clyburn: distinguished family, my colleagues, ladies and gentlemen.the sixth chapter and eighth verse of the old testament book, the prophet micah admonishes us that the lord requires us to do justly, act mercifully, and walk humbly. elijah e cummings personified this directive in his service and in the core of his living. elijah had a passion for justice. justice for those who are underserved. justice for those who are undercut. and justice for those who are underestimated. he himself had been grossly underestimated at a very early point in his development and as a result, had been placed in special education. but was rescued by a teacher who saw that the only thing special about elijah cummings was his inquisitiveness. he and i often talked about the passion we shared about being called to rescue as many others as god gave us courage and strength to do. elijah understood micah's admonition that sometimes justice, even when dispensed equally, might not always be the proper course of action. and in such instances we are called upon to be merciful. eli

i'm going to talk to a top member of the democratic leadership, congressman jim clyburn. he'll join me ahead. >>> fanning the flames in california. firefighters here bracing for more dangerous winds as two major wildfires continue to burn in the northern and southern part of the state. we'll go live to california in just a minute. we start with the breaking news. key figure in the trump ukraine impeachment probe testifying right now on capitol hill. again, this is behind closed doors. and as politico's playbook newsletter puts it, democrats hope the lieutenant colonel alexander vindman is their breakout witness. he's a decorated u.s. army veteran, high ranking white house official. this is a guy who was on the phone call between president trump and the president of the ukraine. again, so alarmed by it, he reports it twice. this comes as we learn that house democrats are ready to take the inquiry to the next level. they're expected to vote thursday on this plan to lay out the investigation's next steps. we have a lot to get to this hour. let's go right to the heart of the

impeachment inquiry moves forward and the 2020 fight heats up, i'll talk about it with congressman jim clyburn who will join me in a few minutes. also joined by one of the president's primary challengers, mark sanford as well. a little layer, the mayor of minneapolis, minnesota, will join me with a simple message for the president, pay your bills. we start this hour with breaking news i just mentioned that cows cause a dramatic escalation for the impeachment probe into president trump. a senior law enforcement official confirms to nbc news that two foreign-born donors to a pac that supports president trump have been arrested for campaign finance violations. they were arrested last night at dulles international airport down in washington, d.c. they were slated to get on a flight out of the country. the president's personal attorney, rudy giuliani, has previously stated that he has worked with the two men on efforts to get ukraine to investigate former vice president joe biden. let's get right to our reporting on this. white house correspondent peter alexander and nbc news correspondent tom wint

and when i saw congressman clyburn i walked over to him because i was in south carolina when his wife had to be rushed to the empty. i went to his office and we talked. >> did mitch mcconnell, did he not help you in something because he hasn't commented in the role? >> i'm not going to say he did it, somebody did not. i don't know who congressman cummings reached out to, but they never did it. and when i walked across -- when i walked across, i looked at congressman clyburn and he put his arm around me, and he said bobby, it's going to be all right. and as i raised my head up i looked down at nancy pelosi, and the reason i looked at her is because one of my best friends was her security man. and he had a massive stroke four or five years ago. and i walked straight to her because i was asking her about dorman. >> so you weren't trying to snub mcconnell? >> no, sir. no, sir. i wasn't even paying him any attention because if you see the video after i finish talking to the speaker, i backed up and i was looking for congresswoman bady. she put her thumb at me like this, i put my thumb up a

joining us now is democratic congressman james clyburn. the house majority whip. thank you for being with us. this is the first time we've had a chance to talk to you since the passing of your wife, known and loved by so many as dr. m. i want to pass on our heartfelt feelings of sympathy to you and your family. >> thank you very much for that. thank you for having me this morning. >> bill taylor, the senior u.s. diplomat in ukraine, the former ambassador to ukraine, he testifies today behind closed doors. he is the one who wrote in a text message, are we now saying that security assistance and white house meeting are conditioned on investigations? where does he fit in to the congressional impeachment investigation in your mind? >> i think he's a very, very important piece of all of this. i think that we can go back and forth with our opinions about what may or may not have happened, but when we get this kind of a document and we hear these kinds of expressions, we know that within this administration, there were people raising red flags. there were people offering

