republican senator tom coburn of oklahoma, he is back home in his state for the august recess, tom coburn engaged a group of his constituents on the issue of medicare. senator coburn of one of 40 republicans who voted for the paul ryan kill medicare budget in the senate. and while at home in oklahoma, this week, "the tulsa world newspaper" quotes coburn as telling his constituents, you can't tell me the system is better now than it was before medicare. so double negative there -- oh, tom coburn is saying we were better off without medicare. he is nostalgic for an america before medicare. an america without medicare. "the tulsa world" continuing, coburn agreed that some people receive poor care or no care before medicare was enacted in the 1960s, but he said, communities worked together to make sure most people received needed medical attention. he also conceded that doctors and hospitals often went unpaid for their efforts or accepted baked goods or chickens. in partial payment. chickens for checkups. it's back. unbelievably, it's back. chickens, specifically. it couldn't be some other ki

today there's a story about republican governor tom coburn. coburn and obama are friends. here is coburn back in april. >> i think he is a neat man. i don't want him to be president. but i still love him. he is our president. he's my president. and i disagree with him, adamantly, on 95% of the issues. but that doesn't mean i can't have a great relationship. and that's a model people ought to follow. >> so this is his friend. and a constituent recently asked this friend, senator coborn, if president obama, quote, wants to destroy america. coburn, the president's friend, responded with this. quote, obama's intent is not to destroy. his intent is to create dependency because it worked so well for him as an african-american male. obama received tremendous advantages from a lot of these programs. all right. catching my breath. the paper reports that coburn went on to say that most of the country's problems were created by congress, and that, quote, i don't think that presidents matter that much. now, look, harry truman famously equipped, if you want a friend in washington, get

i want to say here that senator tom coburn of oklahoma and i in june introduced a proposal that would take steps to save medicare for the almost 70 million people who will be on medicare in a decade and reduce the enormous costs it places on our taxpayers. i think a lot of people in our country think that the payroll deductions and the premiums they pay pay the total benefits of medicare. unfortunately, not so. the average medicare beneficiary if their lifetime takes three or four dollars out of the system for every dollar they put in, and you just can't run a program long term like that. and who picks up the rest? the taxpayers, the budget. that's a big part of why we're heading into deficit. so you can't save medicare by leaving it as it is. you can only save medicare and i want to save medicare i believe in the program if you change it. senator coburn and i put forward this plan that will save over over $600 billion in medicare costs over the next decade. extend the solvency of medicare by at least 30 years and reduce medicare's 75-year unfunded liabilities by $10 trillion. now, i

the coburn language on e.a.s., someone might say, well, it it was coburn so there must have been this spirited debate in the senate and broke down by party lines and everybody was yelling. the coburn language on essential air services passed the united states senate by voice vote. then you can flip forward and say, well, if this was such a big deal, then surely the democrats in the senate would have opposed final passage of the senate f.a.a. bill because it contained the coburn e.a.s. language. 87 senators -- and i don't have the roll call but you can figure out who they are -- and when you get 87 senators in this town to do anything, it's an accomplishment and i would assume that in that 87 number, there are a number of members from the democratic party. and the coburn language, to be clear, indicates that for those airports that are on the e.a.s. program that are within 90 miles of a hub airport, rather than the american taxpayer subsidizing the cost of the ticket and paying the airline to transport those people, we're going to ask those folks to get in their car and drive the less

. >>> and tom coburn can't believe he did this. sutted president obama wants to create a culture of dependency in america, because coburn says it works so well for obama as an african-american. it's hard to know where to even start with that one, but we'll try in the "sideshow." i can't believe coburn said that. >>> finally, finish with rick perry and the politics changing the republican party. we start with what we're calling the host's takeover are the republican party. mark halperin, senior political an lift and "time" editor at large and michael, political analyst. gentlemen, a tough question. the gop now, the top three candidates are, of course, bachmann, won the straw poll in ames. rick perry the new kid on the block, and perhaps the hot hand, and mitt romney, who seems to be holding on, and no more. has the party moved dramatically towards the tea party world, mark? >> it has moved dramatically in that direction ever since the passage of health care. maybe even before that. the party is on a roll in elections, and in momentu

