bill clinton. welcome to both of you. >> as we start, here i want to play a bit of a video from 1992. it is one of five or six hillary clinton clips that has become emblematic of her. this is one of them. this historian, when she talked about how she might approach the role of first lady and how involved she would be, let's listen. >> those of us who have tried to have a career and an independent life, certainly someone like myself will provide that with full public involvement. children, but also other issues. i have done the best i can and i suppose we will be subject to that kind of thing. i don't know what to say other than that. it is sad. this is still my profession which i entered before my husband. >> as they campaigned in 1992, they were promoting the idea of two for one. this should be a very involved first lady. as the administration unfolded, how did this work out for them? >> they made a lot of mistakes in the beginning. the public was not prepared for the two for one presidency. i don

, the clintons did as well.tayed there often. no one actually lived there like under roosevelt, but there were friends constantlyhbq+ coming through, and also a lot of big donors would get rewarded with a night in the lincoln bedroom. >> so, let me take a couple of2 calls then we have to talk in broad brush stroke about the investigations and legal troubles of the clintons as a political partnership. let's listen to ellie in wilmington, north carolina. hi, you're on the air. >> hi, thank you so much. i did, kudos, i had tv on and you had a funny look on your face. two points. and this has to do with something brought up last week with barbara bush. a person talked about how the í ! tend to put the fear of the lord in the press in that they would get called back to the white house if they printed something that was barbara bush was not in agreement with. yet barbara bush knew her husband had been having an affair and so did the number of the press, but they wouldn't hat. and hillary clinton, she said lot of thin

clinton. want to thank you for letting me speak with you about an issue that is central to our children's future and critical in our fight to restore this nation's economy, solving our nation's health care crisis. there is no prescription or role model or cookbook for being first lady. the future is created every day. the future is not something that is out there waiting to happen to us. the future is something that we make. well, i have said, and i believe, that there's a good possibility that sometime in the next 20 years we will have a woman president. >> hillary clinton logged many firsts in her role as first lady. political partners since law school, the clintons survived scandals and even the impeachment of president bill clinton. as she considers another bid for the white house herself, hillary clinton's story is still being written. good evening and welcome to c-span's year long series "first ladies: influence and image." we'll tell you the story of hillary clinton. here to tell us of

clinton health care coming soon. then the right banner is important. clinton, we finance. and then punk in the middle says, who to you fancy we should buy a used car from? the reason i love this cartoon is that it's incredibly timely. this is from the 1993 health care fight. and you could fast forward and you could basically take the affordable care act, obamacare, put it where conservative health care is. you could either put in the clinton health care, you could put whatever donald trump has proposed or wants to propose. you could put medicare for all there. the we finance is perfect because obviously, that's the criticism of big progressive health care plans like medicare for all. how do you pay for all this? it really depicts, i think, the challenge we have with health care and the system. we don't have -- we have a series of nonvery appealing options that are presented by politicians. and a lot of it is simply imagining what something could look like if you could finance it in some way. so a lot of the cartoons we'll be looking at are particularly timely. this one is

clinton for many years. as you see, it's very funny from the other side of the -- i think it's funny. >> at this time, very very early battle from the 2008 democrat mauve nomination, which was one year and a half, yet to be decided. there was sort of uncertainty about obama among many african americans. not so much about him per se, although he was a relatively new figure on a national stage, but rather, could an african american be elected president and the united states of america? and obama, as chris pointed out, did not run as jesse jackson had run, for example. it is essentially the candidate of black america. obama ran in a more transcendent way, but would validated him, among many black voters, and you see this reflected in the polling, over the months, is when he won the iowa caucuses. because the message then to african american voters and states like south carolina, or in the democratic party, they constituted the majority, was white people will vote for this guy, and he could actually win. and tha

to demonstrate in clinton v.es. and, third, i'd say, if -- if that's really the concern, i think it's wrong to think that even a categorical rule here would provide comfort to a distractable president like that. so, for example, nobody suggests here that we should be barred from continuing to investigate his, the president's, prior colleagues. so, if we now gather documents from them that reflect past communications with him while he was ceo, are we then supposed to be stopped because it could create a fear in him that the investigation of others might lead him to be accused of something someday? again, my point is that this speculative mental distress standard is not an appropriate basis to draw a constitutional bright line. that's why the case-specific approach is more appropriate. justice kagan: and -- and speculative mental distress -- how about if they really mean political undermining? dunne: well, i mean, if -- that -- that's beyond the ken of our office, your honor, and -- and as, again, the district cour