and i looked up, and i saw congressman cummings -- congressman clyburn.yburn, i walked over to him because i was in south carolina when his wife had to be rushed to the hospital. i went to his office, and he and i sat in there and talked, and she later died. >> let me ask you something. sorry because of the time. i've got to run soon. did mitch mcconnell, did he not help you with something because he hasn't commented on any role in denying veterans' benefits. >> i'm not going to say he did it. somebody did not. i don't know who congressman cummings reached out to. but they never did it, and when i walked across -- when i walked across, i looked at congressman clyburn, and he put his arm around me, and he said, bobby, it's going to be all right. and as i raised my head up, i looked down at nancy pelosi. and the reason i looked at her is because one of my best friends was her security man, and he had a massive stroke four or five years ago, and i walked straight to her because i was asking her about dorman. >> so you weren't trying to snub mcconnell? >> no,

clyburn from south carolina. mr. clyburn: thank you very much. i thank you so much for yielding the time. i thank the chairlady of our caucus for giving us somewhat of a resume of the life of elijah cummings. most people know that elijah cummings' roots were deep in south carolina's soil. i happen to represent the county in which he was born. or which his parents were born. ey came north to baltimore seeking a better life for their children. they were sharecroppers. in the county that gave birth to brown vs. the board of education of topeka, kansas. the interesting thing about the ople of that community, that formed that movement, that spurred a national, and i dare say an international movement, was the simplicity of their lives, their aspirations. the brown case was not about integrating schools. it was about getting a school bus for their children. the people who came together .ere people of modest means mr. briggs, harry briggs, was an ordinary man working at a filling station making $23 a week. $18 a week making motel. ir lady in a that is t

white house conversation that is going nature, thatisan in speaker pelosi, steny hoyer, i elieve jim clyburn as well as chairman engel and chairman smith, i think, are participating in. american people across the deological spectrum have clearly indicated that the ctions that the president has taken in abandoning our ally and position of four are rent entities that russia, -- iran, assad, and isis -- is reckless and rresponsible and we are going to do everything we can pursuant to the authority that we have as branch te and co-equal of government to turn the situation around. clark: i'd just like to add the resolution also has another purpose besides directly trying influence the actions of urkey, and that is to say to our allies around the globe that the united states congress our president t has done. nd that he has betrayed the kurds. and that sends a very dangerous world, as ound the congressman crow said, that you can't trust us. and we are hoping with this resolution, not only to be able but to give sure, that signal to world leaders congress nited states understands the dangerousness

clyburn. >>> one big remaining question, will john bolton testify?lls cnn, house investigators invited the former national security adviser to appear next week. but bolton's lawyer says he won't appear unless he is subpoenaed. other witnesses say bolton raised concerns about shadow diplomacy with ukraine by the president and by his personal attorney, rudy giuliani. >>> also today, two hearings that will determine whether the white house can defy subpoenas. bolton's former aide, charles kupperman, has asked a judge to decide if he should testify over white house objections. a different judge will hear arguments whether don mcgahn is immune from testifying. >> a lot more ahead on this. >>> plus, new incriminating documents as boeing's ceo faces family members devastated over two 737 max crashes. they give us excellent customer otservice, every time.e. our 18 year old was in an accident. usaa took care of her car rental, and getting her car towed. all i had to take care of was making sure that my daughter was ok. if i met another veteran, and they were

warehouse conversation that will be bipartisan in nature that speaker pelosi, steny hoyer hoyer and jim clyburn as well as chairman ingle and chairman smith are participating in the american people across the ideological spectrum have clearly indicated that the actions that the president has taken in abandoning our ally in bolstering the position of four different entities that our enemies iran, a sod, russia and isis is reckless and irresponsible. it will will do everything we can pursuant to the legal branch of government to turn the situation around. >> like to add the resolution also has another purpose besides directly trying to influence the actions of turkey and that is to pay to our allies around the globe that the united states congress understands what our president has done and that he has betrayed the kurds and that sends a very dangerous message around the world as punishment crow said that you can't trust us and we are hoping with this resolution not only to be able to apply pressure but to get that signal to world leaders that the united states congress understands the dangerous