the coburn language on e.a.s., you know, someone might say, ok, it was coburn and so there must have been this really spirited debate over in the senate and broke down by party lines and everybody was yelling. the coburn language on essential air services passed the united states senate by voice vote. then you can flip forward and say, well, if this was such a big deal then surely the democrats in the senate would have opposed final passage of the senate f.a.a. bill because it contained the coburn e.s.a. language. 87 senators -- e.a.s. language. 87 senators, and when you get 87 senators in this town to do anything, it's an accomplishment, and i would assume that in that 87 number, a number of members of the democratic party. and the coburn language, to be clear, indicates that for those airports that are on the e.a.s. program, that are within 90 miles of a hub airport, rather than the american taxpayer subsidizing the cost of the ticket and paying the airlines to transport those people, we're going to ask those folks to get in their car and drive the less than 90 miles to a hub airpo

yes, that senator coburn. and yes, they are the political odd couple.imulus to debt reduction to healthcare, these two men can't disagree more. but somehow they find a way to get along. but how? well, they attended senate orientation sessions together in 2004 and hit it off. they wound up working together on bills to help hurricane katrina victims. and president obama called coburn a quote, friend of his, on the campaign trail. so it was interesting this week when coburn was asked about the president at a town hall in oklahoma. the question, does president obama want to destroy america? >> wow. these are real questions from real americans. but check out coburn's response. no, i don't. wow. a real friend. look at that. but wait. then coburn said this, quote, he's a very bright man, but i think about his life and think about what he was exposed to. and what he saw in america. he's only relating what his experience there life was. his intent isn't to destroy, it's to create dependency because it worked so well for him. coburn went on to say, as an african-

coburn: reserving the right to object. the presiding officer: the senator from are the senator from oklahoma. mr. coburn: i would note there is nothing we can do new because the house has adjourned. so even if we were to pass this, nothing would happen with it. i've been assured that from the leader's office, the majority leader's office. i agree with the senator from california that probably any action on the mediation board is probably inappropriate for this bill. i wouldn't disagree with that. but my -- my reservation -- and i plan on objecting and i think the good senator from california knows that, is both in the house and the senate by significant votes we passed limitations on essential air services. and so -- by majorities that said we could no longer afford to spend thousands of dollars on individual seats on subsidies for people who live 110 miles from an airport or 140 miles from an airport, but what we could do is -- to major airports, that those under -- those above 90 we could still do that and so i understan

we had tom coburn on, mr.ll him around the morning joe set saying that absolutely nothing good came out of this deal. how are you feeling and will this pass the senate today? >> it will, joe. i notice that coburn was more upbeat and sunny than he normally is this morning. but it will pass the senate and i have -- i have a lot of heartburn over elements in this too. but i think it comes back to the question you posed earlier, if not this, what? and i think it is important not to oversell this because this is a start, this is certainly not a solution to the challenges that we face, but as you know, from having been here, so much of what happens in washington is directional. and when you are here and i was here and harold ford was here, years ago, the last time i remember when we were actually trying to turn the ship around and actually roll back the size of government. so this stuff is all -- it is directional. and it is a baby step, but i think that's the way you have to look at it. >> that's the great way to l

a good thing i can't pack or go out on the senate floor while i guess the one man filibuster tom coburn so often employs to stop arrested legislation or any legislation for that matter the list isn't good enough for him anymore now he wants to dictate the senate's agenda down the barrel of a gun now we have armed republican hostage takers and that's very very. get it out there's a disturbing increase in the number of children living in poverty in america while at the same time republicans are working feverishly to cut programs aimed to help those very same needy children so what happened to so-called compassionate conservatism. drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to prove it through to be made who can you trust no one who is you view with the global machinery see where we had a state controlled capitalism is called sackfuls when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more. welcome back to the big picture i'm sorry been coming up in this half hour as we move closer to the ten year anniversary of the september eleventh attacks residents of the b

