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and joining me now is the assistant democratic leader of the house, jim clyburn. he was in one of those meetings with hillary clinton today. did she ask for your jim clyburn vote or support for president of the united states? did she ask you? not directly. thank you for having me but, no, she did not ask directly. i think mrs. clinton knows i have made it a practice that as long as south carolina remains a preprimary state that is allowed to move, iowa, new hampshire, nevada and, of course, south carolina. i have made it a practice not to publicly get involved until after the south carolina primary. and she knows that. by the way, i was in three of her meetings today. >> you've given us the protocol. can you imagine endorsing bernie sanders, webb, chafee, who is the other guy running? >> i have a very good imagination. you know me very well. yes, i can imagine it. we'll see what happens as it progresses. >> what was the pitch to you? did you hear something different today you thought was a new appeal she was making to win to lock up this nomination? >> i think eve

clyburn. >> thank you very much madame leader. as the leader indicated today is an interesting day. we are celebrateing the day that south carolina happened to have been the state that ratified the 14th amendment on this day bringing the number of states necessary for the 14th amendment to become a part of our constitution on this date, the day that the governor will sign a piece of legislation bringing -- taking that flag off the ground of the state house. they'll remove it at 10:00 in the morning. now, the interesting thing about the state house in columbia south carolina, and the confederate battle flag, the flag of the army of northern virginia, that's what that is. there were three versions of the confederate flag. this was never one of them. the proponents of this flag tried forever to have it adopted, have it given some official status, the daughters of the confederacy always rejected it. and when robert e. lee surrendered at aphe urged all of his followers to furl this flag. in one sta

clyburn clyburn, and some other things have taken place.ut i want to share with you a very brief story about my relationship with this whole issue, in terms of with the flag. i'll make it very brief. when i was about between 5 and 6 years old i was raised in a little small town called roseville, south carolina. and my aunt and her friend, missmays, we'd go on cat creek road, i think miss knight, you know where that is and go fishing. it was a two-way road. as i stood there as a kid play playing on the side of the road while they werefishing in the pond on the side a pickup truck came by with white youth in it confederate flag in the back, and they called out to us the "n" word and flung a bag of nails that hit me in my face. that led to an infection under my eye and every day since that time, when i get up i see the remnants or scar as a result of that particular incident. now, many of us here grew up in a very difficult time in south carolina's history. i'm 57 years old so in orange orangeburg, south carolina, i saw both sides of segregati

clyburn. let me say this. some of you don't know it, but there are five members in this body who came in together. mr. clyburn, mr. mr. whipper, mr. howard and mr. limehouse where is chip? you got too big a head i couldn't see it. but i think it's interesting -- you know i think it's interesting though out of a class of 22 we still have five members who serve in this body. and we were here during the time that we debated this somewhat issue in the '99-2000 time period. so we have been here. and the emotion in this chamber is very much like it was at that time. it is a very emotional issue. thank you for listening to me. i appreciate it. i appreciate what you guys do all of you. >> thank you. pending question is the adoption of amendment 30. representative brown you wish to be heard? representative brown is recognized. >> thank you, mr. speaker. what i'm going to say i was going to say later this afternoon. but brian white stood up here and so eloquently talked about heritage. i have had so many phone calls and

clyburn clyburn, and some other things have taken place.ut i want to share with you a very brief story about my relationship with this whole issue, in terms of with the flag. i'll make it very brief. when i was about between 5 and 6 years old i was raised in a little small town called roseville, south carolina. and my aunt and her friend, missmays, we'd go on cat creek road, i think miss knight, you know where that is and go fishing. it was a two-way road. as i stood there as a kid play playing on the side of the road while they werefishing in the pond on the side a pickup truck came by with white youth in it confederate flag in the back, and they called out to us the "n" word and flung a bag of nails that hit me in my face. that led to an infection under my eye and every day since that time, when i get up i see the remnants or scar as a result of that particular incident. now, many of us here grew up in a very difficult time in south carolina's history. i'm 57 years old so in orange orangeburg, south carolina, i saw both sides of segregati

