i worked in the clinton administration. i noticed this dynamic and how the best friend could speak in no way any aide or staffer could. they could speak more candidly. they would speak to the candidate in a way that no one else around him would at a time. he would say stop acting and talking like a politician. gary would get quite ratified by that but he would listen and change the way he spoke. they would have late night conversations. i thought this is an interesting dynamic. as i grew older and had this interest in writing a book, i looked at presidential literature to see if there was anything about that first friend and there was nothing. there was first wives, first sons but nothing about the role of the first friend throughout the megan presidency. i saw the niche and i thought it would be interesting to understand the men who had that job and how it affected real decisions. >> how did you ultimately make the decisions about the nine that would be included? mr. ginsberg: i knew i wanted to write about the clinton, ha

he was the person clinton entrusted.h making the first calls to the three candidates that he really wanted that were on his crucial list. i don't think it has ever been disclosed before. his first choice was not al gore. depending on who you talk to it , was either phil bradley or jay rockefeller. vernon jordan said it was jay rockefeller. vernon made the call. senator bradley and senator rockefeller both declined to run. jay rockefeller said i think you're going to lose and i will run for president in 1996. not his first choice. phil bradley did not want to be vice president and talk with warren christopher earlier in the process and then vernon calls his very good friend, colin powell and says are you interested? colin powell did not want to run. then it went to the longer list and vernon was a very key voice around the governor. he ultimately wound up picking al gore who ended up being a great vice president. in the transition bill clinton , wanted vernon jordan to be his attorney general. he came down in late novembe

and bill clinton has also popped in from time to time. he appeared in a clinton foundation junkett the other day with kamala harris. the topic was "empowering women." he's come a long way. the clinton foundation is working hard considering their circumstances. you don't hear much about it, which might change because remember, john durham in the durham report, when he does eventually deliver his report, there might be something interesting about the clinton foundation. if you remember last year, he widened his investigation to include the fbi inquiry into the clinton foundation, which curiously found nothing untoward, but maybe john durham found something else. the clinton foundation may hit the front pages yet. >> tucker: really quick. i haven't seen the public opinion polling. is there a hidden ground swell of support among americans for the reign of chelsea clinton at some point in the future? >> i don't know that there is at the moment. but then she's just doing some background work. she's i guess you'd call it the ground work. she's p

bill clinton has popped in from time to time and appeared as a clinton foundation junk at the other dayas empowering women so he's come a long way so the clinton foundation is working hard. considering the circumstances, but you just don't hear much about it, which might change because whenever john durham and the durham report, well, when he does eventually deliver his report, there might be something interesting about the clinton foundation because if you remember last year he widened his investigation to include the fbi inquiry into the clinton foundation, which curiously found nothing that may be john durham foundet something else, o may hit the front pages yet. >> tucker: really quick, haven't seen the public opinion polling. as they are a groundswell of support among americans for the reign of chelsea clinton at some point in the future, do you know? >> well, look, i don't know that there is at the moment, but then she's just doing some background work. i guess you would call at the groundwork because she is polishing her reputation. she's got a very pricey job at some corporates

clinton with the clinton fund. bush with his think tank in dallas churning out policy proposals, trying to influence policy. think about barack obama writing book. they are all in some way following the nixon model. nixon didn't have the option of retiring. he wanted to remain active. he told john taylor during this period that he had to remain active for his own health. and to keep his mind as sharp as he wanted it to be. he spends years writing book after book on his main area of expertise, foreign policy. and he becomes a trusted adviser and confidant to three presidents. he doesn't just write books, he writes books that matter, writes books that people read, and people absorb, and they pay attention to. he didn't just say something. he had something important to say when he was writing these books and when he was speaking. and he showed, through this process, he still had an important role to play as an outside counsellor. ronald reagan read the real war in 1980. he was inspired by it. it confirmed his own view

clinton: -- still buy?linton: there's a number of areas and people are waiting for pullback, when can i get a 10% pullback? we have not seen a 5% pullback. we are focusing on trends and areas that we think have long-term, sustainable growth. one area i like his health care because it has aging demographics, we are getting older and you spend more on prescription medication. there is deals in this, i expect some of the cash and a lot of innovation. whether it's the covid vaccine, or cancer, there's innovation in health care sector which i think will be good for long-term growth. francine: and where exactly are we in the m&a cycle? you are expecting a lot of deals and we have seen 2.5 trillion deals since the start of the pandemic. the figures are enormous. how much more consolidation can you do? clinton: you will continue to see a pickup, whether it's technology or health care. and cash will be used for stock buybacks, we have seen a tremendous amount of buybacks for year-to-date. there's also increasing div