and a very very ugly who else senator tom coburn a republican from oklahoma had some disturbing words for his colleagues in the senate tell touring around oklahoma yesterday coburn call is fellow senators career elitists and cowards and. it's just a good thing i can't pack or go out on the senate floor while i guess the one man filibuster tom coburn so often employs to stop arrested legislation or any legislation for that matter that doesn't like isn't good enough for him anymore now he wants to dictate the senate's agenda down the barrel of a gun now we have armed republican hostage takers and that's very very eyes. get it out there's a disturbing increase in the number of children living in poverty in america all at the same time republicans are working feverishly to cut programs aimed to help those very same needy children so what happened to so-called compassionate conservatism. that drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through to be made who can you trust no one who is in view with the global machinery to see where we had a state co

. >> well, i think you want to look what tom coburn did, and he had a beautiful piece today, but he's got a lot of guts, because he went out there and got rid of $6 billion bucks worth of subsidies and grover norquist had the guts to call that a tax increase, and tom said, one of his great allies, grover would be irrelevant in two years, he can't miss, but he's a good guy with a very bad idea, and he went and gathered up all those signatures when they were strewing roses in the pathways out here. grover comes up sign this. why would anyone sign anything before they heard the debate, before they read the documents, before they did anything? but i'll tell you about grover, if he's more powerful than the president of the united states, when coburn nailed him, he said if you're calling that a tax increase when you take away $6 billion ethanol, that's ludicrous and also deceptive and when we're digging into those tax expenditures and grover and his happy warriors are trying to call that a tax increase, that's a damn lie and he knows it. i'll tell you one thing, only thing grover can do to

how do you view that in light of what coburn said?at you just read is the sort of reaction that obama faces. frankly, that's just a light version of it. it's a lot rougher out there. i think that people who are critical of the president, and i'm critical of the president, obviously, in certain ways as i've already voiced, have to always be attentive to the pragmatic, the practical realities on the ground. and progressives, in being critical of the president, have to realize that basically we live in a center right leaning country. especially on cultural issues. and when we push the president, we have to recognize the limits that he faces. what progressives have to do is change the landscape within which barack obama must move. if we could push things further to the left, i think barack obama would come behind us. but progressives are going to have to move things and allow that to happen. >> all right. that's wise counsel from randall kennedy. we're going to have to leave it there for you. the book is "the persistence of the asubtle an

tom coburn got about 30 other republican senators to cross on that ethanol subsidy and vote against him. so is that the kind of crack in the norquist armor that we can hope appears in that super committee? >> well, if grover norquist is more powerful than the president of the united states and the congress, he should run for president. grover norquist should be examined into. where does he get his money? i mean, it's time to now peel all the layers of the onion off of grover norquist. any time anybody else gets this quote famous and powerful, the president or whoever it is in the spotlight, you want to dig in. how does he get his money, where does he come from, how many people on the payroll, who is he, who is he slave to? somewhere that needs to come out soon. because when a guy is this powerful, you want to dig deep in the root. i'm not talking about salacious stuff and his personal life, i'm talking about where does he get his scratch and how does he terrify people? does he walk up to a guy saying i'm going to defeat you? why would you be scared of anybody who says that? you must

i support, i don't say this often, i'm glad coburn asked for that.t's a step in the right direction. >> with one billion dollars we did a little digging. you could give the 100,000 troops serving in iraq and afghanistan, a $10,000 raise eve of them tomorrow. you could give two million school children brand new ipad 2's for learning. imagine the savings if you could save 10 billion or even 100 billion. >> exactly. that's why i think this report provides some targets of opportunity whether it is one billion or 10 billion, that's money that can be spent in a better way. >> i would ask every one of you to look at this report. none of us would run our families this way none of us would run our businesses this way and there is tremendous potential for us to accomplish great things for the american public and still take care of those that require a safety net by eliminating duplication in the dollars we are spending that we don't get anything in return for. >> reporter: republican senator tom coburn of oklahoma requested the study, the first of its kind. >>