congressman jim clyburn. we are sorry for the loss of your friend. the country is sorry for the loss and we thank you for taking time to talk to us about so many issues happening today on capitol hill and around the world. thank you, congressman. >> thank you so much for having me. >> and of course, one of those issues remains the situation with the temporary five-day cease fire. lasting 120 hours to allow those kurdish led militias to withdrawal from the northern border region. i want to talk about the situation on the ground in northern syria. that's where nbc's news chief foreign correspondent richard engel is standing by. colonel jack jacobs is still here as well. richard, we've been saying this. donald trump says the kurds are very happy with this deal. what can you tell us from on the ground? >> they are not very happy with this deal. they want to save their lives. so, yes, stopping the artillery, stopping the air assaults, of course that is welcome. but the idea that any kurds are happy that now a piece of syria, a piece where the kurds have c

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my leader, whip clyburn said this early on in the process, we have to gather intel and make the casee american people. if you're not doing politics seven days a week, 24 hours a day, this does not really impact your everyday quality of life and most americans are focused on trying to do basic things in life because they have not been able to get out of a rut thanks to this current president. with that being said, democrats are doing a magnificent job of making the case and showing the corruption that continues to overflow from this administration, with the understanding if they even pass articles of impeachment, that the senate, who refuses to pass gun legislation and other things, are just going to do a normal to-do and do nothing. >> jonathan turning to you now and listen to the president talking about impeachment this week. >> i see this guy congressman al green saying we have to impeach him, otherwise he's going to win the election. and that's exactly what they're saying. we have to impeach him, because otherwise i'm going to win the election. i think they want to impeach me beca

clyburn. pennsylvania,n republican. caller: good morning. host: good morning. intor: my daughter swears the united phase -- united states air force today and i'm so proud. daughter we are proud of her commitment to the country and that is an amazing feeling he must be having. caller: thank you, it truly is. you are so educated and you are so polite and i am a conservative, that means i respect god, the united states and life. ,dam schiff did not do a parody he was lying and he got caught lying so he changed his tactics. my bottom line is, everyone i know, we are no longer falling for the democrat tricks are lies, and whether you think you are doing this honestly out of what is the right thing to do, most people i know see it as the democrats will do nothing -- i mean, will stop at nothing, the ends justify the means. the american people elected donald and they will again in a landslide because we now see through the democrats' dirty tactics. guest: you are attempting to demonize one person, that being adam schiff, and this was a decision made by multiple indivi

the floor is being managed by the speaker and mister hoyer and mister clyburn and they will make decisions what votes should come forward. >> host: debbie in pennsylvania, republican. >> caller: my daughter swears into the united states air force today and i'm so proud i wanted to share. >> guest: tell your daughter we are so grateful for her service to this country and that is an amazing feeling you must be having today. >> caller: it truly is. you seem like you are so educated and so polite. i am a conservative and that means i respect god, i respect the united states, respect life. adam schiff didn't do a parody. he was lying and he got caught lying so he changed his tactics. my bottom line is everybody i know are no longer falling for the democrats tricks and lies and whether you think you are doing this honestly out of what is the right thing to do, most people i know, democrats will do nothing, stop at nothing, the ends justify the means. the american people elected donald trump and they will again in a landslide because we now see through the democrats dirty tactics. >> guest: we ar

clyburn: thank you, madam speaker. mr. clyburn: over the last month, the impeachment inquiry has built a powerful body of evidence around president trump's call with prime minister zelensky of ukraine when he told the leader, i'd like you to do us a favor though. we learned so much about that call and what followed it because some dedicated public servants demonstrated their patriotism to this great country by coming forward and testifying and giving us the information as hey know it. these brave patriots have been radical, eer, unelected bureaucrats. they've been called that by a group of people who thomas payne would call summer soldiers and sunshine patriots. he warned us that these people ould come forward in a crisis, but deserve the thanks of man and woman, yet we have this conflict with us, the hard they are conflict the more glrs you the triumph. we are here today because brave, dedicated public servants and patriots are standing up for their country. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole:

