there is still a long way to in clive.ing towards her with a knife, stabbing her several times. fiona elias was the girl's original target. both say they thought they'd be killed. today's guilty verdict is notjust for me, but for all teachers everywhere. no member of school staff should ever feel fearful for their own safety merely for carrying out their duties. this is the blade the girl used. she was allowed to return to classes, but only if her father carried out daily checks. and close the door. arshan remembers the panic of the moment as pupils ran in every direction. i saw her holding that knife with a teacher holding her back, at risk to protect others. hywel griffiths, bbc news, swansea crown court. tom symondsjoins me now. clearly, parents will be worried when they see two stories of that on the news tonight and i will type on the news tonight and i will say eventually that schools are safe but to give wider butjust to give you the wider picture. the �*of picture. the number of offences involving knives has been g

and i have to tell you, last night i went to clive davis's annual grammy bash.it was the 50th anniversary of his party, and they raised millions of dollars. now, earlier this week, i sat down with the ceo of the recording academy and the executive producer of tonight's show. let's take a look. >> like last april. that's what i said. the i did it. >> amid a backdrop of tragedy, the nation's deadliest air disaster since 2001 and the most destructive wildfires in southern california history. >> grammys. and this platform is cool, but it's not the most important thing in the world. >> recording academy ceo harvey mason jr. and grammys executive producer ben winston are tasked with putting on a show that some thought should be called off. there have been some people who say award season should be canceled. this is not what we need right now. >> if you could actually take the grammys where we know we've got an audience who are going to watch it, we know we've got the biggest stars in the whole world that are sitting there, and we bring real awareness to what's happene