomination, which was a year and a half yet to be decided, there was sort of uncertainty about obama, among many african-americans, not so much about him per se, although he was a relatively new figure on the national stage, but rather, could an african-american be elected president in the united states of america? and obama, as chris pointed out, did not run as jessie jackson had run, as essentially the candidate of black american. obama ran in a more transcendent way. but what validated him among many black voters, you see this reflected in the polling, is when he won the iowa caucuses. because then the messages to states in like south carolina where in the democratic party, they constitute a majority, was, white people will vote for this guy. he could actually win. i think that had a lot to do with his winningness tu

> it's been no secret hillary clinton would run for president.ut today on her website, she made it official. >> i'm not just starting a campaign though. i'm beginning a conversation. after six years as a senator, people believe in our poll by overwhelming margins that she has the credentials and leadership skills to be president. >> i'm in it to win it with your help. >> her husband was a popular, a very popular president. she had all the money, all the backers. it looked like a sure bet. >> senator barack obama threw his hat into the crowded ring today. >> one thing you could say about illinois senator barack obama is there's never been another presidential candidate like him. he has a foreign sounding name that rhymes with hussein. he's admitted to use marijuana and cocaine. >> barack obama stepped on to the national stage and wowed the democratic national convention with his eloquence. >> there is not a liberal america and a conservative america. there is the united states of america. there is not a black america and a white america and latino

bill clinton will never quit. [applause] >> the chair would ask all members to respect the time constraints under which we are operating. the gentleman from michigan is recognized for three minutes. >> the record of the house on something as important as impeachment should be as clear and accurate as it can be. after yesterday's considerable misstatements by members of the majority, i rise to set the record straight. they say these articles show high crimes. the record of historians who wrote the committee say they are low crimes and don't justify the drastic remedy of impeachment. as to article one, impeachment is not justified. they say the president committed perjury in the grand jury. but the actual record is he did not deny an inappropriate relationship with ms. lewinsky during his grand jury appearance. they are complaining only because of a lack of specificity. if you can believe that, in the president's testimony touched where and when it happened. they claim there is a clear and convincing evidence of gra

stern did get clinton to open up about life and love before bill clinton. >> somebody before bill thatave considered marrying? >> no. i would not have considered marrying. >> but in love? >> but in love. >> stern tried to press clinton on the field of 2020 candidates. she pledged to support whoever the democratic nominee might be, though she had a few choice words for bernie sanders. >> do we hate bernie sanders? >> no, i don't hate anybody. >> bernie could have endorsed you quicker? >> he hurt me. no doubt about it. >> have you spoken to bernie about that? >> no. >> you don't talk to him? >> i don't talk to him. we did when he finally endorsed me. >> but you're upset with him? >> no, disappointed. >> and i hope he doesn't do it again, whoever gets the nomination. once is enough. >> a lot there. clinton also talked about that special something that she says people like barack obama have, people like bill clinton have, something she wishes she had more of. clinton also said one of the mistakes she made during her campaign is she didn't do enough media. she said trump was all over the pl

this impeachment than in clinton it is just they are invested in this impeachment than in clinton itd with the evidence. don't you think there is something about the wearying nature of this presidency? there is so much noise 24/7 that it becomes harder to delineate between signal and the constant noise coming at you. and we have had a year or so of the mueller investigation as well so of the mueller investigation as well so people have had an awful lot investigations to get used to. the white house has already sent out a fundraising request on the back of these impeachment vote, tied to the impeachment. they think that this is a way for them to raise money and to raise support and within minutes, having been impeached, the president sent out a fundraising appeal. so let's have a look at what is happening on the house floor as we watch nancy pelosi. she will do the same thing we saw last time and counting the final votes. here we go. then she will gavel that and we will have the same process as last time. yes, the clerk will hand her a piece of paper, he is sitting below her with the

stern got clinton to open up about life and love before bill clinton. >> you were popular. >> i was prettyular. >> right. boys were not your problem. >> boys were not my problem but i never -- until i met bill met anybody i thought i would ever marry. >> you were not the cheerleader type. >> no. >> studious -- >> and student government, that kind of stuff. i did run for president of my high school government as i remember. >> did you win? >> no. of course not. >> did some guy who -- >> of course! a guy won. and then -- sort of -- a lot of my boyfriends they said, you know, come on. we're not going to elect a girl. what are you doing this for? because, i have ideas what i want to do. fine. so somebody else wins. comes to see me and goes you know, i would really like it if you'd help me. >> oh. >> yeah. i said, sure. >> you were really nice. >> i was nice. >> i would have said -- >> i like doing things. what can i say. >> reporter: another revealing moment talked about the first date with bill clinton as a museum when students at yale law school. >> no kiss at this point? >> well, we got the

what led to the impeachment of president clinton? alexis: bill clinton was under investigation for almost his entire presidency. ken starr had begun to investigate the whitewater investment deal back in 1994.

