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coburn: mr. president? i'd ask that the pending amendment be set are aside and coburn amendment 1003 be called up. the presiding officer: is there 0,? -- is there objection? objection is heard. burning bun mr. coburn: i am gok about this amendment. let me set the stage for this. we are going to have somewhere between a $500 billion and $00 billion deficit. we have got $17.5 trillion worth of debt today. what this amendment does is it prohibits people who are tax evaders from receiving government assistance including grants, contracts, loans, and tax credits provided in the farm bill, with the exception of snap. so we're still going to take care of food provision, even if they refuse to pay their taxes. we're still going to provide them food. but we're not going to allow, with this amendment, them to take advantage of other programs within the farm or any other area that's associated with direct grants, associated with the ag bill. the most critical issues facing our country today -- and everybody

we will talk to tom coburn about that.l: budget cuts hitting america's wounded warriors b walter reed plans to furlough thousands of civilian workers this summer. it's the first stop for every soldier wounded in overseas combat. quality of care for veterans will not be effected. this is part of the spending cuts known as sequester. martha: one democrat has called the healthcare law a train wreck. a new government report warns that it could be a very bumpy ride once all of this kicks 4 in. new details on that. bill: was the crash of a flight really an accident? some filmmakers say they have proof it was something else entirely. we will tell you what they claim today. martha: the nsa chief telling congress that the recent leaks have done irreputable damage to our national security. are we less safe at home now? michael chertoff joins us next. >> we are not going to know for many months whether these leaks in fact have caused us to lose these capabilities, but if they do have that effect, there is no doubt that they will caus

republican senator from oklahoma, tom coburn. republican congressman from michigan, the chair of the intelligence committee, mike rogers. and the democratic congresswoman from california, loretta sanchez. welcome to all of you. i want to go through some of the hot topics on capitol hill and move through some of these things. but i've got to start here with this breaking news. let me go with you, chairman rogers. reaction to what you've heard and to the developments this morning. >> well, it's concerning. obviously, what appears to be as of today that he is flying -- will catch another flight from moscow, many believe to cuba. we know there is air traffic from moscow to cuba, then on to venezuela. and when you look at it, ef ove one of those nations is hostile to the united states. if he could go to north korea and iran he could round out his government oppression tour by snowden. so you think about what he says he wants and what his actions are, it defies logic. he has taken information that does not belong to him, it belongs to

i think coburn is inconsistent. he is be against all subides. . and they should help them. cornell west. what about thedemocrats. they blame sequester and tey ended up cutting the assistance and we are spending monowineries. >> you can raise the level of pain and that's what you see happening here and it is priorities and in the military wenderstood our task and purpose and priorities and it calls in to question. what is the mission of the u.s. department of agriculture? we saw the farm bill get voted down in the house of representative becau it is now 80 percent. you know supplemtal nutrition program anwe have this type of spending. the social safety net is out there for a purpose and we don't want it to be peoe bei dependent on it. >> is john drunk or right when he said cut all subsidies. >> ithk jnathon can be both drunk and rightt the same time. >> i said one glass. >> i like i best when he's drunk though. in and case, this is what i previous said. it is the agency of the department of agriculture totally out of the conol and a lot of this is unnessary. you can cut all

coburn. i want to back up a little bit. we have been talking about what we can do in the legislative branch and what you can do at cms and what we can do in law enforcement community. we have not talked about the roles of parents in this and parents are family members. talk a little bit about that. there are some communities doing a good job with federal involvement -- family involvement -- does anybody know? it cannot be just the government. when it's all hands on deck, we need all hands including parents. >> when we did the work and anti-psychotic drugs, we recommended that families need to be more involved especially when beneficiaries are in nursing homes and not necessarily aware of everything being prescribed on their behalf. we very much made the point that this was something that everybody needed to contribute in terms of involvement. >> others? how many of your parents? ok, everybody. you can speak, you can put on your parent at if you want. >> from the medicare perspective, medicare beneficiaries take many drugs a

