jim clyburn is the assistant democratic several. know who? jim clyburn is. can i can i skip this? i'm going to skip that part. what i will say is that congressman clyburn has been a devoted, committed friend to the truman. and we are very grateful for everything that you've done for us. he has the honorary co-chair of the truman civil symposium. he served on our honorary national committee for, the seventh anniversary. and in 2017, congressman clyburn came with the late, great lewis to receive the truman legacy leadership award, which was a really wonderful experience for us in kansas city. thank you again for everything you do for us. dr. carla hayden, who i had the pleasure of finally meeting in person and not across the zoom lens, which is a nice experience as a new friend of the truman library, i you might become chairman soon. we look forward to that. dr. hayden is nominated the 14th librarian of congress by obama and confirmed in two 2016. she's a really lovely biography. was really amazed to learn i guess not surprised but amazed that she's the first woman to serve this pos

james clyburn next. well new, tonight republican congressman matt gaetz filing a motion to remove kevin mccarthy as speaker of the house. now mccarthy is the first speaker in more than 100 years to face this kind of challenge, this comes on the back of mccarthy managing to reach a deal, and a 45 stopgap bill to head off a government shutdown with of course the help of a democrat. now sources tell cnn, mccarthy will need to rely on democratic votes in order to keep that gavel. here's congressman gaetz earlier tonight. >> he doesn't have my support anymore, and he doesn't have the support of a requisite number of republicans to continue as the republican speaker. now he may continue as the house speaker, he may continue as a speaker of the democrats, and some sort of yunnan party coalition, but he is not going to be a speaker in power as a consequence of republican votes. >> well if you thought things and it there, mccarthy posted to platform acts, bring on. gates replied, just did. joining me now to discu

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congressman clyburn is o the most powdemocrats in congress. what the senator explained is joeen wouldn't be president if it weren't for congressman clyburn. of course he wants congressman clyburn representing the interests of his home county of char but he witnessed to keep a republican there too i case there's a change in leadership in washington. senator's own draft map kept the split in charleston county. he wanted to keep a portion of charleston county in his district as well. >> what was the black voting populationn district one in that map? >> it was only5.48%, lower than where it ended up under the enacted plan. by more than a point. >> i have a question about dr. ragusa's expert report. the circumstantial ee is what the plaintiffs relied on and the whole i of disentangling race and partisanship. i understood your brief to say, but you haven't said this yet, want to make sure i not take into account fache did like contiguousness and compactness so he was ag that you could haveentially an island cut off in the middle of the district that

congressman, jim clyburn, good luck to you, sir.hank you for your time tonight. >> thank you very much. we're going to need it. >> we sure will. >>> coming up, if you thought house republicans were were crazy, recall donald trump's former lawyer and she agreed to testify against all her defendants, donald trump, what it could mean for the 45th president, that's next. i'm sholeh, and i lost 75 pounds with golo. i went from a size 20 to a size 6. before golo, nothing seemed to work. i was exercising for over an hour every day. it was really discouraging. but golo's so easy, the weight just falls off. goli, taste your goals. >>> the phone was on speaker but we were muted so she couldn't hear us. and, you know, he said like this does sound crazy, doesn't it. and i think i said, yes, yes, it does. >> that was former white house aide hope hicks testifying to the house january 6th committee recalling when president trump concluded that a certain woman's claims about the 2020 election sounded crazy. tucker carlson before he got fired from f

clyburn is one of the most powerful democrats in congress. what the senator explained is if it weren't for congressman clybur of course he wts congressman clyburn representing the interests of his home county of charleston but he witnesse to keep a republican there too in case there's a change in leadership in washington. the senator's o dft map kept the split in charleston county. he wanted to keep a portion of charleston county in his district as well. >> what was the black voting that map? district one in >> it waon 15.48%,er than where it ended up under the enacted plan. by more than a point. >> i have a question abo gusa's expert report. the circumstan evidence is what the plainffrelied on and the whole issue o disentangling race partisanship. i understoodour brief to say, but yohan't said this yet, so i want to make sure i understand it correctly, he did not take into account factors like contigusns and compactness so he was assuming that youou have essentially an island c off in the middle of the districthat would have more black voter