congressman jim clyburn brought some history to the debate. >> when robert e.llowers to furl this flag. store it away he said. put it in your attics. why? because robert e. lee said he considered this emblem to be a symbol of treason. >> later, congressman john lewis put the whole issue in perspective. >> hate is too heavy a burden to bear. but i was marching across that bridge in selma in 1965. i saw some of the law enforcement officers sheriff's deputies, wearing on their helmet the confederate flag. i don't want to go back and as a country we cannot go back. >> that flag for many americans for me represents slavery and lynching. but it also represents what congressman clyburn quoted the confederate general robert e. lee saying it represents why would we as a country celebrate those that betrayed it and killed american soldiers to try to secede from it. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> tony down or trump it up? let's play "hardball." >> good evening. i'm steve kornacki. reince priebus called and he wants his party back. h

>> well south carolina congressman and assistant democratic leader jim clyburn joins me now. as always congressman, good to see you. thank you for being with us today. >> thanks for having me. >> well as you saw, john mccain certainly taking some delight in cutting off john kerry and with a comment about the north korea deal. obviously north korea cheated, we didn't know about it and that is the predicate but that was years earlier. that was during the george w. bush administration. kerry, of course now trying to sell this iran deal. first let me ask you about the news of your colleague chaka fattah. it's just come down. we just played his response to luke russert saying he's done nothing wrong and will prove his innocence but he's going to step back from his appropriations leadership. i assume as a member of the leadership that you would agree with that step? >> yes i do. thank you so much for having me. i'm very very concerned about this. i know that we have been aware now for almost two years that an investigation was under way there in philadelphia. i'm very hopeful that

money but the peoples' money and we need to get it out, and that's why commissioner o'reilly and clyburn and i are working together on a bipartisan deal to make sure that rate of return carriers have what commissioner pai has called a two-track commission, and it's we have a model with a new models and one for the old system. >> and commissioner, thank you. >>> i think you captured the sentiment perfectly when you said when it comes to broadband rural service should be there and high quality and that's why i proposed the plan to make sure when it comes to raol americans we don't leave them, we give them the same opportunity. my concern is given the timeframe we have committed to which is to get it done by the end of the year, i think it would be better to make the approach to have a target to the stand alone problem. there are abuses that need to be corrected. we can't let the necessary and perfect be the enemy of the good. >> thank you very much. the other thing lifeline my view is that its really an important program but there is fraud and abuse and one of the things that happens aroun

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bill clyburn and i serve on several committees and hosey. there is nobody in the state of south carolina that i respect more than lonnie hosey. my respect is not given. it's earned. i don't have many heroes but you're one, lonnie hosey. all men put their pants on the same way. we are all equal. some of us rise to the occasion at difficult times and become heroes. i've said this up here before. some of you maybe didn't hear it. i'm going to talk about it a moment. why is lonnie hosey my hero? lonnie hosey in vietnam as a young marine, a young marine, was called in an ambush moving forward to save a company that had already been ambushed. our military guys, two l-shaped ambushes had been set up. the first one to catch the first company, the second ambush to catch the second company coming to their rescue as they knew the americans would do. lonnie was wounded, trying to save other marines. but yet, he fought forward. lonnie was wounded a second time. as he continued to fight forward to try to save the first marines. at the end he had reached t

bill clyburn and i serve on several committees and hosey. there is nobody in the state of south carolina that i respect more than lonnie hosey. my respect is not given. it's earned. i don't have many heroes but you're one, lonnie hosey. all men put their pants on the same way. we are all equal. some of us rise to the occasion at difficult times and become heroes. i've said this up here before. some of you maybe didn't hear it. i'm going to talk about it a moment. why is lonnie hosey my hero? lonnie hosey in vietnam as a young marine, a young marine, was called in an ambush moving forward to save a company that had already been ambushed. our military guys, two l-shaped ambushes had been set up. the first one to catch the first company, the second ambush to catch the second company coming to their rescue as they knew the americans would do. lonnie was wounded, trying to save other marines. but yet, he fought forward. lonnie was wounded a second time. as he continued to fight forward to try to save the first marines. at the end he had reached t