i think coburn has beenprio inconsistent here. he should be against all subsidies.ple want to help any industry or any individual, they should help them.ub government is not a charity. >> that would be the extreme. colonel west, what about it? the democrats blame sequester and talked about cutting this, cutting that. they ended up cutting assistance. meanwhile we're spending money on wineries. >> that's the whole point. you could try to raise the level of pain and i think that's whate you see happening here. but it is about priorities. in the military, we understood our task and our purpose and o priorities, and it just calls into question what really is the mission of the united states department of agriculture and what are they really doing? we just saw the farm bill get voted down up there in the house of representatives because this farm bill, quote, unquote, has now become 80% supplemental nutrition assistance program, but yet we still have this typep of spending. so the social safety net is out there for a purpose.ng but we don't want it to become a hammock. t

coburn talks about the trigger. look, let's face it. for many on the other side, the number one priority is securing the border. for many on our side, the number one priority is achieving a path to citizenship. the amendment proposed -- the bill proposed by the gang of eight we believe did both, but certainly there were many on the other side who thought that the amount we were putting into the border security wasn't enough, wasn't adequate, so we're willing to augment that in the corker-hoeven amendment which i'm going to talk about in a minute. but certainly what we don't want to do is choose one in place of the other, and the problem with the 90% which senator cornyn proposed was that under many different types of status quos and circumstances, an act of god, an administration that was decidedly against a path to citizenship and counted things differently or held up the count, you could envision no path to citizenship. that was out of the question for us. and so what we tried to do is say you can have both, and we also said we're goi

conoco phillips and koch industries unlike congressman burton signed congressman smith and senator coburn to have it officially asked president obama to apologize for funding climate change research but there's still plenty it's for those demands to come in the meantime i'm prepared to accept a few apologies of my own i'm prepared to accept an apology from big oil companies like exxon mobil and koch industries that are actively buying off our politicians and funding phony science and misinformation campaigns and i'm prepared to accept an apology from lawmakers like congressman britain's dean side and smith and senator coburn who are taking thousands of dollars in donations in turn for turning a blind eye to one of the biggest threats that our planet has ever faced and along with those apologies these guys should have the common decency at least to wear the logos of the corporations that own them the way that nascar drivers do and that's the way it is tonight wednesday june twelfth two thousand and thirteen and if you have a question or comment send us your video questions or tomorrow's yo

. >> tom coburn outlined four he says since his sec ster the agriculture department has grbln 45,000rginia bloody mary mix company and helps thousands more to help vineyards across the country. he asked him to explain why he threatened to cut off funding for food for more than 500,000 needy men and women as part of the sequestration but had no problem funding asian chef competition march 26th. spending social media for pickles marketing of pizza and ice cream and researching fish food also made coburn's list and also takes issue with subsidizing island homes in martha's vineyard saying this is not the type of community that would need public asinsistance would be negatively impacted by sequestration. a two-bedroom condo listed as 260,000 dollars. it goes on not in terms of agricultural spending it is one of a dozen letters he fired off that he thinks are wasting tax payer money. as for what the agencies have to say foxnews.com made three calls for comment yesterday but none of the calls were returned. >>> social media for pickles. >> still ahead new details in the murder investigatio

coburn on the south, one of the great deficit hawks and wease warriors up there. -- tom coburn found this out, one of the great deficit hawks and waste warriors up there, he found $7 billion that could be cut from the defense budget. they handed in $1.8 billion for a study to develop world of beef jerky. i'm not sure how that is keeping the russians or others at bay. they had $5 billion in there to study a collection of fish. i caught -- i called it a bunch of goldfish, and they were actually golden fish. there's a lot of money being wasted in a $4 trillion budget. $3 billion spent to study monkeys on math onmeth. meth.nyone -- monkeys on does anyone think that they are not just as crazy as people crazymeth? on meth?ple if you do a 1% sequester across the entire budget, the budget balances within five or six years. connie mack came up with this idea and a lot of people have endorsed it. cut 1%. we have a trillion dollar budget and you cut 1%? the reason is you cut 1% from a baseline of zero. everything they talk about in washington is a lie. the budget is going up. baseline is about