you were with clyburn in the last congress. have you had any back channel discussions with speaker pro tem mchenry, or any of the other district republicans, as i call them, about a path forward? >> i have not personally had any discussions with my country. i have talked to democrats who have had discussions with my country. i think those discussions seem to be very pleasant. they seem to have been very pleasant. the door's still open. >> congressman clyburn president biden has a sense i think it's 105, 105 billion dollar aid package for israel, ukraine, and other security priorities. house congress going to get this passed without a speaker? >> i don't think we can get it there without a speaker, unless we were doing something of a temporary nature. to expand the authority as they operate in this capacity. in order to get this in a few other things done. doesn't say they have to do it on a permanent basis, but you make adjustments. we are living in a pretty precarious time, and we have got to do the people's business. we are t

congresswoman jim clyburn of south carolina is here. we are going to ask him about that and the new speaker of the house. i am simone sanders thompson and i have something to say. good afternoon, it is four pm eastern in new york. 11 pm in israel and gaza. a major escalation is underway in the israel-hamas war exactly three weeks after the october 7th attack, hours after sending tanks and infantry into the gaza strip, it has moved into the next stage of war. here is what prime minister benjamin netanyahu said just a couple hours ago. >> there's moments in which a nation faces two options to exist or to seize. and right now this is the kind of test we are facing. and i have no doubt how it will end. we will come out triumphant. >> israeli forces say that the latest barrage of airstrikes hit 150 underground targets in northern gaza and neutralized key members of hamas's leadership. including some architects of the initial attack on israel. israeli forces have escalated their air, land, and see operations in gaza since yesterday. and in th

thank you very much for joining us on this historic night, congressman clyburn. as i said to alex wagner, you had a right to believe that you had seen everything in the house of representatives, until today. >> well, thank you very much for having me, lawrence. you're right. i thought i had seen it all. and i thought that i'd read about stuff way back yonder that we never see again. i was wrong. history does have a way of repeating itself, and ever since i think it was joseph cannon was subjected to this kind of a vote. but even then, the vote did not prevail. today it did. it looks as if we are now confronted with a conference that is trying to run the entire house of representatives, that is divided against itself. and that, as we know from history, it will not prevail. so, we will come back in another week and hopefully they will get their act together. -- because they country is looking to us for leadership. the country needs stability around the world. and within our borders. and we ought to be providing it in a bipartisan way. the democrats demonstrated las

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>>he original plan from representative clyburn's office had a lower black population for district one and what ultimately emerged. the relevance in the overall record. >> i think isrrelevant because i don't think is map determines close done but even more parcel map and the state jury out the district and drew t the other six districts so no idea wt would be based upon for the record rles. >> justice jackson. >> i guess i'm still struggling with the application. justice alito asked about the reasshat district court hilighted the why it did not credit mr. roberts ttiny and consistent with what i understood to require of us, i didn't know we were to evaluate whether we agreed or disag, a dfent take away from the district court sided ring hollow a basis for clear error, do i notnderstand what the standard is? >> the ability forhe court to listen to really giving deference by the court the gerrymandering finding is here finding. we don't believe they gave a possible explanation, we think it is possible, that distinction, the fact that we disagree with that subsidiary finding is that the b

congressman clyburn, thank you for joining me tonight.eems to be so much confusion in the house republican conference. i'm wondering whether you can tell us your understanding of the situation as it stands right now. do you believe that republicans have completely closed the door on the idea of patrick mchenry being made a more medium term speaker? >> well, thank you very much for having me. it seems that way and that is very regretful. i do believe that american people are looking to us for civility, for cooperation, and quite frankly, for compromise. nobody gets their way all the time, and we should, as leaders of this great country, demonstrate to the american people that we understand what it is to find common ground, and what is required. now they're holding on, my republican friends, to rules set that -- that you've got to have all republicans on board and not need any democrats. well that's not the country. this country is pretty evenly divided politically, and we ought to compliment our work here by reflecting what the country sta

and clearly hurt him according to clyburn. some democrats that might have even considered voting present, they all rank and file went with the entire group's consensus, which was to not bail mccarthy out in this moment. and it probably didn't have to be quite like this if he had played it a bit of a different way. >> i think it goes back even further than that. if you think of how kevin mccarthy assumed the speakership, it was by making tremendous concessions to the far right flank, from giving video footage to tucker carlson of the january 6th insurrection to the capitol, to putting freedom caucus members on the rules committee, to changing threshold for the motion to vacate. he set up a speakership that at that time people were saying would likely be one of the shortest in history. surely enough, the same agents of chaos who made it very difficult 15 rounds for him to become speaker are pulling what they are now. this is kind of a strategic miscalculation by mccarthy. i'm shocked there is no bigger effort to try to whip some