serious issue and you and i and people across america away huge debt of gratitude to commissioner clyburnho took this issue sitting at the desk of the fcc for 10 years since martha wright filed the first petition and brought it forward. so there was a decision about interstate. but you know what happens is whack-a-mole starts getting played here. we can do it here so we will move it over here next month we have interested that we are doing next month. the point that you make about videophones is another legitimate point. the reality is what we are talking about is a monopoly that is granted to persons to determine how people communicate and like any monopoly it into being exploitive. the people who are hurt by that exploitation are the very people who rely on it and i can assure you that omission or clyburn keeps their feet to the fire on this and i am fully supportive of her efforts. >> that's good news mr. chairman and i have a poetic about this decision. let me move on. my time is up to its. >> your time has expired. >> we are going to do a second round of questions so if you are here

clyburn. >> thank you madam leader. today is an interesting day. we are celebrating the days after happened to of been the state that ratified the 14th amend met on this day bringing the number of states necessary to be a part of our constitution on this day. the day the governor signed a piece of legislation taking that flag across the grounds of the state house. they remove it at 10:00 in the morning. the interesting thing about this is this is a picture of the statehouse in columbia, south carolina, and the confederate battle flag. the flag of the army of northern virginia. that is what that is. there are three versions of the confederate flag. this was never one of them. the proponents of this flag tried forever to have it adopted and given official status, the daughters of the confederacy rejected it. when robert e lee surrendered at appomattox, he urged all of his followers to furl the flag. in one statement he said put it in your addicts. -- antics. he didn't want to be buried in his confederate uniform. he said this was a symbol and the uni

. >> he clearly doesn't know the history of the flag as jim clyburn explained it today. >> no he doesn't probably been brought up with this whole, you know it honors the valor of southern -- that others grew up with. they learn the history in south carolina. there's an accepted history. let's hope others pay attention. >> we will have to leave it there for the night. thank you very much. we'll be right back. this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain. and clearer skin. this is my body of proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis from the inside out ...with humira. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain stop further joint damage and clear skin in many adults. doctors have been prescribing humira for nearly 10 years. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis serious,sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions and new or

. >> he clearly doesn't know the history of the flag as jim clyburn explained it today. >> no, he doesn't flag and he's probably been brought up with this whole, you know, it honors the valor of southern -- that others grew up with. they learn the history in south carolina. there's an accepted history. let's hope others pay attention. >> we will have to leave it there for the night. thank you very much. we'll be right back. better existence. but these birds are suffering. because this better place turned out to have an unreliable cell phone network and the videos on their little bird phones kept buffering. birds hate that. so they came back home. because they get $300 for switching back to verizon. and so can you! verizon, come home to the best network. we live in a pick and choose world. choose choose choose. but at bedtime? ...why settle for this? enter sleep number don't miss the final days of the lowest prices of the season. sleepiq technology tells you how well you slept and what adjustments you can make. you like the bed soft. he's more hardcore. so your sleep goes from good to grea

south carolina congressman james clyburn added his own thoughts. he said "i look forward to the citizens of south carolina being under one flag -- the american flag. joining us from columbia south carolina we have cnn's don lemon. don, you had the first interview with nikki haley a short time ago after the flag came down. what did she say? >> she said a lot in that interview and it was probably the most personal interview that i have seen of her where, you know you interview governors and lawmakers and, you know they come off as politicians. she did not come off as a politician. she came off as someone who is very very human and very very touched by this. and i think the one word that she said was -- that i can say about this interview, i think, that she learned from this was empathy, empathy. how to walk in someone else's shoes. and she thinks that's what this is a lesson in. take a look. >> it's important for people to know what it's like to be in another person's shoes and if you watch the legislative debate, that's what happened. people put the