we were confused finding out what the heck is the deal and if that is accurate but senator coburn joins us from the fine state of oklahoma and member of the "gang of six." senator, good to have you. is that part on the table? is that in the second wave when you have to decide on the next wave of cuts, revenue or tax hikes could be on the table? >>guest: the key this rests on is something called sequestration, whatever you don't get done in a select committee you get sequestration. how many times has that worked? what is the reason for politicians to keep that? zero. think of the droughts in the southwest and southeast united states. think of the floods. do you think the members are the congress will not get $40 billion or $50 billion and waive the sequestration? certainly they will. i see no cut in spending, a decrease in the rate of increasing spending, and no substantive long term reforms. >>neil: would you be a yes or a no? >>guest: i'm a no, no question. it is like having a patient with pneumonia and you treat them with tylenol rather than giving them antibiotics. we are not solving

one, simpsons bowles, paul ryan a fix on medicare and another is tom coburn, a fix on taxes. >> tom coburn i like. quick? >> defaulting to the middle class. basically what it is. a default is -- >> you're not answering my question. is there a politician working today that can lead america out of thesis problems? >> note that i know of. >> i agree with sam. what type of leader does it take to problem solve through complex challengeseik a little bit off your rocker. >>> be sure to check out, dylanratigan.com, speaking of off your rocker, for jobs wanted. our special report on trade, taxes and banking. three areas we must address to bring investment and prosperity back to america. but is there any political will when it comes down to it? sthats the question we're pitting out there. tell us what you think on the twitter at dylan ratigan and facebook. whenever you want. one log in lets you monitor all of your balances and transfer between accounts, so your money can move as fast as you do. check out your portfolio, track the market with live updates. and execute trades anywhere and anytime the

government help so much seems to be a theme in recent months just last week oklahoma senator tom coburn was asked if obama was trying to destroy the country and he said no but he claimed that obama was just trying to create dependency on the government because it worked so well for him when he was growing up coburn is thinking is that because obama is black he got a lot of extra help from the government growing up or at least some kind of preferential treatment under which there is really any evidence but let's go back to roger williams and his campaign at this is how he wraps everything up i've got to tell you some i'll be honest with you it's a lot easier to feed elephants it is gone ok and if i have to trade for elephants i'll do it. i am not expecting the average or is feeding elephants for that long to prove how much easier it is but will be kind of fun but go ahead roger williams mock democrats approves you're out of touch with everyday americans people are hurting in the country you want to compare them to jackasses just to win an election firstly i think that makes you kind of a

they get together and get tom coburn and dick dur fwin sign on to something. >> a liberal democrat and a republican fm oklahoma. >> yeah,hey were putting the country ahead of their personal feelings and they worked for months and months and months and they criticized and i'm sure the hours they spent arguing over given things that they had to compromise on. they get 11 out of 18 to agree and it gets tossed aside. i thk it was a terrible mistake. simpson-bowles should gain momentum. when you get peopleho work like crazy, many months, person reputations at stake and everything else and you get coburn and durbin, that's... i give credit to both of them, equal credit. i think... i may not agree with tom coburn but think he's a statesman. >> rose: he was prepared to take reductions in... >> absolutely. absolutely. >> rose: in corporate income tax. there is also this. the president's leadership. you have said on most social issues and on distribution of twelfth president and i are in sync. yes? >> yes. >> rose: what do you mean by that? >> i mean in terms of a woman's right to choose, in ter

i want to say here that senator tom coburn of oklahoma and i in june introduced a proposal that would take steps to save medicare for the almost 70 million people who will be on medicare in a decade and reduce the enormous costs it places on our taxpayers. i think a lot of people in our country think that the payroll deductions and the premiums they pay pay the total benefits of medicare. unfortunately, not so. the average medicare beneficiary if their lifetime takes three or four dollars out of the system for every dollar they put in, and you just can't run a program long term like that. and who picks up the rest? the taxpayers, the budget. that's a big part of why we're heading into deficit. so you can't save medicare by leaving it as it is. you can only save medicare and i want to save medicare i believe in the program if you change it. senator coburn and i put forward this plan that will save over over $600 billion in medicare costs over the next decade. extend the solvency of medicare by at least 30 years and reduce medicare's 75-year unfunded liabilities by $10 trillion. now, i