congressman clyburn, great to see you this evening.you think asking for a pause on this israeli military incursion into gaza makes sense right now? what's your sense of it? >> well, thank you very much for having me. it certainly makes sense to me. i do believe that president biden has been very wise to council the leadership in israel as to what happened with us after 9/11. everybody was angry, people wanted to take revenge. and that is something that was natural. but we made some mistakes them. some of which we still are paying for and we ought to learn from our mistakes. he knows what those mistakes are and i think it's wise for him to share them with the leaders in israel and hopefully they won't allow their anger to cloud their thinking and not do what's best. >> congressman, do you think a full-scale incursion into gaza is a mistake for the israels if they go through with it? >> >> well, you know, it's been since my sophomore year in college that i've studied military science and tactics. and so i don't know a whole lot about tha

congn clyburn's map kept the split in charleston county. he wanted to keep a portion in his district as well. >> what was the blackotg population in district 1 in that map? >> lower than where it ended up under the other plan by more than a point. >> i have a question about d ragusa's expert report. these circumstantial evidence is he plaintiffs relied on. the whole iss disentangling raisman part seven ship -- partisanshipgrace and partisanship. to make sure i understand your brief. he did not take into account factors like contiguous as an compactness. he was assuming you could have an island, in the middle district that would have more black voters, which would then not be contiguos. >>hat is correct. the other piece of that is he did not control or test for that is on page 197 the joint appendix. it would be psible to draw differnes for district one in johnson county or chester, which are both split. but if you wt at other vtd, you have to make trade-offs elsewhere. if yourehanging the shape of the dt or picking up addion population, you

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did he ever say we followed exactly what congressman clyburn asked us to do. did he ever say that?> the statement makes a big defenseir weapons is what representativelyburn was seeking. the brief shows that is not what the record reflects and congressman's clyburn's map didn't treat map of that rted basis arbitration t did not harm west ashley in the same way. >> let me come back about why your experts did not produce an alternative map. the d produced 10,000 maps, right? >> correct. >> sion with 10,000 maps. he never considered politics. >> his testimony reflects that he tested for the crite that guidelines thetiveg in their criteria. the twooctors are used as furthe support recognized to show that race was a significant factor. sean trendy or trend evaluated dr. ragusa's maps that the crats would win 90% of the maps that dr. ragusa pd. did the doctor usehe political data and decided to shelf it when the results were not favorable to your client? it never occurred to him that po havsomething to >> this is being tasked w particular questions. i don't believe requirement look at eve

clyburn. it was this righteous brother who was the first chair of the board. an early staunch advocate for this museum. sure, having the carolina gold gallery named after their brother, congressman wolf, fought every time him to this great museum. it will stand among his county list accomplishments for his for our country. i'm not gonna stop there and for our world brother. congress smiling. it's not from the. it's not from middle is from the bottom of our hearts that we thank you and i want to. brother professor ibarra, artist bernard powers. why. for his important work, the academy. work that center in teaching and learning about that profoundly peculiar institute that enslavement of millions of african people. but we also to acknowledge and thank you, brother. professor, for your work as. the interim president of this museum. now, when we think about the work of all of these individual on this long journey from the very idea of this museum to this day, then i've just got to lift up another

clyburn, mr. neguse why colorado, the gentlewoman from texas, ms. escobar, the gentlewoman from illinois, ms. underwood, the gentlewoman from florida, ms. w. the gentleman from michigan, mr. kildee, the gentlewoman from california, ms. jacobs, the gentlewoman from texas, ms. crockett, and the members of the louisiana delegation, mr. graves, mr. higgins, ms. ledlow, mr. carter. the committee will retire from the chamber to escort the speaker elect to the chair. the speaker pro tempore: the house will come to order. >> mr. speaker, the speaker-elect, mike johnson from the state of louisiana. the speaker pro tempore: the house will come to order. mr. jeffries: speaker mike johnson and speaker emerita pelosi. whip clark, chairman aguilar and all of my colleagues, honor and privilege to stand before you as house democratic leader. from the very beginning of this congress, house democrats have made clear that we will find bipartisan, common ground with our republican colleagues whenever and wherever possible, for the good of the american people. and house

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there is though -- mika asked jim clyburn about it.ce, same thing with steny hoyer. those are pretty important for some of the members to be able to operate on and off the floor. just talk about the animosity that led to that. i think it's important people unrsnd what you say. they may have a small majority, but they are in charge of the house. >> yeah. it's an important point. whether or not you blame democrats for taking mccarthy out -- i have no position on that specifically. they could have saved him, of course. they do control the institution. i don't think this is penetrating -- i want to say this based on my reporting. i'm not sure this is penetrating with democrats. i don't know a single candidate for speaker that would put funding for ukraine on the floor. these kinds of issues -- i understand democrats had to do what they did. they consider this an internal party fight. even the things to keep -- like ukraine funding, which we staked as a country and government a lot of our credibility on, that's not going to come to the floo