in a pretty extraordinary moment, jim clyburn called for the entire house to adjourn in protest. >> i cannot believe that today we have been asked to condone a backwards step. why, we in this body do such is beyond me. mr. speaker. i move that we now adjourn. >> that was an extraordinary call there tempers flaired on the floor as they decided whether to vote. >> all those in favor say aye? all those opposed? the aye's have it. the aye's have it. previous question is -- >> mr. speaker. i ask for a recorded vote. mr. speaker. >> it was a dramatic scene there, early arguments spark this show of emotion for king jeffries of new york. >> mr. speaker? had this confederate battle flag prevailed in war 150 years ago, i would not be standing here today as a member of the united states congress. i would be here as a slave. >> get your cell phones out we want to know what you think. tonight's question is base ikic. you can go to pulse.msnbc.ed. we'll have your comments soon. i heard your moving remarks there. this is something that as you know, a lot of people feel we should be way past shouldn'

clyburn for five minutes. mr. clyburn: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i would like first of all to thank the speaker of this house and the other members who came to charleston last month to help us with the ceremonies for the senator. i'd also like to thank especially my colleagues senator tim scott senator lindsey graham congressman sanford for joining with us as we stood with the governor of south carolina and called for removing the confederate battle flag from the grounds of the state house. this afternoon at 4:00, as a result of a very definitive vote early this morning of 94-20, the governor's going to sign the bill, and tomorrow morning at 10:00 the flag will be removed from the state house . i regret that i'm not going to be able to accept the governor's invitation and be there this afternoon because around 4:00 this afternoon we're going to be voting here on this floor. i understand there will be around 25 votes, and 24 of them i might feel all that bad, but one of them i cannot afford to miss because that one -- i might feel that bat

commissioner clyburn asked us to go out -- the. >> with me ask mr. lewis on the federal robberies because that's a another challenge. the question is can we force a zoning issue to get you guys owning a ability like we do municipalities? >> senator byrd via wood -- the agency could keep the money they get to pay for the cost of processing it. there would be common forms and contracts by the need for more let's lishan. there's an expectancy of lease were no so when somebody invests their. >> that make it governor lewis to respond. >> federal lands in indian country has been a long issue in regards to our unique situation as the nature of indian land in regards to fracks and land interest that are just so critical and sometimes are one of the major obstacles to build outs with regards to right of ways. if we can somehow streamline that process to the bureau of indian affairs and department of interior that would really help out tribal infrastructure buildout in the future. >> my largest congressional district is 33,000 people. when do you think google

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remove that flag from the pole at some point if it causes a twinge in the heart of lonnie hosy or bill clyburn my friends. but at some point, i'll ask for something in return. because i believe in fairness. i believe in balancing of scales. lonnie hosy, if that flag hurts your heart it hurts my heart. and that is a point i have reached. and as i see it, i grew upholding that flag in reverence because of the story of my ancestors carrying that flag into battle and serving under it. miss cobb hunter i made a statement to my wife if i never had to hurt another person in my life it would make me happy. my life has not always been easy. as a soldier as a police officer, everything does not come easy to you. and i didn't grow up easy. i grew up hard on a farm in a school of hard knochks. some others around here have too. so life hasn't been all that rosie. but you know what god blessed me. he blessed me by putting me amongst these folks and putting me in this state, in this country, the greatest nation on all of the earth in spite of all of its faults. it is a place where you and i can disagree and

commissioner clyburn -- >> let me get to governor lewis on the federal properties. they have to get past the land issue. can't we force a zoning issue, get you guys the zoning ability like we do municipalities? >> yes. there's a bill introduced in the other body created by senator rubyio that would create a fee schedule that the agency could keep the money they get from that to pay for the cost of processing it. there would be common forms that to try to get them enacted. there's an expectancy of lease renewals so when somebody nfbs there -- >> okay. let me get governor lewis to respond. >> federal land on indian country has been a long issue in regards to our unique situation as indian tribes the and the nature of indian land in regards to highly fractionated land interests that are so critical and sometimes are one of the major obstacles to buildouts in regards to getting right of ways. if we can somehow streamline that process through the bureau of indian affairs, the department of interior, that would greatly help out tribal infrastructure buildout in the future