bill clinton tried to be as presidential as he could.trump has decided to de-legitimize the entire process and say it's unfair and for that reason he's not complying with any of the requests. he's basically attacking that part of our constitution. by the way, this is a very worrisome strategy and should be for everyone, regardless of whether you're a supporter of president trump or not. do you want them to say part of the constitution doesn't apply anymore. do you want a democrat to make that? one of the thing that isn't so sad, they're saying to the white house, do something to show that you care about the process. >> yeah. right. and the other thing that i wanted to ask you about is bill clinton was in his second term. nixon resigned so there wasn't ever the prospect of a president being impeached and running for re-election. how extraordinary is this? >> well, i mean, andrew johnson could have run again but he ultimately wasn't chosen by the nominee in 1868. in modern era it's unprecedented. again, it all depends on whether you care a

you guys need hillary clinton?don't think she's running. >> i asked you if you need her. >> i think we are good with the candidates that we've got. >> why do people keep getting in? >> i think if i was a billionaire i'd consider it to but i don't think bloomberg has an opportunity here. he's got no chance. we have to be honest about this is basically a campaign down to four people at this point and hillary clinton it is not going to be one of them. she has missed the filing deadline on a number of key early states. she wouldn't need to get the delegates, so this is a biden-sanders, warren and pete buttigieg. >> look no further than the fact that we are calling her office sideline. none of these candidates can stand up to president trump, new china trade deal, no one can beat him. >> it is so interesting. she also has personal history with the last president who had a booming economy up for reelection and he had the wind at his back no matter what was going on because historically in this country, you might've heard

basically following the ground rules for president clinton. i know you worked at the white house for president clinton at the time. >> the devil is in the details. the american people should see all the facts of the trial and should be an ex-position of what happened and opportunity to judge for the public and senators who still might have an open mind. mitch mcconnell, from the very beginning made clear he is trying to subvert that basic idea. call me skeptical about his proposal. i don't want to get ahead of the speaker. i'm glad he's moving a bit and that shows the wisdom of her course. the house just finished last night and we have a few days. remember, the speaker needs to make decisions that depend on what the senate does. we passed a resolution that depends very clearly what will happen in the house and the speaker should do the same to appoint managers that needs them to do their work. >> mcconnell said, if she thinks this is leverage on him, she's wrong. sending us something we do not want. he's saying, you know what, you don't want t

unless what you want is, to curtail the damage to hillary clinton.ssure that donald trump doesn't win. i don't understand what reason you would have to say that the trump nomination affects the course of the clinton investigation. he said that. which is evidence that there was some effect. now, that's never mentioned in the i.g. report. it is never mentioned in his earlier report. i understand he basically took everybody's word for it because he doesn't have subpoena power. there is somebody who does have subpoena power. that is john durham. and durham will be conducting a criminal investigation which we have yet to hear about. maria: durham's investigation will go looking what happened before july 2016 because the fbi continues to say we started this investigation into july of '16 because of a tip we heard about a conversation that happened in a bar between george papdopoulus and an infor ant. >> right. maria: actually we know that informants ran into george papdopoulus, quarter page, as early as march of that year. >> not only that, jim comey was t

clinton's lawyer said the white house is confident president clinton will not be convicted. >> you saw summons was actually hand delivered to the white house. these same senate rules lay out how the senate can deal with any problems. they can actually provide frizz time enforced by the sergeant at arms for people who disrupt or talk during the trial. >> all persons are commanded to keep silent by the senate of the united states in the sitting for the trial of the articles of impeachment exhibited by the house of representatives against william jefferson clinton. >> senators don't get to talk either because this is a trial and the senators are sort of transformed into jurors. that explains it. you don't see jurors stand up and give speeches at trials. so like them, if the senators have a question, they have to submit it reduced to writing, and then the chief justice handles it. so americans will see a judge quoting the senators for any questions or points they want to raise. >> the senator has provided up to 16 hours during which senators may submit questions in writing. >> this questio