called president clinton 42 and president clinton it made his day.told his staff i'm pretty sure it was 43 who called him that so president bush was the vice president for eight years and they were both adversaries and i'm not sure that president bush ever thought he would be picked but talk about how that relationship grew between the two of them. >> i should point out whoever who everasked the question thats the book and predates from when i was in the inner circle. do i know the answer, i do. president reagan sort of charge george bush to be the candidate in the 11th hour. historians among you will remember former president ford was the first choice and that didn't work out so it became instead george bush from texas and the two of them became best friends andg the timing of this question is perfect because i just had lunch the other day with secretary baker and susan baker. a lot of you might remember secretary baker was the first white house chief of staff which was amazing, considering the fact james baker ran the campaign in 1980. but about th

42 once and president clinton, it made his day. he told his staff all my gosh, i'm pretty sure it was 43 he called him back, he just called me 42, i am like a member of the family now, i thought that was funny. >> so president bush was reagan's vice president for eight years and is a question about, they were adversaries and i'm not sure president bush ever thought he would be picked for vp but talk about how that relationship grew between the two of them. >> i should say weber asked the question, i apologize, it predates my book and it predates when i was in president bush's inner circle so i know the answer, i do just from being around for 25 years, president reagan sort of chose george bush to be his vp candidate in the 11th hour at the 1980 republican convention, not his first choice. historians among will remember it was former president for and that did not work out so it became, instead george bush from texas and the two men became best friends and the timing of the question is really perfect because i had lunch the other da

and becoming friends with bill clinton to the point in april of 1994, bill clinton arrives at the funeral to deliver a magisterial eulogy in which he say may the day of judging richard nixon only by watergate come to an end. nixon said only those who been in the deepest valleys with appreciate how magnificent it is on the highest mountain top. in a life spent constantly flav navigating the peaks and valleys, nixon could look back on his entire life and for once enjoy the view. he had made it back. i'm happy to take questions or comments. >> thank you. i want to ask the first question. can you give me what you think richard nixon would think of the current media aree fla and what i mean by that is -- what i mean by that is in this day and age we have media that is so instant and so quick and spread viral with social media. can you give me your take of what he would think of that and how he would use it to his advantage or might be a disadvantage to him. i don't know that he thought that much highly of them than our current president does. he wrote a review and it ran in new york times and

brown is backed by hillary clinton and the congressional black caucus. jeff zeleny joins us live from cleveland. a test of the democratic party's struggle at an interesting moment. >> john, there's no doubt. this is not a question of the democratic majority. whoever wins the primary tomorrow is almost certain to win the general election. this is a democratic district. but there is a question about the direction of the democratic party. are progressives going to see a moment here that they really have not seen all yearlong in other primary races across the country. we spent the weekend in cleveland. and i can tell you there is a sense of a reviving some of the old divisions going back to the 2016 campaign, you mentioned hillary clinton endorsing shawn tell brown, a council member here. nina turner, a familiar face a long-time bernie sanders ally. bernie sanders was out in force endorsing her. establishment versus progressive. and we had a flavor here of

so far no one has been held accountable including hillary clinton.j-ig found 17 significant errors and omissions. hillary clinton and her team basically were paying for this fake anti-trump steele dossier that had so many problems in it. the doj-ig pointed those problems out and hillary clinton was tweeting out about a covert computer server in the trump organization communicating with russian bank called alfa bank. the i.g. for the doj said that was false. that was debunked, that was wrong. there was no hotline to unlocking the mysteries of trump ties to russia as nsc jake sullivan said. this fake alpha story was planted according to christopher steele. he testified in british court, that information came from a democrat lawyer. this is knowingly planted inside of our fbi agent bureau false information to go after citizens, regular civilians. your comment on that? >> you're exactly right and this is where we can be mad at hillary clinton and the democrat operatives but since people within the department of justice and the fbi knew it was false and l

but nobody is done a book on clinton because hillary clinton got into the mix and then she didn't win. now the me to movement our son why he was impeached and somebody that is right for a revision, it happens so that would come by way of documentary and a new book probably not from political process anymore because really a really clinton lost, retired from that predict somebody does it book on clinton you will see him rise a bit predict. >> so i'm happy got through that it was amazing you got through that without it joe frankly predict and democrat good morning. it. >> good morning and thank you for taking my call and i'm happy for everybody. thank you on behalf of everybody. this is a great survey as though hundred always and the panel is exceptional. my question is regards like categories and which categories if there's any particular one that each of the panelists codified is more important in the top four looking at presidents and i just want to say today is the fourth of july. i have two kids who share birthdays with presence kool-aid and got john quincy adams we tell them that