rangle and there was of course barbara jordan and even now that he's passed on we have still there jim clyburn the number one for number 3 man leader in the house of representatives and behind them we have al green and we have you know we are omar some of the new 19 ques indeed they are very they have buddies they are definitely has been they all that so what are the issues than that you think that. those that are around are taking up the mantle of civil rights for ethnic minorities what are the big issues that continue to to hold the united states still lead to be you might say fought for in the corridors of power in government in the us i think. fair voting is still an important issue with the lingering effects of segregation taken against african-american and that next as we repair for the 2020 vote i think health and health care is still. as the bomber affordable care act goes before the supreme court term i think education is still critical in terms of the cost of education access to education continuing segregation in education i think fair housing and affordable housing is still a chall

can tell you, trish, is over the break many of my democrat colleagues received phone calls from jim clyburn, the whip of the democratic caucus. there was not sufficient support to move forward with an impeachment vote. that's deeply troubling because this impeachment is damage our country and damage our president's hand as he tries to settle global peace and make the world a safer place. jet democrats aren't willing to put their own name to their own flawed impeachment investigation. trish: when i heard this knew, it was quite possible that she was going to say, look we have the votes and we'll have the vote on impeachment. i thought hallelujah. it feels like that's a more democrat kick and fair process. the president already said, and we can show the viewer here. it's a fair process. if they took a vote he would be willing to turn over whatever he needs to turn over. >> to say you can't have lawyers ask questions. even some of e reporters say it's an unfair situation. >> if pelosi holds a vote on the floor, you will participate in that investigation? president trump: if the rules are fair.

. >> bret: here's congressman clyburn and speaker pelosi tod today. >> the heart of the conflict, theore glorious the trial. we are here today because brave, dedicated, public servants and patriots are standing up for their country. >> nobody, i doubt anybody in this place or anybody that you know comes to congress to take the oath of office, comes to congress to impeach the president of the united states. unless his actions are jeopardizing our honoring our oath of office. >> bret: i understand congressman your arguments about process under arguments about fairness. they on the floor numerous times talked about the substance of concerns of men like the colonel, other people who have testified about this call and what they saw behind the scenes. on the substance question, do you have concerns at all? >> no, not at this point. she said they didn't come to congress to impeach. did we don't have a huge controversy the day of swearing in from a congresswoman from michigan who said that we are here to impeach him? i mean come on. you know better than this. you're pandering to the american

clyburn told me at this point he's sort of looking at between thanksgiving and christmas for a full house impeachment. how does that timing sound to you? is that too long to wait? >> i don't have a timetable in mind. you know, as a former federal prosecutor, i never said we were going to have a trial on this date and we're going to, you know, have the jury decision by certain evidence, you want to call on other people to make sure you have like i said the fullest picture possible. so i think what's critically important is that we get to the bottom of what happened. that we, again, provide to the american people and to congress as much evidence as possible and to shape the fullest picture possible of what took place. >> if you had to vote today yes or no on impeachment, how would you vote? >> it would depend what the articles are. certainly articles that i think would be something that the president could be accused of. >> you would vote yes if it said abuse of power or pressuring a foreign leader to investigate a political opponent? >> again, it depends on the articles, john. >> all right

clyburn from south carolina. mr. clyburn: thank you very much. i thank you so much for yielding the time. i thank the chairlady of our caucus for giving us somewhat of a resume of the life of elijah cummings. most people know that elijah cummings' roots were deep in south carolina's soil. i happen to represent the county in which he was born. or which his parents were born. ey came north to baltimore seeking a better life for their children. they were sharecroppers. in the county that gave birth to brown vs. the board of education of topeka, kansas. the interesting thing about the ople of that community, that formed that movement, that spurred a national, and i dare say an international movement, was the simplicity of their lives, their aspirations. the brown case was not about integrating schools. it was about getting a school bus for their children. the people who came together .ere people of modest means mr. briggs, harry briggs, was an ordinary man working at a filling station making $23 a week. $18 a week making motel. ir lady in a that is t