this year, coburn says his constituents were targeted because they gave money to mitt romney campaignichele bachmann says to fox news the irs uses your political ideology to deny you doctor's appointments. the newspaper owner strip club owner says he was targeted by the irs not because of anything else about him but because he likes the tea party. and a st. louis tv reporter says the irs started hammering him after he challenged president obama's economic policies in an interview. that reporter later got fired and then admitted his, quote, issues with the irs preceded that interview by several years. as a taxpayer, that guy or anybody is free to tell whatever story you like about the irs, unless you give the irs permission to, the irs by law cannot respond. a neat trick, right? today and capitol hill, congress asked the new acting irs commissioner about an anti-abortion group, which says they had to not protest planned parenthood. >> that is completely unacceptable. do you agree with that? >> let me start saying i think your question enters into a particular taxpayer, therefore restri

coburn and myself. in the cigarette will we can do. i appreciate what you are trying to do on your own authority. but what we can do to enhance your authority to facilitate what you are trying to do. i do not want to be here six years from now and say, we still have thousands of surplus properties that we should sell. i won us to have dealt with this issue in a smart way. thank you. have dealt with this issue in a smart way. >> thank you, mr. tangherlini, for being here. thank your family as well. i want to ask about the recent june i.g. report, that senator coburn referenced in his opening statement that is troubling. the conclusion that the management improperly intervened an -- award extension of of a contract and resulted in the contract being inflated. if you look at it, to have the gsa contacting officers tell that theythe oig feared for their jobs because they were trying to protect taxpayer interests and companies were able to go above their head and gets a more favorable officer to change a decision that was in the best intere

coburn sent a letter last year to then treasury secretary tim geithner about conference spending. treasury official responded that the department had spent less than $500,000 now coburn wants an explanation from current treasury secretary jack lou. >> with the revelation of the -- inspector general spent at the same time. rides to two conclusions. one they are incompetent and can't manage what they are doing and don't know what's going on, which is possible and probable or they are deceitful. >> tomorrow, one of the stars or the star trek spoof video created by irs employees will testify on capitol hill. ferris fink played mr. spock. lawmakers want to talk to him and other witnesses about the culture of spending at the, an agency growing in power. >> when you consider their role in implementing the affordable care act, they ought to be terrified. so what congress ought to be doing is figuring out a way to replace the irs with something that is respected and has the confidence of the american people and let the prosecutors figure out who goes to jail. >> gowdy, a former federal pro

we'll discuss that with david axelrod, senator coburn, eugene robinson and ed rendell.opening statements in the trial of george zimmerman. the defense begins with a knock-knock joke. we'll show you how that played out. and bring you up to speed in the latest arguments. that was fascinating. that absolutely fell flat. i have never seen a more awkward moment in court in recent history. and finally, a documentary on how to make money selling drugs. actor and producer adrian grenier joins us on the set to preview his new set. much more on "morning joe". back to you. >> we'll see you in a few minutes. still ahead, your best and most creative tweets on what perk would make you like your job. we'll be right back. [ shapiro ] at legalzoom, you can take care of virtually all your important legal matters in just minutes. protect your family... and launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. little things anyone can do. it steals your memories. your independence. ensures support, a breakthrough. and sooner than you'd like. sooner than you'd think. you die fro

he is senator tom coburn. i mention him because he is a republican and i am democrat, he is a good friend but we do not agree on everything. he has a big role in this issue given his senior status on the second homeland security committee. he has not heard about this. tom coburn was very positive. of course i would relate the good news story. but this is a guy you may not think would necessarily think that the department of homeland security should be ground zero on parts of this issue. he said -- and i have a note here. the process used to craft the executive order should be praised. this was inclusive and the government listened. he also said he was impressed by the staff -- some of whom are in the room, in this audience looking up at us, that he met with and that he will work for a bipartisan solution for legislation. to enable this process. i think this means a lot, so i wanted to be sure that everyone heard this. everyone in the room should know what the stakes are. you will hear more in the panels that f

