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cme group can help you navigate risks and capture opportunities. we enable you to reach global markets and drive forward with broader possibilities. cme group - how the world advances. ♪ >>> oil prices had been holding modestly lower heading into the close but have now accelerated some of those losses into the close overall. you with see west texas intermediate fell off by 1.5%. there's a bit of a sentiment change we are seeing energy stocks move off the highs of the session remember this afternoon will be key read here. we get the american petroleum numbers coming we'll see what happens as we go into the closing bell later on this afternoon back over to you >> thank you very much mpl >>> just as the nba-china was dying down, lebron james reignited it >> he wasn't educated on the situation at hand and he spoke so many people could have been harmed not only financially, physically, motiemotionally, spiritually. be careful what we tweet and say. we do have freedom of speech but there can be a lot of negative >> he later clarified his statement which

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rick stantelli is standing by at the cme.utlook that's still not out yet i picked the wrong one, i guess. september housing starts, they are 1.256 million seasonally adjusted analyzed units. a bit light. last look 1.364, was upgraded to 1.38, the best in over ten years. and if we look at the drop from 1.386 to the current read of 1.256, that's a drop of over 9%. if we look at perms, they drop close to 3% from 1.425 to the current read at 1,387,000 seasonally analyzed adjusted units. philly fed just popped out 5.6, two points lighter than the 7.6 we were expecting and a little more than half of the sequential in the rear view mirror jobless claims moved up 4,000 to 214,000. and 1.69 to 1.79 just shy of 1.68 million to summarize the data, permit starts are at good levels. they were just already at really good levels. drop at interest rates had something to do with that. on the start side, multi-family, of course, always seems to rise more aggressively. dollar index coming in again a quarter cent lower interest rates, the long e

cme group - how the world advances. ♪ >>> now let's get to the cme group in chicago rick santelli withncent reinhart thanks for joining me. let's get right into it. i liked when jay powell came in and overtime morphed to the notion we'll make our decision as time and conditions necessitate. we're using the model of three eases and a pause. in the mid 90s, no ecb, no negative interest rates, no euro the ecb didn't come into existence until june of '98 watching "truman show" and "armageddon. is this the right way to proceed? >> i would pity jay powell because his office is in a building full of economists and their message is just sinking in to him and we're getting a little less of the plain-spoken chair we thought we'd get at the beginning. you're exactly right they haven't gotten the memo that the united states is part our trading partners than to us, but it's still important to us, and that matters for the efficacy of federal reserve policy. >> now, let's take this a step farther. the liquidity issues that seem to be at least for the time being under control really are a function of

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cme group - how the world advances. ♪ the street."ome momentum through the course of the morning so far the s&p 500 is hovering around that 3,000 mark, trying to work towards record highs we have weakness in communication services sectors as well as energy being offset by a little bit of strength in the technology sector, up almost a full percent that's following a string of strong earnings results. you have paypal and microsoft both pushing that sector higher, but the real standout is a chip maker, lamb research, posting better than expected profits and sales, maybe allaying fears about weakness in the semiconductor market and sector. we'll get another check of chips this afternoon when dell component reports. intel shares in focus now that lam research is in the books back to you, carl. >> thanks for that. >>> a closer look at some movers today, for every lam research there's a 3m, which is weighing heavily on the dow, close to ssn seiolows, down 86. don't go away. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i get it all the time. "have you lost weight?" of course i

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romaine: great to have you, dan deming of kkm financial, from the cme.omberg business flash, a look at some of the biggest business stories in the news right now. saudi aramco pushing to complete that delayed ipo this year. bloomberg has learned that the oil giant may make a formal announcement as soon as next week, or at least the next couple of weeks. it was originally scheduled for october 20, and delayed when aramco got mixed feedback from international investors. giantitish consumer goods has lowered its sales forecast. the reason, weak demand for flu medicine in the united states and baby formula in china. nine years ago, the royal bank of canada said its goal of becoming a top 10 investment bank in the united states. now, rbc capital markets has risen to number 10 in the rankings for advising on u.s. mergers and acquisitions. this year, rbc market share is just under 10%. and that is your bloomberg business flash. romaine: let's get a quick check of what is happening in the markets right now. s&p 500 holding pre-much around --re it started today h

chris robinson joins us from the cme.e every few days, we get a headlines about soybeans. i'm curious as to what impact you are actually seeing on soybean futures. is it all done? has the repricing of the contract happened? chris: we don't know. we had a good repricing in the last two to three weeks. got a lot of producers in better shape than they were when we were on contract lows. what are we looking at? on thursday, we'll get a new usda report, world supply and demand. that could impact prices. thursday morning, once that comes out around 11:00 in chicago, it could be a repricing event. all in all, two things drove the soybean market this year. obviously we had a very wet spring, and we also had the concern about what is really going on as we see this ping-pong daily. we have a deal, the deal looks like it is going to get better, the deal goes away. it's been a very frustrating 2019 for farmers and producers, anybody that is a natural long. seen a you've also little bit of a similar impact on corn, although probably m

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