. >> your fellow commissioner, minion clyburn, has argued very strongly for getting carriers out of the business of vetting individuals who benefit from the lifeline program and current status. basically, it's the carriers who sign up the individuals and obviously, they have a financial interest in seeing as many people getting the subsidy as possible. do you think that's a major driver of fraud waste and abuse in the program, or do you see it more as individual consumers who are driving -- >> guest: i think it's both. it's not necessarily it's not carrier wide. there are certainly some carriers that are more prone to this, there's certain smaller carriers that have built business models along these lines, and there are definitely individuals that are taking advantage of the program. i know my colleague is interested in moving to some kind of mechanism that maybe some of the states or maybe in partnership with s.n.a.p. or other programs, and i'm hope to having that die -- dialogue. we put out a lot of questions in our nprm, and hopefully, we'll see if that comes back. i don't know it's

clyburn of south carolina for today. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the request is granted. under the speaker's announced policy of january 6, 2015 the gentlewoman from illinois ms. kelly, is recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the minority leader. ms. kelly: thank you, mr. speaker. i ask that all members be given five days to revise and extend their remarks. i also scr -- i also have a written statement from congresswoman johnson to enter into the record. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. kelly: thank you. mr. speaker, we're here tonight to have an important conversation, a conversation that is long overdue, a conversation that is crucial to healing america's deep racial wounds. our topic being the confederate battle flag and why racial symbols matter. the charleston nine killings focused many of our attention on the significance, appropriateness and bigoted history of this flag. in 2015 why do so many still revere a flag that tolerated the shackling of people because of their skin? a

tragedy that occurred in mother emanuel baptist church, our respect for our assistant leader, jim clyburn and respect for the families that have buried their dead over the last week. many of us joined the president in south carolina for the funeral of reverend pinckney. i ask this body reflecting on two amendments that were offered last night regarding the confederate flag that were voted on by voice vote in the interior bill, but i ask today the leadership to allow this house to look at three initiatives, legislative initiatives offered by members. based upon the walker case, sons of the confederate, i want my colleagues to know that justice thomas ruled that government speech did not warrant the utilization of the rebel flag. in the words of senator pinckney. this is warranted. he says my liberty depends on you being free too. history must be a manual of how to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past. how to break the cycle. he knew that the path of grace involved an open mind but more importantly an open heart. we need to debate on the floor of the house the symbols of hate in this na

clyburn. let me say this. some of you don't know it, but there are five members in this body who came in together. mr. clyburn, mr. mr. whipper, mr. howard and mr. limehouse where is chip? you got too big a head i couldn't see it. but i think it's interesting -- you know i think it's interesting though out of a class of 22 we still have five members who serve in this body. and we were here during the time that we debated this somewhat issue in the '99-2000 time period. so we have been here. and the emotion in this chamber is very much like it was at that time. it is a very emotional issue. thank you for listening to me. i appreciate it. i appreciate what you guys do all of you. >> thank you. pending question is the adoption of amendment 30. representative brown you wish to be heard? representative brown is recognized. >> thank you, mr. speaker. what i'm going to say i was going to say later this afternoon. but brian white stood up here and so eloquently talked about heritage. i have had so many phone calls and

clyburn is recognized at the well, please. >> thank you mr. speaker. fellow colleagues, i am not going to keep you very long. i just want to mention a couple of things to you. you know, this morning, when we started, things went so well and, of course we know that the world was watching and things went quite well. i don't know what happened this afternoon, but right now, i just think that all of us -- i know we are going through some tough times, but i think all of us just need to calm down just a little bit more and let's try to understand what's going on right now and what we need to do to move forward and come up with some resolution. the amendment that we have here was put up by representative quin been and i think most of you know representative quin as i do. i think all of us respect him a great deal. we know that he's really truly someone who believes in what he's doing and who representatives his constituents well. there's no question about that. and we have been friends a long time. he is a republican and of course, everyone knows that i am a