to demonstrate in clinton v jones. third, if that's the concern i think it's wrong to think even a categorical rule would provide comfort to distractible president like that. so, for example, nobody suggests we should be barred from continuing to investigate the president's of prior colleagues. if we now get the documents from them that reflect past communications with him while he was ceo, are within supposed to be stopped because it could create a fear in him that investigation of others might lead into the accuser something someday? again, my point is that this speculative mental distress standard is not an appropriate basis to draw a constitutional right line. that's why thee case specific approach is more appropriate. .. subpoena so i don't know. it has been determined no one can politically undermine. don't know how the court could evaluate that. >> mister secular suggest you should bad faith by taking away with of the house oversight committee subpoena. >> we tried to address that. in 2018 when our investigation

he also told hillary clinton what he was doing.e research to wiretap a political opponent but the fbi hid that from the court. what does this mean for the country? when does this mean for u.s. attorney john durham's criminal probe? do we want to turn into east germany, where we turn our intelligence community as a nation of snitches that spy on political opponents? that is dangerous course for our country. >> that is a dangerous course of our country. number one question i'm asked by constituents in indjanna regular basis, how can no one be held accountable for the biggest political scandal in american history? using christopher steele's own words, that the fbi fell for it, it was designed to help hillary clinton she was right in the middle of it. others in the obama administration were involved in the scandal. no one is held accountable for it, that is the biggest shame for the last four years, since i've been in washington going on four years now. i still can't believe it, no one has ever been held accountable for any of this. ho

trump invited those who accused bill clinton of rape and the debate with hillary clinton, how can you move beyond that? you can't. things have gotten so vicious and politics has become such a blunt force that i think it changed the way the former presidents are going to interact going forward. >> barbara in oklahoma city. good morning. >> hi, steve. she keeps talking about how honest and great the man, i'm sorry, you know, i have two things. one, the border and 50 years and last year, he had to pay 25 million, all this happened two or three times, he hires them and doesn't pay them. kushner came out and said we borrowed 20 of them after saying they never hired them. they did hire them. i watched this man 50 years and he has lied over and over and over again. i'm just like, i don't know why we don't talk about that. then we talk about university, why would you have a president who says something and steals every penny you have for a child to go to college and you don't have a college, what kind of person does that? >> thank you from oklahoma. >> and certainly not somebody who's defendi

would clinton have had absolute immunity? the >> if the case was brought in state court that would raise different issues over local prejudice and separation of powers issue pages 691 and footnote 13 with regards to every man's evidence the court has long recognized the president isn't to be treated as an ordinary citizen. he has responsibilities he is himself a branch of government. he is the only individual that is a branch of government in the federal system, so our position is the constitution itself in the structure and text supports the position they would be temporarily immune from this activity going state well he's the president of the united states. >> justice breyer. >> justice ginsburg, the president isn't to be treated as an ordinary citizen, and this is a temporary immunity. this is for while the president is in office while you make a point of the attorneys that of course lyndon b. johnson might be a million, i don't know that they could file the paper. why isn't it sufficient to apply ordinary standards i gath

by clinton. both of those cases were joined by unanimous results and chief justice roberts wanted to get to as close to that was to lay down some marksers but they will be ironed out below. >> i'm so glad you bring up that point because just to reiterate the decision in the nixon that led to his resying nation and the decision in clinton j. jones that led to his impeachment both unanimous. the justices he had appointed went against both of those presidents. here you had the same thing happen, not unanimous, but not 5-4. he has shuddered at this court as being political, especially months from an election. >> i'm sure that's right, poppy and what he wanted to send a signal which is not trump judges, the message that chief justice roberts is trying to enforce. leaving a lot for lower courts, but as -- as we've been saying it's actually a trump win at this point in terms of the time he buys, although especially in the new york prosecutor case there's a very strong case that he eventually has to turn

