let's bring in our financial analyst clyde anderson to talk about this.g. >> do low ratsdz mean the housing -- >> it's a slow recovery, but there is a recovery. think about it. 3.8%. 30-year fixed mortgage. who knew we would get down this low? those are amazing rates, and it's driving a lot of people into the market and it's making mortgages affordable. >> it's a little shuffle, right? it's not a full race. not fully there yet. >> i like that. >> so the rates may be low, but i guess the question is are people buying? >> yeah. people are buying. first time home buyers are the ones really buying. again, banks are lending as much as they were in the past. they're not making it as easy to lend. 640 is barely the rate you're going to have to be around to get a reasonable or good market loan and to take advantage of these low mortgage rates, and you have to make sure the credit is good as well. >> that's great news. >> all right. so they're up, and that is good news, as you say, or great news as you say. what about the loans? are the loans getting any easier fo