in other words, obey the w.h.o., bill gates, clow schwab, the world economic forum, china, or pay theere's my counterproposal. nothing. we give you nothing. okay, we take care of our people, we decouple from the w.h.o. and from china. joining us now, victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoover institution and dinesh d'souza, conservative author, filmmaker, host of the podcast. victor, these plans are what you and i have been talking about for years and years and years. they never liked the concept of national sovereignty. they've always wanted to get rid of it. >> yeah, it's the medical version of the international criminal court of the paris climate accord. it doesn't work. we had something like it, laura, it was called the $5 billion a year world health organization. how did that work out? they lied about the origins, the transmissibility and the nature of the covid virus, completely corrupted by the chinese and we had all of these scientists, some of them very prominent, dr. fauci, dr. collins, they all had various roles in supporting and subsidizing in an international fashio