james clyburn, that sort of thing. hillary clinton needed it.l need it. >> jessica: she had it. >> lisa: will leave it there, you're out of time. attorney general william barr warns that more values is behind many of society's problems, and secularism is to blame. reaction from both sides ahead. stay with us. was a good musical the newday va streamline refi is the reason why. it lets you shortcut the loan process and refinance with no income verification, no appraisal, and no out of pocket costs. one call can save you $2000 every year. call my team at newday usa right now. px]xri g wthat's why xfinity hasu made taking your internetself. and tv with you a breeze. really? yup. you can transfer your service online in about a minute. you can do that? yeah. and with two-hour service appointment windows, it's all on your schedule. awesome. so while moving may still come with its share of headaches... no kidding. we're doing all we can to make moving simple, easy, awesome. go to xfinity.com/moving to get started. your business can do a lot in 10 minute

look, pelosi, clyburn have done a magnificent job of being methodical in how we deal with this.is administration, but also taking their time to make sure we bring in people and gather information and contain to make the case while all the steps seem to line up. i don't think we can get into this back-and-forth battle about donald trump on what democrats are doing or not doing about impeachment. but staying laser focus and providing oversight and checks and balances to the executive branch. if we continue to do that, the american people will see clearly like we saw yesterday with the former ambassador to the ukraine testifying before congress about how corrupt this president and this administration is. >> real quick, i want to ask you about these new comments coming from president trump's former white house chief strategist steve bannon, let's listen. >> joe biden is totally compromised, his family is compromised. elizabeth warren is going to have a centrist challenger. that will either be michael bloomberg, i think i said on your show, hillary clinton. that's going to be a real

. >> as a junior supporter of james clyburn in the house, our web and that has come , ours as a nation would. he said she's not sure if she can get the vote and subdivided. that means she probably wouldn't. last quick fight? >> chris: jessica is 100% right, and you are also right about what bernie could do. he could have a chip he could keep to the convention. if you get into a brokered convention and bernie sanders has got some delegates, he could end up getting some of his things on the platform. his ideas. also, by the way, he thinks he's running for president. [laughter] >> harris: your reaction from president trump as house committee chairman adam schiff faces scrutiny from his own political party overhangs or marks marks about the whistle-blower. could he have been more clear? hmm. >> we have not spoken directly with the whistle-blower. we would like to. but i'm sure the whistle-blower has concerns. ♪ 300 miles an hour, that's where i feel normal. having an annuity tells me my retirement is protected. learn more at retire your risk dot org. but you don't feel good. with polycythe

but this comes as her chip james clyburn behind the scenes has been taking the temperature of the members of the house democratic caucus to see if their support for this vote would be a very significant development in the house democrats' impeachment inquiry, wolf. >> certainly will be very significant indeed. we'll see what she announces. we'll have coverage of that. that is coming up. sunlen, thank you very much. >>> let's get more now on the latest closed-door testimony in the impeachment inquiry, alex marquardt is working the story for us. alex, lawmakers are learning more about what is being described as rogue shadow diplomacy in ukraine by rudy giuliani and the concern it raised inside of the trump administration. >> reporter: that is right, wolf. this impeachment inquiry has shifted into a much higher gear with this testimony to those various congressional committees and that of fiona hill, the former top white house adviser on russia. her stunning comments, not only made clear that there were these duelling ukraine policies if you will, but so disturbed by it that her bosz the for