bill clinton, i could make an argument that bill clinton, aside from that messy impeachment thing was a really good president. other people might disagree. but we always have to look at the impeachment, look at what caused it. that makes us look at his character flaws. and it keeps us from giving him that sort of unreserved embrace that we give to some figures. >> part of what we're both talking around -- i want to bring in juanita on this -- is legitimacy. juanita, we're talking about power. we're talking about gentlemen lit legitimacy. there's a deference for people who assume this office. donald trump who assumed the office the way he did, the way he campaigned, the bigotry he appealed to didn't get more votes, got fewer votes in the way he's governed. and then did something i would like you to reflect on with us. sometimes people confess and cooperate. other times people deny and defy. donald trump in his brazen mix of idiocy confessed and then still defied and appeared to obstruct, at least allegedly obstruct. walk us through what that is for america now that he stands with this

but what's interesting is clinton has a strong economy.verybody would say to people like me well you are saved by the strong economy. we had a strong economy then and have a strong economy now. partisan impeachment then and likely to have one now. clinton went to 73%. trump at 43. how i do explain the 30 point gap? it's because people thought the offense he committed was a sin not a crime. and second he was working for the american people every doing gone day. and the president had a good win on the trade deal with mexico and canada. i'm glad pelosi did it too it shows the democrats aren't obsessed with impeachment. but he needs more than that. free advise, mr. president. join the gun bill. he said before he supported the background check bill. support it now. support the democrats on childcare roads and bridges. he could get a lot of stuff done right now. maybe the trade deal opens it. maybe he will watch this after his therapy session tonight in hershey and change his entire approach. >> paul belling awe joe lack hart we'll see. coming u

bush voted for hillary clinton. barbara bush did not like hillary clinton much either, so barbara bush road in jeb bush's name for president. it says -- wrote in jeb bush's name for president. for theof them voted republican candidate in the last election of their lives. is, we talk thing about probably the accomplishment of george herbert walker bush that is going to get him the biggest place in history just ofr guiding, not the country but the hold world -- whole world through the end of the cold war. he was so surefooted. now whoa president talks about america first, but george bush had relationships with a lot of the key players in that decade, whether it was the envoy to china, or the head of the cia. do you think that this kind of internationalist strain of the republican party still exists or has donald trump taken it to a different place? >> he is the leader of the party, so he does define foreign policy, republicans do not have to agree on every single issue there is. if you look back on the time of my gran

in the information by an unnamed person affiliated with the clinton campaign.ot know why there was delays in the wiretaps signing concerns that the justice department was worried about bias in the probe. as a direct quotes out of the report. >> the bias was well established along with the love affair in the text and were still in the majority are year ago and what we found in and what is so true now, they had a clear vent against the president and they broke a lot of rules to get what they wanted and i know michael horowitz is a really dedicated civil servant but when he says there is no evidence of bias, he is really saying we did not find 70 saying the things that page said in this particular case but that does not mean there is not clear bias, these are not accidents that always went towards hillary and against the president. clearly we need to have a law that stops the spying on a campaign. liz: i have to move on. the d.o.j. official is concerned that the biased needed to be disclose for the fisa court and comey and his team did not disclose and did not say

clinton and his spokesperson deny that.h bill clinton says he only flew on epstein's private plane four times even though flight logs show he took 26 flights on the so-called low leta express. bill clinton's office maintains he did not know anything about epstein's crimes. the security expert by the way also said that on some parts of the ranch, surveillance cameras were not allowed. tucker. >> tucker: thanks, trace. great to see you tonight tammy bruce hosts and she joins us tonight. some pars of the epstein ranch surveillance cam ares were not allowed. >> i bet. >> tucker: what do you make of all of this. so creepy i can barely stand it? >> we are both laughing because this is so creepy. creepy dark laugh that it's inexplicable. here is what is fascinating. the focus has been on bill clinton and the flights he is taking. this story clearly places hillary clinton in that same realm. but it's not just that dynamic. here now we have hillary clinton with a link to jeffrey epstein. we clearly know of a strong link with her and

. >> impeachment of any president obviously is a huge story, the clinton impeachment story was coveredstop, i remember vividly. covering impeachment, analyzing impeachment but taking sides on impeachment? >> i think that a lot of journalists are cheering for impeachment and it's really, really sad because journalists have a responsibility to this country and the country deserves to just get the facts and make up their own minds and i don't think that's what they're getting. >> what do you based that on? >> watching, i see the joy, even this morning i was watching one of the cable channels and they were talking about when nancy pelosi when nutty about the word hate and criticizing the reporter saying he was aggressive, usually they are talking how important it is to be aggressive. >> you set me up on my next question, when speaker nancy pelosi sent on sinclair television reporter, news conference was over, do you hate the president and she turned on him and said it was insulting to ask her that as a catholic. do you take her at her word that she says she doesn't hate the president at al