42 once, and president clinton, it made his day. he told his staff, oh, my you know, i, i'm pretty sure it was 43 who called him that. he just called me 42. i'm now like a member of the family. >> yeah. >> which i thought was very funny. >> so president bush was reagan's vice president for eight years, and there's a question here about, you know, they were adversaries. i'm not sure that president bush ever thought he would be picked for the vp, but talk a little bit about how that relationship grew between the two of them. >> well, i should point out to whoever asked the question, i apologize, that predates my book, and it predates from when i was in president bush's inner circle. do i know the answer? i do just from being around for 25 years. president reagan sort of chose george bush to be his vp candidate in the 11th hour at the 1980 republican convention. he was not his first choice. historians among you will remember it was former president ford was actually his first choice. and that did not work out. so it became instead geor

he said in clinton's time sent cruise missiles after my father and got away. but he been in afghanistan for ten years you still do not have them. in clinton's time america was smart. not like the bull that runs after the red scarf. it's a very important point because of bret stephens of the "new york times" for example just a couple of months ago wrote an article criticizing withdrawal from afghanistan citing bin laden's taunts that america is the tiger they will turn around and run away forgive them a truck bombing or two. bret stephens is one of the opinion writers of the new york time said this is proof america must pay and continue to double and triple down forever and ever. these were simple taunts by bin laden. this is exactly the reaction are trying to get out of brett stevens and the american establishment. america needs to stay at war until we literally can't anymore because our dollar is completely destroyed in her empire completely broken like what happened in the soviets. >> subtitles how to and the war on terrorism. how do you define that war in w

his chief of staff told me i think it was 43 who called president clinton 42 once and president clinton had made his day. he told the staff oh my gosh. i'm pretty sure was 43 who called in that. he said now i'm a member of the family. >> president bush was reagan's vice president for eight years and there's a question here about they were adversaries and i'm not sure president bush ever thought he would be picked for vp but talk about how that relationship grew between the two of them. >> i should point out and i apologize it predates my book and it predates when i was in president bush's inner circle so i know the answer, i do just from being around for 25 years. president reagan wanted george bush to be his veep p. candidate in the 11th hour at the republican convention. historians among you will remember it was former president ford to encourage a man that did not work out. george bush from texas and the two men became best friends. the question is really perfect because i had lunch the other day with secretary baker and susan baker and a lot of you might remember secretary baker act

but nobody is done a book on clinton because hillary clinton got into the mix and then she didn't win. now the me to movement our son why he was impeached and somebody that is right for a revision, it happens so that would come by way of documentary and a new book probably not from political process anymore because really a really clinton lost, retired from that predict somebody does it book on clinton you will see him rise a bit predict. >> so i'm happy got through that it was amazing you got through that without it joe frankly predict and democrat good morning. it. >> good morning and thank you for taking my call and i'm happy for everybody. thank you on behalf of everybody. this is a great survey as though hundred always and the panel is exceptional. my question is regards like categories and which categories if there's any particular one that each of the panelists codified is more important in the top four looking at presidents and i just want to say today is the fourth of july. i have two kids who share birthdays with presence kool-aid and got john quincy adams we tell them that

let's talk about this relationship between president bush and president clinton. i heard president bush, he said you know i kind of liked him when he was governor back didn't like him so much when he really gets me but i kinda like and begin left office. and then of course adams and jefferson, they were good friends and then not good friends. and then they were good friends again. but i think the president bush and bill clinton had this special relationship and talk about a life will serve him a they did some amazing work. >> they really did. and you and i talked about this a couple of days ago because this is hosted by the national archives and we did want to talk about that that relationship and what happened between former presidents and they really are the presidents club and there's a great book written by the great michael duffey about call the presidents club they really do have a social relationship with each other and here is a picture of them with the former presidents at that time and i confess that i am phone evolving their backstage. they were about r