. >> reporter: now i'm told that majority whip jim clyburn, the democr democrat, has been behind the scenes gaging the te-- gaging t temperature of whether or not to hold a vote and that is discussed behind closed doors and some pushing this believe it could blunt key republican argument and blunt what the white house is saying, this is an invalid inquiry and strengthen claims of obstruction of congress and others are concerned about the risk of putting such a sensitive vote on the floor at this key time believing it could be a distraction. we'll see what the speaker has to say on this very significant topic in just a matter of moments, wolf. >> that could be significant if she makes that dramatic announcement. we'll stand by and have coverage, of course. manu, thanks very much. >>> our sara murray is tracking all of the new impeachment developments as well. sara, concern in the white house is growing well before that phone call with the president of ukraine. >> reporter: that is right. the phone call has gotten a lot of attention and it set off this impeachment inquiry. but now we'r

house majority whip james clyburn says the inquiry could be wrapped up between thanksgiving and christmasis that realistic? >> i don't think any of us really know yet what the timeline is. i think we're moving as expeditiously as we can. we've had three weeks on the job and have had some outstanding interviews with witnesses i'm sure will be called back at public hearings. you know, i'm reminded that during the benghazi committee, there were 107 private closed-door interviews that took place. and they didn't have their first public hearing until four months in. so if you're comparing what we're doing with the party inquiry versus the benghazi committee work which was held and controlled by the republicans, we're on a fast track. >> obviously as you said, one of the criticisms from republicans that the inquiry's conducted behind closed doors even though the republicans who were able to ask questions just like democrats, chairman schiff has said there will be public hearings. what has to happen before those begin? is there some threshold that has to be met? more people are supposed to be in

jim clyburn, we have lost a giant. steny hoyer, he led the charge to make our democracy better. even a statement attributed to president trump saying that cummings' voice and work was impossible, very hard to replace. mark meadows, a man good friend of his, the two of them having almost nothing in common, ideologically, but good friends nonetheless, mark meadows saying there was no stronger advocate and no better friend. adam schiff, the heart and soul of our caucus. elijah cummings was known for his soaring oratory, the son of southern preachers, listening to him like you were listening to a sermon. we have some of his old comments actually. you can listen to for yourself to get a flavor of what he was like. take a look. >> when we're dancing with the angels, the question will be asked, in 2019, what did we do to make sure we kept our democracy intact. of all the people on this committee, i've said it and got in trouble for it, that you're one of my best friends. that shocks a lot of people. >> and likewise, mr. chairman. >> yeah. >> lastly some reaction from his wife who says

every leader, adam schiff, jerry nadler, nancy pelosi, jim clyburn, all of -- >> i hate to use your owngument on you. the constitution doesn't say it and there is no law or procedure that says they have to do what you want. >> no -- >> they don't have to do it just like the president saying i don't have to turn over my taxes. >> chris, chris. >> and he's saying i don't have to comply with congressional investigations which might get him impeached, by the way. >> the democrats were given the majority by the people. they can handle themselves in office any way they want. my only point is, is that if it looks like they're being too partisan and they're not allowing ambassadors to be deposed with lawyers and such, to me that's almost un-american -- >> having counsel is a good issue -- let's take it one by one. having counsel is a good issue. the idea of due process during an investigation, no defendant gets to have a hand in their own investigation. you do have republicans -- >> that's not what we're asking. we're not asking for the defendant to be able to set up what the process is. but th

house majority whip jim clyburn: >> well, i think the president classifying a constitutional remedy to an unlawful, egregious act such as lynching is beneath the dignity of the office of the president of the united states. >> alcindor: tim scott, the only black republican in the senate, also spoke out. >> there is no question that the impeachment process is the clost thinof a political death row trial, so i get his absolute rejection of the process. i wouldn't use the word "lynching." >> alcindor: g.o.p. leaders like house minority leader kevin mccarthy and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell distanced themselves from the president's language. >> given the history in our country, i would not compare this to a lynching. >> alcindor: but south carolina senator lindsey graham, a close ally of president trump, defended him.>> this is a lynchy sense. this is un-american. >> alcindor: and, white house deputy press secretary hogan gidley said this: >> he's not comparing himself to those dark times. whether you're white, black, brown, red-- it doesn't matter. his polici have lifted all thes

