we can see that the cmo is attended. page five, _ yes. we can see that the cmo is attended.ive, current situation— attended. page five, current situation update. more information about— situation update. more information about incubation period, latent period — about incubation period, latent period. paragraph three, an update from the _ period. paragraph three, an update from the minister of state at the foreign — from the minister of state at the foreign... for, the permanent secretary— foreign... for, the permanent secretary for the department of health — secretary for the department of health and social care talks about arrangements for isolation. if you could _ arrangements for isolation. if you could scroll back out please, thank you. could scroll back out please, thank you and _ could scroll back out please, thank you. and then, paragraph six, the chair— you. and then, paragraph six, the chair invites — you. and then, paragraph six, the chair invites the cmo to summarise the latest _ chair invites the cmo to summarise the latest certificate advice on limiting — the la

but that's the main sort of difference between cmo. so anything you would interact with as a levi's consumer that came from me and my team. if you saw an ad, if you put on a pair of pants, we did that. so who was chip? who is chip? bergh shipper is, the ceo of levi's remaining today, still the ceo, although he has stated that he will probably retire soon. i think he's about 65 military guy and his youth worked at procter and gamble for over 20 years. and then moved over to become the ceo of levi's in 2011. he would call himself a brand guy. i think his politics were probably fairly conservative when he joined levi's. i mean, he said that to me directly, but moving to san francisco opened his eyes and, you know, he took more and more very left wing stances, which i'm fine. anybody wants to do that personally. i've done so personally as well, forcing that on all of your employees, just allowing them to express any sort of dissenting view from that. that is not profits through principles. do you consider chip bergh, a friend and a mentor?

>> probably by the time i was cmo which was 2013. i was very bad at advocating for myself in terms of compensation and all of that. i was terrible at it. i remember when i became the cmo, somebody accidentally sent me, i don't think this is in the book, like a spread sheet with everyone's salary at my level, they didn't mean to send that to me and i was the lowest paid person and i was like, what? what am i doing, i'm the highest performer. i had never been so good at that. >> you tell the story in the book meeting with hr and telling you no increase in pay, take the good job. >> right, and i agreed to that. that was stupid. >> so at what point did you start to become known as the troublemaker at levi's? >> you know, i don't think-- >> and i hate to use that word if it's not-- >> that's a nice way to put it. i think the real way would have been like not a troublemaker, but a q-anon conspiracy theorist is kind of what i was known as. i was pretty outspoken in covid, march of 2020, i questioned school closures. i didn't get a call from

>> probably in 2014 myself compensation and all of that i remember when i became cmo somebody accidentallytt me a spreadsheet with everyone's salary at my levels, you mean to send it to me and i was the lowest a question and i was like what what my doing? i always not been good about. >> you do to restrain the book about meeting with hr and no increase in pay and i agreed to the it was stupid. >> so crime did you start to become known as the troublemaker. >> i don't think -- >> i hate to use that word. >> a nice way to put it. i think the real was be qanon conspiracy theorist is when i became known as. i started, i was outspoken the start like march 2020 question. i didn't get a call early will until september 2020. i knew it wasy controversial ad my friends are like what are you doing? maybe they are not on twitter, maybe they just didn't notice that i was wrong in the the fiscal 2022 my. who is the head of corporate clinical and people were noticing and i said so? your kids areen in school, like this will arrive at school. >> public school, your kids still in in public school. >> at that

advised and through the cmo and the csa the government was _ sage advised and through the cmo and thele to control the spread - that the ability of the state to be able to control the spread of i that the ability of the state to be able to control the spread of the | able to control the spread of the virus _ able to control the spread of the virus was — able to control the spread of the virus was very— able to control the spread of the virus was very much _ able to control the spread of the virus was very much weakened. i able to control the spread of the i virus was very much weakened. it was plain that _ virus was very much weakened. it was plain that there — virus was very much weakened. it was plain that there would _ virus was very much weakened. it was plain that there would be _ virus was very much weakened. it was plain that there would be very - virus was very much weakened. it was plain that there would be very real- plain that there would be very real difficulties— plain that there would be very real difficulties in— plain that there would be very real difficulties in contr

i remember when i became the cmo somebody accidentally sent me, i don't think this is in the book, a spreadsheet with everyone's salary at my level, they didn't mean to send that to me and i was the lowest paid person and i was like what? what am i doing, i'm the highest performer but i've not been very good at that. >> host: you tell the story about meeting with hr and them telling you no increase in pay, take the good job. >> guest: and i agreed to that. that was stupid. >> host: at what point did you start to become known as the troublemaker at levi's? is that -- i hate to -- >> guest: that's a nice way to put it, the weird way would be not a troublemaker but conspiracy theorist is what i became known as. i started, pretty outspoken right from the start in march 2020 i questioned those measures. i didn't get a call from anyone until september 2020. i knew it was controversial, maybe they are not on twitter. i was wrong. i got a call in 2020 from ip who was head of corporate communications saying people are noticing, they don't like it and i said so? your kids are in school, right?