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clinton to keep agents away from him.i get further away, the ability to secure him reduces. it is the advent of the tv president you don't want the agents in the shot. keep them further away we went a vision of a strong independent president nobody protecting him or nobody needs to be there. that is a downward cycle with the rigor of their security. then also the misconduct is allowed because of the arrogance and lack of transparency and culture of the secret service if they can keep classified program secret then they seem to believe they can also keep their weaknesses and some of their humiliating episodes a secret both of those come to a a head during president obama's two administrations episode after episode of security gaffes and unbelievable bad boy behavior. >> i'm chroniclingli as i read everything bad during the obama years then i just have to stop because the volume was too much the extraordinary racist culture of the service the horrible e-mails and racist jokes. remembering president obama is a special case t

one is that after clinton's presidency there is an effort especially by president clinton to keep agents away from him. as they get further and further away their ability to secure him reduces. segment of the tv president redo not what the agents in the shot, keep them a little bit further away. we want strong independent president no one protects him no one is to be there. that starts a downward cycle in terms of the rigor of their security. there is also the misconduct is allowed because arrogance, secrecy lack of transparency in the culture of the secret service. they can keep classified programs and important to protect the president's secret they seem to believe they can also keep their weaknesses and some of their humiliating episodes a secret. both of those things come to a horrible head during present obama's two administrations purchased episode after episode. but both kinds security gaps and unbelievable bad boy. >> i was chronicling as i'm reading and writing down everything bad that happens when the obama years. a certain point i just have to stop. because the volume of it wa

and hillary clinton. if they so much appear at a local event, they are stalking them. they are stalking them at the house. he has certainly made violent threats against officials that he disagrees with. he considers himself to be the essence of christianity. i know a number of christians who would disagree with that. you look at a guy like that and you say, why do we pay attention to this? well, he does get a fair number of viewers, and he's also an example of people all over the country who are doing this kind of thing. he is somebody we have followed for a long time. my colleague keeps his eye trained on him . i mean, this guy, i think he lives in ohio. he has arranged trips for people to go visit the clintons. host: here's the video posted by the right wing watch blog, your youtube page. >> friends, as it was in the day of noah, so shall be the coming of fallen man. what would you tell us? that this jab is melting and working and screwing up your dna! the same thing that was giong on before the days of

one is after clinton presidency, there's the effort especially by president clinton to keep asians awaym him and as i get further away from their ability to secure him reduces and it's the advent of the resident. you don't want the agents and buckshot and keep them a little further away, strong independent president, nobody protecting him, nobody needs to be there so that sparks a downward cycle in terms of their security. there is also misconduct is allowed and because of the arrogance secrecy and lack of transparency in this culture of the secret service if they can keep classified programs important to protect the president secret, they seem to believe they can also keephe weaknesses and some of their humiliating episodes and both of those come to a horrible head during president obama's, two administrations episode after episode of both kind. security cap unbelievable back. >> as i'm reading, i'm writing down everything bad that happens during the obama here's and i was like i just have to stop because the volume was too much. you have extraordinary racist culture of the service, ho

without vernon, i don't think we'll have a president clinton, when clinton lost his reelection for arkansasinking leaving public life for good. he was really distraught. now he's the youngest ex-governor in u.s. history. only a three hour breakfast of instant grit, he gave him a stern talking that nobody else could that clinton decided to stay in the game. the governor and eight years later, ten years later he was the president-elect of the united states. what you see is the complete reliance clinton had on jordan throughout his life. clinton offered jordan the job, he was desperate to get him to be the first person of color in that job. he had 77 attorney generals before that opportunity to pick attorney general, all white men. he wanted to change that and he wanted to change with vernon. vernon says i can be more valuable as your first friend. any time clinton needed help, he would say call vernon and vernon was there. he helped. most importantly he was clinton's main source of relaxation whether on the golf course or anywhere else. jordan had the best judgment and intelligence of anyone

he took on a hate of the clinton that we would hear echoed in 2018 when he had his rant at the senate judiciary committing and what she talked about the revenge of the clintons and his angry tirade was before the committee would have been a disqualifying performance. >> my former colleague refers to this book as the confirmation hearing. [inaudible] what did you come up with in your assessment, much of the confirmation process and what did it do wrong? >> i cannot honestly think of anything it did right, karen. i think what i have here is actually nothing in here that was not available and would not have been available to the senate if they had done honest confirmation hearing that they should have. which would be appropriate for giving 853-year-old, a 54-year-old man a lifetime seat on the supreme court. there were people, there to to the brick kavanaugh hearing. this is before sexual assault allegations came up. i remember watching those hearings at my desk at work and watch it in spare time between editing. i was sort of a blown away. i only vaguely knew of brick kavanaugh. this is