during the clinton administration, maybe the clintons would forgive you and let you write another story. if you said something negative about george h. w. bush, you were done until the next administration. >> we have two questions. one on facebook and one on twitter, about this aspect of mrs. bush is life. david welsh wants to know, what aspects of mrs. bush's personality might be seen in her son, president george w. bush? have any thoughts about that? >> well, i think that both of them have long memories. barbara bush, i think, does not let go of criticism very easily. i'm not sure that george walker bush does either. >> and a similar question and you can respond to both. regina crumkey on twitter, are there any passions that a young barbara passed on to her own children? >> well, you know we have to appreciate -- i think you understand barbara bush, you need to appreciate that she was really a product of her times. and the passion that she passed onto her children with the fact that she had devoted her entire life to them. to raising a family and to be a good and loyal wife to her hus

had a great economy under bill clinton.ike i said, grover belongs in jail. host: we will let you go. , well, it issponse problematic when someone gets a little bit carried away. , he did notes are rebut anything i said. saidoint is when the cdc they could only do the testing, their monopoly and assertion of power, and no one else could participate in getting this done, lost us a bunch of time. the fda having rules making it difficult to come up with new drugs, expensive and take too long, has been a problem for quite some time. there was a tremendous step forward when 40 states past the right to try law. if you have a drug the fda says is safe but they want to spend another several years deciding if it is effective, they are not going to let you buy it, unless they say it is effective, the state said, you know what, if people have a terminal disease and their child is dying and the product is safe and is not -- we are not willing to wait for years and watch the child die while you decide if it is effective or not. we will h

that's president clinton. who, of course, beat him soundly in 1992, and they became known at the odd couple because they became friends and eventually they became father and son, and they, they bonded over was their mutual desire. we did all of this disaster relief work, starting with, there was a horrible sue nam they hit south asia christmas day 2004 and we traveled to south asia. i'm not sure where we are here. look at those cute kids. this may be new orleans. then we did katrina. these two men alone raids $250 million and then did hurricane ike, but we raised a lot of money together. they became very close. president clinton still misses him terribly, and i'm not telling you this to name drop but i'm having lunch with president clinton in new york in two weeks, because he misses president bush so much, he called and said, can you come have lunch with me? i'm like, okay, but i think i have forgot all -- this is, this is on the -- this is a tsunami trip. i think this is indonesia. this is a trip where they b

ghislaine maxwell and bill clinton. it makes you wonder how close is this investigation to bill clinton? the fbi is not just interviewing ghislaine maxwell but also victims and people associated with maxwell. has the fbi reached out to bill clinton? it struck me yesterday when he was speaking at john lewis's funeral, he hasn't been out in public a lot. there is a pandemic, but it makes you wonder if he is avoiding questions about jeffrey epstein and ghislaine maxwell whom he knew well. >> dana: thank you. next concerns the baseball season could be on its last legs after more players test positive. alright, i brought in ensure max protein to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. [grunting noise] i'll take that. woohoo! 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. ensure max protein. with nutrients to support immune health. little things can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is

lawyer and author and professor margaret something that needs to be clarified chris is that hillary clinton's e-mails were revealed through a freedom of information act request filed in 20 well by the nonprofit citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington they were made searchable by both wiki leaks and the wall street journal and the destiny e-mails were retrieved by spearfishing whatever that means i'm not a techie spearfishing operation not by wiki leaks even james comey said that wiki leaks probably got the emails via an intermediary and wiki leaks as you said was not the only publication to receive and publish the d.n.c. documents intercepts politico and others wish them as well so this this whole issue of the d.n.c. hurting hillary clinton's campaign i think is really a red herring and depp people need to understand the facts. in early may the british court decided that the extradition hearing for wiki leaks publisher julian a songe originally scheduled for may 18th would be moved to september. this 4 month delay was made after a songes defense lawyers argued the difficulty of h

president clinton still misses him terribly. i'm having lunch with him in two weeks because he misses president clinton so much, he said can you have lunch with me. i said okay. this is a tsunami trip. i think it's indonesia. this is the trip, or president bush slept flying over he taught me how to play this game, i played it with my family, we played it at the marriott courtyard, this is president bush reading to a group of kids, i'm fairly certain this is sri lanka. the school was gone so we were having classes outside. now this is the story that you really want to hear. george clooney. god he is gorgeous. so this is actually part of disaster relief. this is after katrina, what most of you don't know is that just a week or two after katrina another huge hurricane came through louisiana, katrina was really sucking the air out of the room. the media was very focused on what was happening in new orleans. president bush got a call from a very small town, in louisiana, totally wiped out. the only thing still standing was the courth