imtom coburn to stick around a long time. he's a good man and he has the interests of the country at heart. >> i couldn't agree more. it's between the difference between a capitalist and extractionist. you want to build value together or you want to pick people off. that's the only difference. >> no question. make no mistake about it the tenor of the times now, with people so disgusted with the congress and so disgusted with politics, it's a perfect time to move this amendment through. and it will catch the fancy of people, and everybody out there. 38% of american corporations pay no taxes. folks, how do you feel about that? ge, who made no -- >> and we bailed ge out with bond hurricanes that allowed them -- everybody knows this. that's the thing. via the last point and we'll say it again, this is all a pipe dream without the internet. >> no question. you won't get politicians and state legislators to do this on their own. you won't get a congressional movement on their own, but the internet can be the key here. you know, the

twenty year old last seen it all in this season but two metre three centimeter tall forward became coburn's most expensive ever blair following manager down people in a school with whom he spent two years at khushi in romania. a team that wants to develop and make a significant breakthrough in this transfer took place because of but trust him i know and respect a lot on my transfer was his idea to help me grow and develop my career. and it seems like that risk became dissatisfied with the results of the team so far as could one see eight and have one eye on the europa league welter already has become one of the most dangerous players among the bunch who are boring six bulls and making three assists nowhere says he is already used to living in exotic russia and is enjoying his time. i do that i mean by that often when i go to my national team my teammates ask me a lot about football in russia but the first questions are about the cold weather and racism but i tell them don't worry these big. aspects are fine it's even hotter in crescent of an africa they fully russians feel because of me and

even the tom coburns and mark warners. no certainty in the market's message. assume for a second there's a sports writer in philadelphia has a column called "if i were king of the world" and he says what he'd change in the sports world. make me king of the world for a second. i would basically make the gang of six, the senate representation on this committee. and let's assume the gang of six did its work, and we put together some long-term entitlements reform that saves significant mon on entitlements and does, yes, even cut some benefits and we put together a revenue package that makes sense, that is consistent with the data and the fact-finding from the last 20, 30, 40 years? we know what works and doesn't work when it comes to producing revenue. assume question all of that. can you guarantee us that the market's going to turn around and do well? >> you know what i can do is, i don't know about doing all that, but i can tell you, whatever you do drives an increase in employment, and increase in investment in america and an increase in production in this coun

>> we heard a little while ago, we heard tom coburn make a comment about brauk -- barack obama trying to build a dependent state and he as an african-american relied on that to an extent when he was growing up. it's not that direct. it's not even about race it's about making barack obama seem like the other. it's about kenya and indonesia and it's about harvard and it's about the faculty lounge. chris: in the last campaign, barack obama saw race behind the way that republicans were handling the change he embodied. >> what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me. oh, he's not patriotic enough. he's got a funny name. he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills, you know. chris: for his part, john mccain made it a policy to discourage plays on obama's race. will that be true this time? this month, rick perry said this. >> one of the powerful reasons i'm running for the presidency of the united states is to make sure that every young man and woman who puts on the uniform of this country respects highly the president of the united states. chris: whether

our friend senator tom coburn put it best this morning. >> i think the politicians won and america lost, is what i think. it was great theater. in the long run, the country lost. >> i couldn't agree with the man more and we've been talking about the debt ceiling, of course, since april. on this show and pretty much every other show in the media. in fact, in many ways, forced to lead our show with these political pro wrestling shenanigans with the threat of a hostage crisis that could bring our country to the brink. we covered it every single day. i do, however, now want to take a moment and make a grove grover norquistesque pledge to you, my loyal viewers. i, dylan j. ratigan, pledge for the rest of the week to bring you something other than talk of the debt and political pro wrestling. as you can see, i even signed it, although that quite looks like a robo signing to me. we'll go with it. first, let us get through today. shall we? one last time. luke russert is camped out on capitol hill. will you sign the ratigan pledge, luke? >> reporter: oh, yes, yes. willfully, happily, yes, immedi