coburn talked about. and what i -- i opened this question to any of you who feel competent to answer it -- what part of the particular focuses on this population that is clearly vulnerable, they trust their doctors, want to get better. some of them have long term illnesses and some cases it's easier to try to medicate your way out of the illnesses than to talk with the family and get to the heart of what is going on: are there relationships between, for example, assisted care facilities nursing homes that are particularly problematic in this area that lead to this kind of abuse? >> i don't know i can directly answer the question, but with regards to the vulnerable population, the elderly being in nursing homes and some of these drugs being very powerful, we did do a random review of antipsychotic drugs used in the nursing home setting, and found that 88% of them were prescribed against the black box warning, clearly raising health concerns, and based on the medical record review we found 51% of the claims

so even conservative senators like tom coburn said, what is that? why is it a tax increase to close a loophole or and attacks favor for ethanol, for instance? it basically put a choke hold on the whole process, particularly in 2011. it also gave the lie to the idea the republicans stand for deficit-reduction, for lifting the burden of debt from our children. one of the key moments in the campaign came from a fox news debate that many of you saw where a fox and her asked all of the republican candidates who were -- newscast asked all of republican candidates or lined up during the primary, could you support a 10 to one ratio of spending cuts to tax increases? $10 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases? every republican on that stage said, no. in other words, it can to one ratio would have balanced the budget very quickly, but they could not accept it because it had any tax increases at all, even just taking very well the people back to the tax levels they paid during the clinton years, which was a very prosperous time for this country. they c

turning out to be even deeper and more dangerous than it was in iraq, so says war correspondent patrick coburn in the current london review of books. the fanned out impact of this. >> we're putting the united states now militarily into a war where our side has al-qaeda people, jihaddists on its side. the war there is being lost. we have no plans to win it, to end it, to get out. you're right, it's a sunni shiite war throughout the entire middle east. we're getting ourselves into a conflict. iran, russia has bala on one side and us, qatar and arabia on the other side. >> first the tonkin gulf was a made up incident. >> he thinks this was made up. >> i don't believe the sarin gas is made up. secondly, bush wasn't drawn into iraq. he actively sought it out. he wanted to overthrow the regime here and have a demonstration of american power in the middle east. this president doesn't really want to get involved. he's got one foot on the brake every step lang the way. >> that's the problem -- along the way. >> that's the problem. >> the idea in this increased military aid is an attempt to balance the

. >> coming up on "morning joe," senator tom coburn will be here along with david axelrod, reverend al sharpton and actor adrian grenier here with his documentary "how to make money selling drugs". >> you can make money selling drugs if who knew. >> star of this show. coming up next the top -- >> my challenge to get adrian to smile. >> i'm going to brief you in the commercial about who he is. >> i'm good actually. >> you're watching "morning joe," brewed by starbucks. "i'm part of an american success story," "that starts with one of the world's most advanced distribution systems," "and one of the most efficient trucking networks," "with safe, experienced drivers." "we work directly with manufacturers," "eliminating costly markups," "and buy directly from local farmers in every region of the country." "when you see our low prices, remember the wheels turning behind the scenes, delivering for millions of americans, everyday. "dedication: that's the real walmart" . >> sorry. i've got problems today. >> time for us to take a look at the morning papers. mika, what's in the "usa today." >> p

coburn? get you on the record a little firmer. cms supports the modification of part d program to establish a lock in? >> what i can say is that we but no official position, i believe it is time for congress to consider this change. >> semesters not have a position? it is time for the congress to consider it. it is not part of the president's 2014 budget mission, but advocate is time for congress to make the change. >> with your recommendation back up the change -- the chain at cms that would go along with congress writing the bill that would do that? >> yes, we are happy to support the committee. >> would cms go back up the lifting ofupport a the rules so insurers can protect patients and their long- term well-being by allowing them to transfer data on drug seeking behavior patients? principles that cms believes is we have to have greater data sharing to spot outliers, beneficiaries, pharmacies, and physicians. >> if i wrote a bill that would allow a little hole for the insurance industry that are managing this to share the data