if you ask bill clinton, is bill clinton guilty, he's going to say depends on what you're defamationhat your definition of "is" is. >> jesse: that is some airtight legal jiu-jitsu. this is the discovery process that's just at the beginning. a lot of redactions in this deposition. what do you make of today's ne news? >> emily: i would like to clarify for viewers of this is discovery and depositions from a 2018 defamation case by virginia giuffre against ghislaine maxwell. she said that ghislaine maxwell, by shaming me in public you have defamed me so this is from that. it's not new. it's just new to us. it's also from the investigation by federal investigators in the 2008 results from florida. what we are seeing now is the fruits of the judge in that case saying that it's public interest to see the information. ghislaine's team tried to keep it under wraps. they also are arguing and trying for the release, the public release of all the victims nam names. which should serve no public purpose other for them to continue to continue embarking on this victim shaming ordeal. a lot of it is

clinton's closest advisors on this and hillary clinton he makes it clear. this is not it was safe and under the control of the opposition by the time nato starts bombing but he says specifically we need to keep going we need to keep on going we need to create regime change and why because we need to be able to take over libya for the west for oil for infrastructure investment and for his gold and that's exactly what happened. and then the other countries within nato had had their own reasons because you know he got a major donation from gadhafi for his campaign and he didn't want that to come out and believe it was in a league with able to get out of billions of dollars they live in by bringing down gadhafi really is a despicable motivation behind this so-called humanitarian intervention recently the trump administrator who has been working very hard to destroy the power of the international criminal court the i.c.c. but they're not the 1st of his very soon to say the i face a cannot investigate or prosecute american why is it so important for the u.s. to u

. >> hillary clinton is a (bleep) demon! >> narrator: whes and conspiracies flourish. >> pizzagate is real. sandy hook, it's got inside job written all over it. >> narrator: "the united states of conspiracy." sinformation...eliberate >> disinformation is having a >> ...the same conspir theories... ♪ t >> narrato story of how alex jones helped bring conspiracies into the mainstream began on the fringes of america in the 1990s. >> all right, austin, i... >> narrator: he was a late-night access tv personality voice pedaling outragebscure >> they are trying to make you dysfunctional, they are teaching you false thought systems... >> he began... >> okay? . as sort of an underground phenomenon. >> society is insane to me, so i'm insane to yourverage dumbbell. >> you know, people in austin would sit home and get high inf the middlee night and watch this crazy guy vent about... crazy stuff. >> hillary clinton is a fascist worker of the rockefeller... >> narrator: unhinged conspiracy theory rants... >> biological attack is imminent.

big lead in that race for bill clinton and clinton did win pretty easily over bob dole. it was 1992, george h.w. bush, right at this moment in the '92 campaign. the middle of july when bush fell behind bill clinton. he never recovered. never got ahead, lost the election. that's the candidate right now, that's the past president, i should say, who's trajectory trump's most mimics. we'll see if that changes, but the last three presidents who all won re-election were very different place politically. if he's trailing by 11, not a big surprise here. his approval sitting at 42%. big disapproval number. this is the interesting thing. he still has, trump, an approval rating, a positive majority approval rating on the economy. remember, he wanted to run for re-election focusing on that, but the coronavirus has taken hold. look at that. way upside down there. 37-59 disapprove on the coronavirus. race relations also take iing center stage. more than 60% disapproving there. so again, it's a huge problem for him. this as well. can you be enthusic or comfo comfortable, potentially, a

clinton. was and so in many ways she's relied on laura bush is team to give her staff early on guidance about how things would operate in the east wing because hillary clinton had an office in the west wing, which was different in the way she planned to set things up. >> after the reverend right controversy, barack and michel went to nbc and talk to the today show about the issue and we got a chance to see them interacting as a couple were going to show a short clip from that and then talk about how they used in the campaign the national media to present a portrait of themselves. let's watch. >> so you never sit there and get upset about these? >> never, i never get upset, meredith. >> do i get upset? >> (laughs) she starts reading the newspapers. >> i take the paper and eyeball it up and i throw it in the >> corner (laughs) >> of course, there are frustrations. >> she gets protective of me. >> i do. >> i love my husband. you don't want anybody talking poorly about the people that you love. >>