senator coburn and i put forward a plan that would save over $600 billion in medicare costs over the next decade, install the solvency by at least 30y years and reduce medicare's 75 unfunded liability by $10 trillion. now i know our plan containsnd some strong medicine, but that's what it will take to keep medicare live, and we believe to our plan administers that the senator coburn and i are goingnt to forhaward our proposalt in legislative form to the joint select committee for theirs essl consideration, and we hope theyt will include parts of it in social their recommended legislation. i also believe it is essentialis for the joint committee to act to bolster the solvency of the social security. the socl many argue that social security is not contributing to the deficit because it has a positive balance in the social security trust fund.cial surity but what is in that trust fundrm collects its notes to the united states government has given to s the social security trust fund for time that we borrow from it. and of course we are bound to bs pay that moneyis back. pay the fact is t

so-called gang of six which had a plan, a republican on your side, conservative from oklahoma, tom coburnn an op-ed. he doesn't think much of the supercommittee. supporters think the real reform will come when they reduce the deficit, but the enforcement mechanism across-the-board cuts to defense and nondefense programs will never work, congress will easily evade the caps. it sounds to me like maybe senator coburn wants to be on the committee. >> well, there's always skepticism. i think this is the most important thing we could have established to give us a real chance of results. we haven't been able to get results with the current way we've been operating so we're going to try to go at it a different way. i won't declare the committee a failure before it meets. >> in your floor speech before the senate final passage, you turned to some of the new members and the tea party members, and you might not think so, but you won here by changing the debate in washington, getting washington on a path to a debt reduction path. and i want you to listen to one of your members, she clearly disagrees.

would you be comfortable with that, senators crapo, coburn and chambliss? >> i can't figure out whether it would be doing somebody a favor or not to appoint them to this committee. there will be a lot of attention and power on the committee. i don't know who senator mcconnell is going to appoint. i can guarantee you one thing. he's not going to appoint anybody who will vote for tax increases on this committee. i know that -- >> you just eliminated the three -- you eliminated the three gang of sixers. >> well, i don't know how senator mcconnell will make his final choice, but i'm confident, as between who senator mctonl will appoint and the house rejecting tax increases that those really will not be part of the solution. we can't keep on doing what we're doing now and have been doing a long time, which is spending money we don't have. so we're going to have to cut. i know it is painful and it runs against the grain for a lost people who see government as a means to hand out more goodies. but we simply have to change our ways or else we're looking at economic

a couple of things about poison pills and what the coburn language is and is not. the coburn language, people might say there must have been this release spirited debate in the senate that broke down by party lines and everybody was yelling. it passed the united states senate by voice vote. if this was such a big deal, surely democrats in the senate would have approved final passage of the bill because it contained that language. 87 senators, and i do not have the roll call, but you can't figure out who they are. when you get 87 senators in this town to do anything, it is an accomplishment. i assume in that 87 are a number of members of the democratic party. that language, to be clear, indicates that for those airports that are within 90 miles of a hub airport, rather than the american taxpayer subsidized and the cost of the ticket and paying the airlines to transport those people, we are going to ask those folks to get in their car and drive less than 90 miles to a hub airport. that is what this fight is about. there have been a lot of allegations that this is som

coburn has great ideas. he's been on the show several times.ident or governor of a group of 20 or 30, you have 70 or 80 in congress, what do you do to persuade boehner to bring the other republicans? >> before you answer that question, you don't start with a premise. you don't start with a premise that you isolate anybody. >> joe is right. >> you don't say i'm going to isolate the tea partiers. you say this is where china is. this is where we are. >> if they were stubborn -- >> every day is a new day. >> i understand. coburn had the right message. if you are tea partiers, what do you say? >> first of all, i do it for joe and harold. nobody talked to these guys. the deficit is important. we are getting the daylights kicked out of us. we can do both. say you are a tea partier. you don't believe 38% of u.s. corporations shouldn't pay no tax do you? of course you don't. let's get this done. >> they don't. pat buchanan, this is what a lot of people in the media missed. the tea partiers, a lot of them, i know this because in '94 we were saying a lot