tom coburn on the south, one of the great deficit hawks and wease warriors up there. -- tom coburn found this out, one of the great deficit hawks and waste warriors up there, he found $7 billion that could be cut from the defense budget. they handed in $1.8 billion for a study to develop world of beef jerky. i'm not sure how that is keeping the russians or others at bay. they had $5 billion in there to study a collection of fish. i caught -- i called it a bunch of goldfish, and they were actually golden fish. there's a lot of money being wasted in a $4 trillion budget. one more, $3 billion spent to study monkeys on math onmeth. does anyone -- monkeys on meth. does anyone think that they are not just as crazy as people crazymeth? -- as people on meth? if you do a 1% sequester across the entire budget, the budget balances within five or six years. connie mack came up with this idea and a lot of people have endorsed it. cut 1%. we have a trillion dollar budget and you cut 1%? the reason is you cut 1% from a baseline of zero. everything they talk about in washington is a lie. the budget is g

the secretary has heard about this and tom coburn was very positive and to the ground zero. and he said the process should be phrased he also said he is impressed by the d.a.'s just half will mckee write-up at us and he would work for bipartisan legislation. that message means a lot. so i want to make sure ready heard it. everybody should know what the stakes are. and like the israel palestinians we know what the end needs to be but we don't know how to get there. as secretary for the obama administration. she will deliver the keynote remarks followed by a panel discussion, led by the npr reporter who is supporting us on this subject i find a stunningly impressive. on our panel is the former d.a. just secretary former attorney-general to i found to be an exemplary partner and succeeded both of our tenure and our job but michael's first question was what is the right thing to do. not which party? and also co-director and we also have been head of security at general electric. this conversation follows a lunch that we had with the private sector representatives and i urge ever

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i wrote letters i would say the senator from tennessee and senator coburn and myself we wrote a lettereral to the department wrote a letter to the attorney general and all members all republican members of the finance committee wrote a letter to secretary sebelius what's going on here and do it for an outside entity run by the person who helped to effect wait obama care when she was in the white house. >> is the obama administration in a fight to get to finance oba obama care the house republicans don't want obama care at all. the administration doesn't have enough money to fund it that's why they have gone outside to try to fund it but they are seeking some of the funds from groups they oversee who might have a reason to give money. is that the situation do you think? >> hhs has a huge amount of money. the fact of the matter is they are not short of money in my opinion. obama care is such a disastrous bill they are eating up all of the money they have. they are trying to put the money in others who over view. that may be a violation of anti deficiency act as well. these are real serio

>>enator tom coburn and rob portman said the letter to the secretary of the veterans affairs a ministrationweek. bacally they are essentially sayi 180 workers are working full time for unions, not military veterans. emma was striking is the list of whaa these workers are doing. setors blasting the viejo saying this is troubling. the comppomise, and data from -- i undoubtly negatively impacts. v8 nurses, medical sffers, psychologists, therapists, security guards who were supposed to be protecting buildings. doing full-timenion work. this is based on government affirmation and documents. and what the senators want to know is, what exactly ar they doing in terms of union work. we know thathis bylaw federal workers are not allowed to strike. by law the pay and benefits are set. what are they doing essentially in terms ofrievances and disciplinary matters? at that time when the viejo is also saying that the unemployment rate for 18 to 24 year-old military veterans is higher than the national average. we are also seeing rapid homelessness among military veterans gerri: that is a great point. to p

now coburn is asking questions to jack lu. >> they are incompetent what they are doing or they are deceitfulon't know which it is. i have asked the inspector general to look into this. i also set secretary lu a letter saying explain this. >> reporter: tomorrow the house oversight committee will focus on the irs spend nearly $50 million on conferences from 2010 through 2012. >> they have been around since 1862. you would think in that amount of time, in 2010 when americans are suffering you don't spend $3500 a night on the presidential suite and you don't send 30 something people to scout a hotel? >> as they are trying to determine who authorizes the targeted of conservative groups seeking tax exempt status, a federal prosecutor says much of the work is done behind closed doors. >> it gets the public information they wanted to hear. the real meat and potatoes of investigation is done off camera by attorneys asking questions under oath. >> a day after a heated hearing, lawmakers need to be forward looking. >> the real question is how you fix this. if it is going to continue to happen, if you d

