and again, if we and i'm going to again put us clktively in the establishment, we are going to be held accountable. it is our job to get these people to do the right thing and that's why we, especially you media guys who are out there need to start holding these folks' feet to the fire. >> tax reform, can you go into a little more detail on the way you'd approach it? >> sure. on the personal side, start there. you know, i think that bowles simpson made a good stab in that direction. i can argue with the tweaks of it. but they collected more revenue with lower rates across the board and a much more progressive tax system. now that is because boles dominated it. i might want to tweak it here or there. it's doable. they've done it. they can pull 50 examples off the shelf. corporate tax reform. here's a simple case where both sides are talking like they like corporate tax reform and there's -- i know, corporate tax reform, your eyes have very glazed over. i know it. i'm going to give you two words that i should listen for. these are words we all understand the meaning of. when you hear the