four years ago, it was clinton who was already ahead by 9%. in the end, trump won the state by a razor thin margin of just 0.2%. as "usa today" pointed out this week, of the 104 published polls that surveyed voters in those three states from august through the election, 101 of them had clinton winning, two were tied, one in pennsylvania showed trump with a slight lead. many fell within the margin of error, but 15 had clinton up by double digits at some point. so what does it all mean? no doubt that you'll rather be joe biden than donald trump right now. but it also means there's time on the clock for anything to happen. and no matter what the polling shows for the next 108 days until the election, the upset of 2016 will give the trump campaign fodder to hold out hope, no matter what the data says. in that monmouth survey of pennsylvania that was released on wednesday the one where biden is up by 13%, many respondentents say they think they live amidst secret trump voters who ultimately could sway the election. 57% say they're communities are p

clinton and the clinton global initiative, i think that that remains an area that the public rightfully wants watchfulness on, and i think those of us in journalism continue to try to track because if she were to run again, then those people who have paid her money for speeches or have donated to her various causes have a relationship with her that we would want to examine. >> everyone watching this program knows about the many challenges this country faced during the eight years of the bush administration. it was a difficult time for the country, not only the 9/11 attacks but after that, the decision to pursue the wars in iraq and afghanistan. also during that time period, there was hurricane katrina and ultimately the 2008 financial crisis. and on the domestic policy side, the big initiative was no child left behind, the major education administration -- administration's major education initiative. laura bush continued to pursue her own interests even as the country responded to the various bush administration policies. how challenging is it -- we have seen this throughout the series

that's what i took clinton v jones to be saying. that's the kind of thing the president has to come in and show, a case specific argument about burden on the president. are you making that kind of argument at all? >> yes and no. not if what you mean by burden is just compiling and delivering to the documents to the house. but if you mean undermining and harassing the president. >> harassing and undermining the president, the point of some of those suits is to harass and undermine the president and the court let them go. they let them proceed. it said the only thing we are going to be concerned about is if you come into us and say, in defending those suits, you will be prevented from performing the responsibilities that we, the nation, need you to perform. are you making an argument of that kind? >> yes, in the courts below when the house goes to the limit of its there, it says probably it could not draw the blood of the president or read his diary. the powers they are seeking in the burden they will impose in the aggregate on the pr

457 times so far president trump has pardoned 25 and commuted the sentences of 11 people bill clinton offered clemency to 16 members of the domestic terrorist group the f a o l n they set off bombs in the u.s. killing several americans as for obama on his last day he let f.a.l. ends osco lopez rivera out of prison he pardoned general james cartwright who lied to the f.b.i. sound familiar and he commuted the sentence of chelsea manning who had leaked almost a 1000000 pages of military intelligence yes folks the media would have you believe that none of this happened none of it ever happened they'll tell you that commuting the sentence of roger stone was the worst abuse of a president's constitutional powers ever they are fake news and they will never end perspective if it upsets their narrative. and joining us now is columnist commentator and former reagan administration official and the author of swamp wars jeffrey lord hello my friend. hello there steve how are you at the end of this brutal not. wow i'm a little worked up if you could tell but let's get get to it then that this outra

bush and bill clinton. there were remarkable friendships between the presidents who wanted to get [inaudible] i had to look at how donald trump would'v would change the presidents club. i think that it united them together in lots of different ways. they are closer now than they would have been had donald trump not been elected. they have more in common than was president of trump. that's what i wanted to look into is where do they fit into the club and did i ask him that and he laughed. he was very honest in the interview and said i don't think i'm going to fit in very well. he is under no illusions and i think that he sees that even after. >> host: we asked about that in an interview last summer. here's the exchange. >> host: george w. bush relied on his father and richard nixon. have you reached out to former presidents, and if so, who and why? >> not much. i mean, i speak with george bush, spoke a little bit to thee father but really not too much. it's hard when people are against you. i disagreed with

steve that the bill clinton pardon his own brother or community sentence he'd been in jail roger and roger yes roger clinton mark roger i couldn't you and marc rich yes and marc rich exactly he did this with all kinds of people not notably susan mcdougal who went to prison because she refused to give up the goods on the clintons and whitewater and he pardoned her none of this seems to get mentioned here by my friends over there at c.n.n. and they're not alone i mean it just totally ignore facts that don't make their case for him and you know that this is the problem with the media the liberal media today they do this all of the time yeah all the time you're absolutely right i don't want you to get this now jeffrey from m.s.m. b.c.s. and n.b.c. the host of meet the press chuck todd. listen to what he said about the daytime shows on m s n b c for what it's worth there is no editorial point of view here on any of these newscasts on m s n b c in the daytime the label doesn't fit donald trump knows that on joe biden that he's a wild leftist that he's one tool of the radical left so instea