now coburn is demanding answers. >> it leads to one of two conclusions. one, they're totally incompetent in terms of magging what they're doing. or they're deceitful and quite frankly, i don't know which it is. i've asked the inspector general to look into this. and i've always sent secretary lew a letter, saying, explain this. >> reporter: trey gowdy, who is on the house oversight committee, tells me it is important to do these hearings to get the public information but a lot of meat and potatoes of investigations are done behind closed doors underoath. the third of three irs hearings on capitol hill is less than 30 minutes away, bill. bill: you wonder what is an acceptable answer in this. you continue to wonder. you don't come up with an answer that is appropriate. we're watching the hearing. mike emanuel live on the hill. martha has more. martha: there are just layers to this irs story because this hearing happens while the irs is still of course under intense scrutiny for the targeting of conservative groups. it started some three years ago, early in

oklahoma republican senator tom coburn warrants to know and called for right now an inspector general to conduct an independent probe. senator, good to have you. answers on any of the above? >> not yet. i have no doubt in my mind they have broken u.s. code by augmenting their appropriations. i have had several large insurance executives tell me they were asked to contribute to this. so, we're just beginning on this, but if it's not illegal, it should be. and for sure it is unethical. and it is definitely a conflict of interest to extort money from the people you regulate. >> neil: i was wondering, what about the companies that chose not to? are they pigeon holed or -- do they have a big scarlet letter on them? we asked you to contribute and you didn't. >> this is a lashing group of people, from pharmaceutical makers-insurance companies to chain pharmacies packaging companies they've hit them all up and 31 u.s. code 1301a says you can't do that, and so the -- i guess disconcerting thing, neil, is here we are outside the law, or at least appearance of being outside the law, in another a

. >> something you wrote about senator tom coburn, wants bite te te -- belt tightening.hat is that in. >> i don't know if you have ever gotten your haircut at the russell senate hair care area but you can get cheap services, alex. get your nails down, you can get haircuts starting at $20. some folks are saying that's too low. this program loses at least $300,000 every year. taxpayers are subsidizing some costs. there has been movement to cut costs. people have taken buy-out whose are hairdressers there. a lot of areas on capitol hill, there's life improvement classes for staffers. tom coburn says, guys, if rest of the country's pinching pennies, we should be looking at cuts on capitol hill. >> okay. that's an interesting story you've got there. lauren fox, thank you so much. perry bacon jr., can you hear me? i guess he's out of it. what are you going to do. >>> with the trial of george zimmerman day as way a 911 call at the shooting is at the heart of the legal tug-of-war. how key is it? ale announcer ] citi is over 200 years old. in that time there've been some good day

. >> earlier this week, senator coburn wrote an op-ed where he talked about, among other things, taxform. he said the best thing the president could do to help his administration would be to give the house ways and means committee an offer they cannot ignore. what can the president do to make this happen? dohe doing what he needs to to help move this at this point in time? lookingnk he wisely is at tax reform the same ways he has approached immigration -- that is, carefully. in this climate, it might not be wise to be too upfront too soon to early. -- too early. it may cause a bit of a storm, but he is very involved. i have met with them on tax reform. i meet frequently with his chief of staff, who, by the way, i find is very good. he is going out of his way coming up to the hill talking to members in the house and senate and engaging congress on lots of different issues. the president clearly cares about a fiscal solution, clearly cares -- does care about tax reform. in the context of tax reform. generated in the context of tax reform. there will have to be some revenue somewhere, a

coburn: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from oklahoma. mr. coburn: reserving the right to object, and i take the intent of my colleague that he wants to try to solve this problem. and as he knows, several of us have another proposal. what i would suggest is that we compromise on the president's proposal. it's a combination. it's a hybrid. the president is trying to address this. what i would propose is rather than us have dueling unanimous consents and playing the political game, what we really need to do is solve the problem. and what i would put forward to the senator that i would be happy to work with him to try to bring the president's proposal to the senate, which does fix this permanently, which does get people -- it fixes it for all the loans, not just for 40% of the loans. and it gives people certainty. if my colleague didn't see today, the c.p.o.'s accounting, there is no savings in this. there is a cost. no matter whose program it is, accurate accounting, which should give us all pause to try to fix this thing in the long term. i wo