i wanted to note how almost like the clinton impeachment hearings and the impeachment of bill clintonn the 1990's, this one seemed to be very partisan in nature where all the republicans sided with trump and basically all the democrats, except the very brave ones who sided with trump, it is basically like a political move on the democrats part they have been planning on for a very long time, even before he took office, they were trying to impeach donald trump. they are throwing darts at a board and seeing what sticks, the reasons for impeachment have changed several times, they are trying to get him out of office and this is a political move on their end to secure the 2020 hesidency because otherwise, has less than a year left on his muchand this is very unlike bill clinton. get a foreignto government to investigate someone who had corruption. hisbiden never answered why son had relations in ukraine to begin with. they were trying to divert attention from that. trump is a very honest man. like himit seem sleeping with president zelensky or anything, he makes this very he is putting to

fans in this city and madame clinton usually likes to say that you know putin hates her because she supported democracy and all the other. things i wonder if you believe that's factually correct do you think the kremlin's beef with madame clinton was ultimately about her meddling in russia's domestic affairs or was it primarily because of her legacy on the international arena well i don't think that was a special attitude any sort of life that's that's. apparent but for a politician especially for high rank politician and russia to like somebody or to dislike somebody is not the way how the the politics is shaped so they were quite ready to work with her. of course she personally represented the kind of business in washington that nobody like that that's of course but this was known business but i mean was it about the business in washington was it about her support for and to put in protests in moscow back in 2000. over or maybe the 3rd thing was it her policy in libya which is sad i mean if you believe the rumor mill in moscow it was a major thing that influenced by the who put hi

and her daughter chelsea clinton.clear of the 2016 election. >> if i said back off, you creep, what i sound angry? on my gravestone i want she is neither as good or as bad as people say. >> reporter: the director of the series calls in a fantastic opportunity adding her story is utterly compelling. a recent harvard harris poll has clinton on top of all current 2020 candidates. check out the screen. she's not even running and look at these numbers. jillian: we asked your thoughts on the documentary, most agree on facebook, sure hope she purchases a semi to transport all the baggage she has accumulated. these are all jokes. gary on instagram says i don't need to see it, i know how it ends. j on facebook comments should be plenty of empty seats. the series debuts next month before moving to who streaming service, is expected to attend. will she jump in the race? that is adding speculation. >> she has the publicity machine cranking. carley: forbes naming angela merkel the most powerful woman of the year. the ninth year in

the last, bill clinton in 1998. cnn's tom foreman has this look back at the clinton impeachment and how it stacks up to the scandal facing donald trump. >> reporter: start with the evidence. >> this is something very, very serious. >> reporter: the impeachment of bill clinton began with the investigation of the whitewater land deal in arkansas. it turned into a wide-ranging, four-year probe by independent counsel ken starr. >> the president, in the course of those efforts, misused his authority and his power as president. >> reporter: starr's massive report laid out the complete allegations against clinton for congress to consider. with donald trump, the ukraine scandal has been unfolding in realtime with new witnesses and testimony day by day. compared to the clinton case, it is moving at lightning speed. next, the charges. when asked about his relationship with a white house intern, bill clinton, under oath, misled investigators just as he had the public. >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. >> the

by the clinton years, my attitude had changed somewhat. clearly, a defining moment in my political career was at first two years in the nixon impeachment hearings. >> what is interesting is you do mention your disappointment at the smoking gun tapes. i wondered if that also had -- >> it did. i obviously was disappointed and really upset at what happened and what i was afraid it would do to my country. it made me not cynical, but it always made me make sure when i was told something in the political arena or in washington of its veracity. i have a lot of sayings and anecdotes i collected over the years. one of them is, in washington, it is always about something else. what that means is, the reason they are telling you they are doing something is probably not the real reason. it is probably something else over here. the current debate about the automobile situation is a good example. some people say it is about the workers or you are opposed to bailouts, but it is really about who you represent. >> the gentleman that called you, was that je

that hillary clinton will win and so we should frame our politics these this way and that way and one all this all this charm thing came out of course of 1st they were just astonished surprised they didn't know what to do that was the 1st reaction of the program and the expertise i think it's fair to say that at that time there weren't many clinton fans in this city and madame clinton they usually like to say that you know putin hate her because she supported democracy and all the other. things i wonder if you believe that's factually correct do you think the kremlin's beef with madame clinton was ultimately about her meddling in russia's domestic affairs or was it primarily because of her legacy on the international arena well i don't think that was a special attitude any sort of like her come on that's a that's. a parent but for a politician especially for high ranked by the titian and russia to like somebody or to dislike somebody is not the way how the the the politics is shaped so they were quite ready to work with her. of course she personally represents it's the kind of busines