president bill clinton who was in office at the time of the genocide contributed 5 video message. it has been profoundly moving. at every town every opportunity to continue to add my voice to those across the world who grieve for the families of those kill to support the ongoing efforts of sing justice those lost and recover their remains and bring them home many relatives of the victims haven't found closure forensic experts still haven't dug out and completed work on all the remains newly identified victims a buried each year on july 11th in the memorial cemetery at port of sorry just outside celebrity it said yes i'm getting there get it finished if i buried my son in 2013 there were only 2 bones that i had hoped that more would be found but nothing has been so far i still hope they'll be something that they will find i'm not the tribute that 1st stone arch or the sun here i am with the remains of my father died murdered in the genocide of july 111905 strieber nitsa. it's the only crime in europe since world war 2 there's been declared a genocide and while many bosnian serbs co

thank you so much again for that secretary clinton.our show for tonight, but before we shortage. and it's because most poll workers are over 60 and with covid they are understandably not showing up. but fewer poll workers mean fewer polling stations are going to be open and that means longer lines that not everybody can afford to stay and wait in, especially people of color in working complas areas. but the good news is most poll working is paid and in some states you can be as young as 16 to do it. so if you are interested and you have the time to be a poll worker and you have the time to increase the chances of your democracy succeeding, this is your chance to save granny, protect your democracy and get paid. sign up at the link below to learn more. until tomorrow, stay safe out there, and wear a mask. like the president, now here it is, your moment of zen. >> i'm all for masks. i think masks are good, if i were in a group of people and i was close. >> you would wear one. >> i mean i would have no problem. actually, i had a mask on,

she gets compared to hillary clinton. i don't think she is like hillary clinton. mean she gets compared to jackie onassis and i think in some ways the glamour and the arts and the harnessing of culture i would make more of a comparison there actually. >> i think you could take pieces of first ladies, you know, and kind of compare them. there is some of the jackie o. with the cultivation of the image and the family and then, you know, you can see a little bit of laura bush and the kind of being able to maintain that popularity, being very popular with the base. she was also a popular fundraiser within her party. you know, hillary clinton is a more difficult comparison but i think michelle obama is ambitious in her own way just as hillary clinton clearly is. you can sort of take slices of the modern first ladies. i think michelle obama told c-span that it is the modern first ladies that she sort of relates to much more than some of the other first ladies, who seem sort of like, you know, pages of a history book. >> well, let's listen to the first lady talk about the

about hillary clinton she did win the election. polls so right now 'd if you're going to ask that by the way that's a great question what are the national polls now most some there are some national polls now that have doll drop losing by 16 at best i don't know honestly up by something i mean i guess it all myself i'm a little skeptical myself i hear you i'm just from from what we saw in the past and i hear what you're saying but a lot of investors and business people who who vote for trump who are watching and keeping a close eye on the market for them doing while because you know they're making their money they're going to go out and vote for trump are they not. know they feel like biden is safe. they think the stewardship that they did not trust hillary clinton with. their more apt to trust joe biden with because joe biden's a caretaker he's not a revolution. should marry he's not seen as a communist he's not seen as all those things that were fairly or unfairly cast that cast on hillary clinton so if in this particular clip ca

they think the stewardship that they did not trust hillary clinton with. their more apt to trust joe biden with because joe biden's a caretaker he's not a resolute. should marry he's not seen as a communist he's not seen as all those things that were fairly or unfairly cast to cast on hillary clinton so in this particular clip case when you take the economy when you take the racial unrest when you take the coronavirus and the bad handling of it and you put all that on top of donald trump it really if anything else favors the candidate the democrats are running who's a guy who by the way is you know. well he is who he is he's but it's not my place to judge any candidates i'm just like you're looking at the writers the fact of the matter is joe biden can sit in his bunker and end up doing very well because of all the things that the america that america is going through right now and that's well i mean those are the numbers that's a fact one bite and we know what to expect with biden well we'll wait and see how they actually are covered but speaking of the h