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congressman jim clyburn, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >>> joining us now, former adviser to paul ryan and john boehner, brendan buck. his positions on abortion, do you see that as a problem for republicans generally going in to 2024? >> i think the issue is a problem for republicans generally. i don't know that mike johnson changes that. the first thing republicans did this congress after getting beat on this issue in the last election was bring up a series of bills on abortion. this is who the republican conference is right now. what was happening under kevin mccarthy was happening with steve scalise. they're going to lean into that, whether or not that works out for them, i'm pretty skeptical. all of these things that we're talking about, and we're learning about mike johnson, putting him sort of on the far right of the scale is just a reflection of that's what this conference is. >> do you see them working with democrats? i know he had those kind words about working together, and democrats

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they would find members $5,000 if it went off, but when nancy went around or clyburn got something, it all got waived. the idea that bills and i have to go through committee. the idea that created a select committee on january 6 and they wouldn't let the minority appoint who to do it. i'm trying to change all that and bring the body back so they can work together. but i think they did a lot of damage. >> [indiscernible] rep. mccarthy: that's always been my goal. i just talk to mitch yesterday and i called into schumer and talked to hakeem last night. we have taken five up, we passed four of them. i was going to start individually preconference thanks so we could get the work done. i'm concerned with the timeline now. look, i truly believe, at the end of the day, we can get this all worked out. i do believe at the end of the day we can find common ground and do something about the border. i don't know if this has caused doubt. they had the other tv on msnbc. it was running a whole story about the border with people just walking across. pritzker sent a letter yesterday about immigration.

jim clyburn has a fish fry and i remember going to the fish fry and being amazed, and people were therehe south. half of the room laughed and half of the room looked puzzled. then afterwards, i had a ton of members, older members loved me and say, what to do you say about cockroaches? what is it question like i had the opportunity to explain what coachella was. >> stephen: opportunity to educate is always welcome. his did a lot of drama in congr. you are there at a interesting time. congress nearly avoided or shut down recently. what was that like? >> representative frost: here's the thing. since they have gone to congress, i've been in the midst of all chaos, right? when i first got there we voted for speaker of the house 15 times. i got sworn in at 2:00 a.m. on a friday night, right? so that's my experience coming into congress. >> stephen: why 2:00 a.m. on a friday night? >> representative frost: because the republicans couldn't get their stuff together and they couldn't elect a speaker and they went 15 times and went into the dead of night doing it and that's when i got sworn in. th

. >> bakari, one thing we were talking about with jim clyburn in the last hour is maybe there's a newfound appreciation for what nancy pelosi was able to do as the house speaker. >> yes. >> when she cracked the whip, she cracked the whip. she could whip votes like nobody else, and that is just an art form that has not, i think, materialized on the republican side just yet. >> no, no, no. she's going to go down as one of the greatest legislators of all time. i think that individuals who served with her during her time will acknowledge that as well. what the republican party has now is a bunch of characters and caricatures. i think from matt gaetz to nancy mace to many of the other individuals who serve right now, the boeberts, these individuals who just come to make it a show, who want to get instagram reels or tiktoks, who are not about the business of the people. i think you're starting to see that their allure may be fading within the republican caucus, but the republican party has a cancer, and that cancer is really showing itself right now in that house gop caucus. nancy pelosi was one

but their generational transfer of power pelosi and hoyer and clyburn to this new generation was seamless, without any at least public dispolice, everything was okay now these guys are going to do their jobs. they all stayed in office, but they are giving up their leadership. and these other three came about. there was very little drama, if any publicly a at least, and that was it. >> that was so important to nancy pelosi. she organized with hoyer. that was not always a given. and it was flawless. who knows what they did behind the scenes, but it was flawless and this, what we're watching now, the republicans, is as mess. >> listen, the new leadership team on the democratic side looks like america. you have an african-american, a latino, you have a white woman. so you hear sort of the cheers there -- >> i apologize. i want to listen to congressman rutherford from florida. >> roy? >> jordan. >> ruiz? >> jeffries. >> ruppersberger? >> jeffries. >> rutherford? >> scalise. >> so that's 19 no votes for jim jordan, who is obviously not going to win the speakership on this ballot, unless there's