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but memory serves me right, top democrats never abandoned bill clinton. the public didn't really back the notion of impeaching the guy. however, the offense. i do remember the case of richard nixon, a prominent republican, howard baker and others said it's over, you have to go. we know what happened when top democrats abandoned lyndon johnson in 1968. no impeachment going on. an unpopular war. he decided not to run again. it's when your party turns on you that it can be problematic, john. already top democratic leaders in new york state have turned on him. chuck schumer and others saying you have to go. i'm wondering how that plays out. when you lose your own, you've lost period. >> that's right, neil. he's not a president. he's a governor of new york. we're comparing him to clinton and nixon but he was called out in march of last year, in april giving the daily briefings as possible presidential timber. as you note, the ratings dropped from 70 or so percent in march when he was giving sound advice to the public in conflict with what was coming out of the

than hillary clinton turned around and said there is covert communications.. msnbc ran with this fake story. it is still out there. what do you say? >> there is a lot out there. the starting point was the hillary clinton decision to distract from her own scandal. john brennan for all his flaws, warned the fbi three days in advance there, is a big distraction about trump story coming and there was. the point is not opposition research but complete peddling of manufactured information, that is own category of sleaziness. what durham is looking at, maybe the law enforcement, the intelligence communities use of this. not just using false information but knowingly using false information. that is when you start to get into the world of criminality where you talk about audit services fraud, wire fraud or obstruction of justice. we have a period of time where the doj, i'm sorry the fbi general counsel manufactured, changed the meaning of an email to help the fbi spy on the trump camp. these are headliners in any other administration. elizabeth: -- wiretap. that is a

inspector general he concluded that the dnc in hillaryai clinton's campaign paid for opposition researchtion plays a central and essential role in the fbi's push to get wiretaps against the trump team, the d.o.j. watchdog criticized the fbi for 17 significant errors in it was a debunked claim the d.o.j. inspector general the false claim that the organization computers were secretly communicating with awful bank computers and russia connected to putin. steel push that claimant testified in a british court that a democrat lawyer gave him the information in hillary clinton turns around and says there is secret communication and the unlocking of the mysteries of the trump pressure connection and the seeker hotline msnbc ran with this alphabet story, it's still out t there what do you say. >> there's a routehe there, the starting point of all of this was hillary rodham clinton to distract from her own scandal in john brennan for all of his flaws warned the fbi three days in advance there's going to be a big distraction story about trump in russia and sure enough there was, the first part of t

and that's like the samantha powers and the hillary clinton's into large extent, joe biden, although he's been better on i've got to stand throughout his career. but backing all of this is a professional class of the tanker analyst policy makers awaiting the wings and advise professionally the dc policymakers. and of course, that's all funded along with the politicians, by what eisenhower warned about in his farewell address, which is the war industries, a sprawling military industrial complex that profits from war that profits no one else. not the american soldiers under my commander died for $30000.00 a year and not the people living on $2.00 a day who we, you know, drop our bombs upon. so i think that's really the cruel nexus that has proven a formula for forever war major danny session of something that more of the true history of the united states after this break ah, join me every 1st day on the alex summon show and i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politics sport business, i'm show business. i'll see you then me best buy survival guides, which they say, here's my goa

they are doing what hillary clinton said five years ago. they've created a borderless hemisphere, and the american people need to understand this is deliberate. they are trying to shift blame and shift everything else to where it doesn't belong, trying to attack governors who are actually trying to t do the rigt thing for their constituents, governor desantis and governor abbott. >> sean: they are smart political observers. all these draconian measures, vaccine passports, mask mandates, for citizens, and not even testing for illegal immigrants in record numbers. your reaction? >> this is the exact kind of thing that the american people see and feel and recognize instantly as just plain wrong. when we have to go through all these hurdles ourselves, and isen we look and we say, other people, because they came here illegally, don't have to be subject to what we are subject to? this is how voters turn out in record numbers. it inspires anger, because people know the government is doing something they should not be doing. but look, on the people

none of it is special and none about hillary clinton.t's daily district business and that was another thing that got him pulling on the thread. he realized this whole thing was garbage and was able to get through it and started the qanon casualties and openly and cnn interviewed him and he's really the only former qanon believer who has been extensively been going on the record. they are all embarrassed. they are still dealing. i talked to this woman who is really into it and i talked to other people, he's the first person that became an out and public about this. a lot of cult-like movements that have group but qanon is so new that it doesn't have that. >> and embarrassing. >> it's embarrassing, how was i ever this stupid? one of the reasons that i wanted to write the book to reassure people that you're not stupid for falling for this. you know, you were misled, maybe, maybe you followed into the wrong thing but doesn't mean you're stupid or doesn't have value but you found the thing that told you what you wanted to hear. that's all of