what did number ten make of the fact that the cmo had reported there _ the fact that the cmo had reportedt think we j appreciated that nuance at the transmission? i don't think we i appreciated that nuance at the time. i think throughout february there wasn't a clear call on whether there wasn't a clear call on whether there was sustained community transmission in the uk. ~ , was sustained community transmission in the uk. ~ .,, , ., ., ., in the uk. was number ten aware of this issue. — in the uk. was number ten aware of this issue. and _ in the uk. was number ten aware of this issue, and the _ in the uk. was number ten aware of this issue, and the need _ in the uk. was number ten aware of this issue, and the need to - in the uk. was number ten aware of this issue, and the need to ensure l this issue, and the need to ensure that they— this issue, and the need to ensure that they understood whether there was sustained transmission? | that they understood whether there was sustained transmission? i think es, we was sustained transmission? i think yes. we knew _ was sustained transmission?

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page five, paragraph two, the cmo provides an update to cobra, providing information about the numbernd how long they had been in hospital before they died, this is all to do of course with cases abroad, particular china, the two most high risk groups appear to be the elderly and those with preexisting illness, if you could scroll back out, page six, between paragraphs nine and 11, there is a debate about planning for a reasonable worse case scenario. and the director of the civil contingency sec star yacht sets it out for the reasonable worst case scenario, there is a debate about communications strategy, an emergency bill, and work with local resilience forums are. on this day or the day after, you sent a text to a whatsapp group, the number ten action whatsapp grew saying the chief scientist told me todayit saying the chief scientist told me today it is probably out of control now and will sweep world. were you aware of the tenure of the debate and what was being discussed in cobra in february?— and what was being discussed in cobra in february? probably, i don't remember. — cobra

there is an e—mail to the cmo's me know.here is an e—mail to the cmo's office dated june 2020 in which it says reported that the cabinet office had asked the hrc to look at communications around the recovery of patients follow the limo following covid—19 infection. were you aware of this request for information about the recovery of patients following covid—19? i was patients following covid-19? i was not, no. patients following covid-19? i was not. no- you _ patients following covid-19? i was not, no. you say _ patients following covid-19? i was not, no. you say you _ patients following covid-19? i was not, no. you say you weren't? - patients following covid-19? i was| not, no. you say you weren't? can ou hel not, no. you say you weren't? can you help us — not, no. you say you weren't? can you help us as — not, no. you say you weren't? can you help us as to _ not, no. you say you weren't? can you help us as to whether- not, no. you say you weren't? can you help us as to whether there i not, no. you say you weren't? can i yo

>> pummeled by the time most cmo which was 2013. was very bad at advocating for myself with compensation and all of that i was terrible at it. i remember when i became the cml someone accidentally sent me i don'tok think this is in the bo, like a spreadsheet with everyone's salary at my level they did not mean to send that to me i was the lowest paid person. i was like a what? i am the highest performer but i had not been very good at that. but you do tell the story in the book about meeting with hr and them telling no increase in pay. >> i agree to that. that was stupid. at what point did you start to become known as the troublemaker? i hate to use that word for. >> it's a nice way to put it. i think the real way would've been not a troublemaker q&a on conspiracy theorist is what i became known as. was pretty outspoken rate from the start of covid mike march 2020 i question school closures. i did not get a call from anyone until september of 2020. i knew it was controversy over my friends like what you doing question nobody because

tie saturday meeting i think was quite in a team, so i can't remember if the cmo and csa were there,ollowing day was a wider cast list for the meeting. but it was agreed that we would have to -o but it was agreed that we would have to go into _ but it was agreed that we would have to go into national lockdown? broadly _ to go into national lockdown? broadly. it was agreed we needed to suppress urgently, and then it was a case of how we do that, yes. 50 suppress urgently, and then it was a case of how we do that, yes. so what i want to know _ case of how we do that, yes. so what i want to know is, _ case of how we do that, yes. so what i want to know is, did _ case of how we do that, yes. so what i want to know is, did the _ case of how we do that, yes. so what i want to know is, did the message i i want to know is, did the message then go— i want to know is, did the message then go out— i want to know is, did the message then go out to all government departments that we are now in warm mode _ departments that we are now in warm mode and _ departments that we are now in warm mode and

paragraph two, the cmo five of.ra providing information about the number of individuals who had died and how long they had been in hospital before they died. this is all to do, of course, with case abroad and particular china, the two most high risk groups appear to be the elderly and those with pre—existing illnesses. if you could scroll back out, page six between paragraphs nine and 11, there is a debate about planning for a reasonable worst case scenario and the director of the civil contingencies secretariat sets out the planning priorities for the work undennay to develop planning assumptions for the pandemic . reasonable worst planning assumptions for the pand scenario . reasonable worst planning assumptions for the pand scenario , reasonable worst planning assumptions for the pand scenario , therenable worst planning assumptions for the pand scenario , there isble worst planning assumptions for the pand scenario , there is then orst planning assumptions for the pand scenario , there is then ast case scenario,