i agree with what jim clyburn said yesterday in terms of, let's go methodically through this process.stem where one is innocent until proven guilty, but where there's smoke, generally there's fire. and you see more and more smoke coming out of this story with, again, the things you're suggesting most recently. what i've also said, though is, one, let's be deliberate about the process. i think the house ought to take a vote first. that happens to be my opinion. that's what's happening the previous three impeachment processes. but impeachment ultimately is a political process, not a legal one. and my simple point in saying what i said with regard to censure was, if you -- what you don't want is for the president to walk out of this process exonerated as if it's all fine. and for him to say, oop, the senate didn't impeach me, i'm completely innocent because no matter where we go with this, it seems to me that you cannot set precedent going forward that this kind of behavior is acceptable and okay from a president. end of story. and so my point is there's clarity. the house can come out w

house majority whip jim clyburn. >> to have the president classify a constitutional remedy to an unlawfulregious -- as lynching is beneath the dignity of the office of president of the united states. >> tim scott also spoke out. >>tt there is no question that e impeachment process is the closest thing of a political file. i get his absolute ejection of the process. i would not use the word lynching. >> gop leaders distance themselves from the president's language. >> given the history and our country, i would not compare this to a lynching. >> but lindsey graham, a close ally of president trump, defended him. >> this is a lynching in every sense. >> hogan gidley said this. >> he is not comparing himself to those dark times. whether you are white, black, brown, red, it does not matter. his policy have lifted all the boats in this country. >> reports suggest the russian president and hungary's far-right leader negatively influenced president trump's feud with ukraine. both countries view ukraine as hostile to their own inrests. judy: even as this story continues to develop. it is clear that

clyburn's comments about tsa personnel. they still have a lot of folks working. if i were to extrapolate from my discussion some of your, work you do have a lot of turnover. if you have a part-time job, they are part time, that is the crux of the issue this is a budgetary challenge that we have? >> as part of the 2020 issue, we are decreasing the number of part-time individuals authorized. we have individuals that have retired from other jobs and don't actually want to work a full schedule. it worked very well for them, especially in those locations, depending on the ground a workforce -- >> we see those part time jobs would prefer to be part time work full-time? >> those part timers i highlighted would prefer to be day-ing in part-time. there were others they would like to and would prefer. full-time >> i imagine is a lot of people that are not retire that would want some stability from a full-time job. my next question is, in terms of budget, we have that tax we face on tickets. that is supposed to go to airport security. >> yes. >> a go to the airport security

james clyburn will know exactly where every single member is on that vote. open and transparent? there was nothing previously that inhibited any of those committees are making is open and transparent. these are not classified briefings. they could have made this come up they let adam schiff in the basement and close the doors. in the addenda have years i served in congress come if i want to see an unclassified brief were testimony, if i wanted to go see it, i could go see it. it's only adam schiff and the way he's conducted this that has made it such a close-door process. >> melissa: what about the response to hearst's question, that this is how it was done under nixon and clinton? >> jason: i don't buy it. first of all, if they have the goods on donald trump, they would move forward with that. they are on a fixings petition. they are hoping something bites on it. >> harris: along those lines, because you mentioned the gap of time between now and the end of the where and how few working days congress will have, we saw the same thing at the end of the summer. there was this big pu

and jim clyburn and i have talked and i don't know whether we're going to get every democrat. >> whatyou say to the holdouts? what's the case to somebody that says this, congressman, and i know a few house members are making this case quietly. which is, look, i got a lot of concern about this. my constituents have a lot of concern about this but my constituents are also well aware that 2020 is around the corner. what's your case to them? >> we're going to proceed and do our constitutional duty. whatever -- wherever the chips may fall. that is our responsibility. that's our oath of office. to defend and protect the constitution of the united states of america. we're going to do that. but what i would say to those members is, look, we are going to proceed. that's our duty to proceed. but we're also going to allow the president of the united states to have witnesses and try to make his case. we think that's fair. so that i don't think there's a reason for a member, for instance, not to be able to go back to the district and say, look, on process, the republicans have been talking about f