lower the corporate rate to 26 and 36, but the point is, we have a situation which is absurd, tom coburnoll subsidies out of the tax expenditure list that's $6 billion to support a product which goes into human and animal beings and shouldn't go to-to-your gas tank, get rid of it, knocked it out. and grover norquist and his happy band of zany warriors say that that is a tax increase f that's tax increase and coburn said for you to call that a tax rate increase is ludicrous. i call it deception. >> senator, let me jump in because you mentioned grover norquist, do you think he has too much influence on the republican party? >> are you kidding? he got 95% of them both parties to sign up -- pathway that they would never raise tax under any situation. good grief, anyone that would sign.any kind of pledge before you get there to look at the evidence, examine things, do your research, listen to the debate is a robot. you can't do that and boy now, he holds them to the fire. and if he is -- if he is the most powerful person in america, he may well be now, then he should run for president. >> hmm

security of sites in libya known to contain stockpiles of chemical weapons including uranium dust james coburn from the center for research on globalization says it is not clear which side can be trusted to deal with it perhaps it presupposes the idea that the stockpiles are unsafe in the hands of the rebel forces and would be safer in the hands of the nato forces whereas the people who have so far been involved in siege in tripoli and killing trickle east civilians in tripoli have been benito side so i think the question is really who are the people to be concerned about having access to those weapons i would imagine that that if there was any danger to be had it would be obviously in the proliferation of those weapons as in early july kind of it was quoted as saying that he would be willing to strike at europe if if tripoli was was attacked so i guess that is a possibility it seems to be on the table but but certainly it's unclear to me whether it's the the weapons would be safer in the hands of the gadhafi forces or the terrorists i think ultimately perhaps getting rid of these types of wea

old general and the general welfare and that's exactly what the constitution says and you know tom coburn i mean has also said and as a member of a cheri committee and as a man who's taken that oath of office you really should know what's in the constitution i think when you have people who pick and choose which parts of the constitution they like and twist and manipulate it that's a really dangerous thing to have a government right in there basically trying to not just pick and choose but even interpret what it means it's really quite right on target thanks so much for being with us great to have with us. we will see you really have to question the majority more rowdy of a political party that will turn its back on children and the elderly starving to make sure that their billionaire campaign contributors don't get if they are sick let's hope the republican party steps back from the edge of humanity's. biggie science is my opportunity to share with you some of the week's most people will rain interesting or weird science news journal science reporting this week those super thin electroni

ejaculatory coburn the situation here on the ground is very complicated because economy has been badly affected things the structure has been dramatically it has been damaged actually following six months of fighting well the rebels are now facing many many problems and politically it's also quite unclear what is going to happen next the rebels leaders how for repeatedly been talking about elections and prosecution changes but there is a huge problem that you just mentioned but in leave is structures of these countries from two at least two thousand tribes and the one who wants to control who wants to can what one who wants to rule this country has to have good relations and good dialogue with all of them while the right among them still those who support it well we can expect that that will be quite challenging for the rebels for their leaders to communicate with these people of course the rebels are now facing financial problems and been constantly claiming that they need money and these money. needed for basic actually services like electricity for instance and of course for politic

another report produced by the senate permanent investigations committee under senators levin and coburn who are recently that lays out in great detail exactly how the process of deregulation the encouraging it wildly leveraged speculation the lack of regulatory authority agreements between wall street and the government that no bankers would be prosecuted it's a sorie story and it really goes back to nineteen ninety nine when the gramm leach wifely act in the united states repealed glass steagall and created this speculation the engine too big to fail banks that are right now once again teetering on the edge of complete disintegration there's a bill in the united states house of representatives h.r. fourteen eighty nine that would simply reinstate plastique will and other members of congress are saying that in addition to that we should repeal this bill nonsense and go back to the kind of emergency measures that franklin roosevelt talking one nine hundred thirty three when he first came into office without some radical change in policy like that. this system this transatlantic banking s