clyburn: thank you, madam speaker. mr. clyburn: over the last month, the impeachment inquiry has built a powerful body of evidence around president trump's call with prime minister zelensky of ukraine when he told the leader, i'd like you to do us a favor though. we learned so much about that call and what followed it because some dedicated public servants demonstrated their patriotism to this great country by coming forward and testifying and giving us the information as hey know it. these brave patriots have been radical, eer, unelected bureaucrats. they've been called that by a group of people who thomas payne would call summer soldiers and sunshine patriots. he warned us that these people ould come forward in a crisis, but deserve the thanks of man and woman, yet we have this conflict with us, the hard they are conflict the more glrs you the triumph. we are here today because brave, dedicated public servants and patriots are standing up for their country. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole:

i spoke with jim clyburn, the democratic whip. do you think you have more than 230?said there are too many absences for that. that number may be a little lower. again, the algebra on capitol hill is always in motion. there are currently 432 members of the house. so if they all vote you would need 217 to pass. it is hard to get 432 people in the same room at the same time. that's the absence issue that clyburn is alluding to. there is no question it will pass. that's something that steny hoyer the mouse majority leader told me a few minutes ago as well. this morning we have had one freshman democrat who is vulnerable come on board who said she is going to vote for this. kendra horn, a freshman democrat from oklahoma. she said this is not a decision i made lightly. this is not a vote for impeachment. it is a vote to create clear rules for public hearings. that's a vulnerable district. that district went for president trump by 13 points. republicans are going to try to weaponize this roll call vote against those vulnerable democrats. i would look at two hold-outs now wh

house majority whip james clyburn said this morning, today we have lost a giant.. during his career in congress, cummings has sponsored or cosponsored more than 5200 pieces of legislation. he will be remembered by his wife and three children. >> boy, all right, nancy, thank you. civil rights attorney ben crump with us now, knew cummings for a decade and considers him a mentor and a role model. good to see you, ben crump today. >> good to see you. >> under these circumstances i'm sorry to say. what can you tell us about him? you know we heard nancy say that the grief on capitol hill was bipartisan. >> yes, ma'am. >> what can you tell us about him? >> gayle, elijah cummings was a prince of a man. he was a giant in government, but more importantly, he was a pillar to our community. i remember with when trayvon martin was killed, he was co-chairing the congressional black caucus panel on black men and boys and how they are disproportionately affected and by profiling and in employment and he at that hearing made the preamble to the declaration of independence real. we

clyburn. pennsylvania,n republican. caller: good morning. host: good morning.my daughter swears the united phase -- united states air force today and i'm so proud. daughter we are proud of her commitment to the country and that is an amazing feeling he must be having. caller: thank you, it truly is. you are so educated and you are so polite and i am a conservative, that means i respect god, the united states and life. ,dam schiff did not do a parody he was lying and he got caught lying so he changed his tactics. my bottom line is, everyone i know, we are no longer falling for the democrat tricks are lies, and whether you think you are doing this honestly out of what is the right thing to do, most people i know see it as the democrats will do nothing -- i mean, will stop at nothing, the ends justify the means. the american people elected donald and they will again in a landslide because we now see through the democrats' dirty tactics. guest: you are attempting to demonize one person, that being adam schiff, and this was a decision made by multiple individuals an

. >> we had congressman clyburn on the show yesterday.pired to live a sermon with their lives, and i think we can fairly say they've both done that. >>> we turn now to the 2020 presidential race. a new poll out of iowa has senator elizabeth warren in first place at 28%. she is up four points. look at second place, mayor pete buttigieg, is at 20%, a seven-point jump since last month. senator bernie sanders stands at 18%. former vice president joe biden falling four points in this poll to 12%, sliding from second place to fourth. joining us now editor-in-chief of "the economist," zannybeddow is, looking at elizabeth warren's plan to remake capitalism. good to see you. i think john will want to jump in on this conversation. but what do you layout for elizabeth warren and the vision she has for the country, because now as one of the front-runners she is getting scrutiny about how she is going to pay for the plans she is proposing. >> that's exactly right. now she is one of the democratic front-runners, she has a breathtakingly ambitious set o