coburn was looking for barney. the baltimore papers, such as they were, they were making a big thing about barney's fleet sailing to fight the british. bestwere the british's intelligence source. they kind of miss each other packsthey got to the pack river. on the fleet at the first time. it was an inconclusive fight. he was able to get past the british and into saint leonard's creek where the british blockaded him. he stuck in that he is stuck in leonard's creek. what to do? you have the marines. they have small boat operations. they can go anywhere. he knew it. he needed ground troops. he needed to protect his flotilla. he sent word to what you and time, the madison administration obliged. 36th infantry, u.s. regulars, under one admiral thomas carberry. they sent another infantry, all recruits, too. they sent out the militia -- the militia said no thank you. the militia gave so much information to the british about what barney was doing, he sent washington saying, tell the governor of maryland to tell your militi

coburn was looking for barney. was looking -- barney was looking for coburn. they missed each other. at the mouth of the patuxent river there is say at leonard's creek. there are several smaller boats that took on barney's fleet. it was an inconclusive fight. barney got past the british into saint leonard's creek. the british immediately blockaded him. he is stuck in saint leonard's creek, what to do. you have the royal marines who are adept at small boat operations and can go anywhere. barney knew it. he needed ground forces to protect his flotilla. he sent word to washington. the madison administration obliged. they sent the 36th infantry. u.s. regulars, one for battalion. raw recruits. the sent the 38th infantry, heart of one infantry. they called out the militia. the militia said no thank you. they gave so much information to the british about what barney was doing at his anchorage, he --t letters to will as letters to washington specifically saying, tell the militia to go home. they are not helping, they are hurting. underited states marines captain samue

i don't think to thisday we've adequately corrected the deficiencies that doctor coburn found . just last month inspector general ross also released reports that had 333 recommendations for reform to the grant programs at fema. however we only found for permanent changes that had been made to fema over the time in which these recommendations had come forward. despite recommendations for reform over a nearly 5 year period, little in the way of reform appears to have occurred. we had a hearing on this in 2013 in which we went through some of the various forms of waste that were occurring at fema. but even since that hearing, we still continue to have problems. $280,000 was recently spent for a bearcat armored vehicle in dover. last time we were around, we complained of the $600,000 bearcat armored vehicle 14. i guess new hampshire is ready for the next invasion. we also found recently or the inspectors found $1.7 million for unused radios and generators and 174,004 unused radios in dc. this is since we last met to talk about waste. every dollar wasted makes a difference to taxpaye

coburn. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. alexander: mr. president, in the ne "the new york times" e issue, one oncologist writes, "for patients for whom the usual treatments fail to work, oncologists must use their knowledge, wit, and imagination to devise individualized therapies. increasingly, we are approaching each patient as a unique problem to solve. toxic, indiscriminate cell-killing drugs have given way to nimbler, finer-fingered molecules that can activate or deactivate complex pathways in cells, cut off growth factors, accelerate or decelerate the immune response, or choke the supply of nutrients and oxygen. more and moshings we must come up with ways to use drugs as precision tools to jam cogs and turn off selective switches in particular cancer cells, trained to follow rules, oncologists are now being asked to reinvent them." the article continues, "cancer and its treatment, once seemed simpler a breakthrough came in the 2000's, soon after the human genome project when scientists learned to sequence the genomes of cancer cells.

. >> dude that coburn her. don't do that either. >> he tosses it back inside her car. there's a reason he feels so passionate. . >> it doesn't happen often but at times people like her throw their cigarettes out. >> this hits close to home. >> there was a motorcycle rider in the back. she threw her cigarette out. it was still lit. it fell into his jacket. it started burning his chest. he started freaking out, lost control of his bike, crashed and died. >> wait, de. i'm sorry wasn't any better than what the lady did to begin with. >> two wrongs don't make a right. >> hopefully that cigarette was out when he tossed it back in her car. >>> moving over to australia, this has caused quite the buzz on social media. yes, that person is actually towing a wood burning oven. it's not the safest thing to do. one man said he called the police department himself and they said that it's legal. again, it's not the best of ideas. >>> things are looking sharp on this bus because this woman was shot through the arm. >> watch out. >> why this arrow mishap was purely a case of wrong place

the rumored names to play this role have been bill sasse, mitt romney, tom coburn of oklahoma. but people close to those candidates and those potential candidates themselves have all been shooting down this talk for months now. our new nbc news/surveymonkey weekly tracking poll shows donald trump within two points of hillary clinton nationally. 47% to 45% lead for hillary clinton. that's a slight gain for donald trump from last week. trump tweeting out this morning, so many great things happening. new poll numbers looking good. news conference at 11:00 a.m. today. trump tower. and trump tower is where we find nbc's hallie jackson ahead of that press conference today. in brooklyn, new york, kristen welker is outside clinton campaign headquarters. hallie jackson, let's start with you outside trump tower. trump promoting this 11:00 press conference. he's talking about something very specific here. this is the money he says he's raised for veterans organizations. this takes us back to the days before the iowa caucuses. trump skipping a debate saying he was doing it to raise the mon

some other surprising names, senator coburn, the former oklahoma senator. outrageeen having some and military figures. bill kristol. there is been some celebrities have had some personal overtures like mark cuban, the owner of the dallas mavericks. host: mark cuban is said that he is not going to run. guest: he did. let me go back to a speaker reince said last week after the meeting that took race -- place saying that it was a cordial meeting, but he is not ready to endorse them. >> the process of unifying the republican party take some time. there are people who are for donald trump who referred ted cruz, with the john kasich, who are for marco rubio, and everybody is. it is very important that we fake unifying we don't pretend unification, that it truly and actually unify so that we are. in the fall. i don't want us to have a fake unification process here. i want to make sure that we really truly underand each other, that we are committed to the conservative principles that make the republican party that built this country. again, i'm very encouraged. i h

tried to get tom coburn of oklahoma. and he said no. and ted cruz, and the interesting development, conservatives that were not crazy about mitt romney want him. and he's the only person that could step up as a third party challenger and have a chance what so ever in the race. >> one of the interesting side notes to the polls. unfavorability rating of the candidates. the nbc wall street journal poll, donald trump 29 percent. 34 percent for hillary clinton. their unfavorables. trump shows 58 percent. and hillary clinton 54 percent. a couple of unpopular people. >> it is truly unprecedented and raises questions about the elections going forward. it is an election like being we have never seen before. what does it mean as bernie sanders said over the week woke, choosing between the lesser of two evils. sanders saids that in the context of not wanting to give up his race yet. it adds a huge element of unpredictability in the general election where the traditional rule book is thrown out of the window. for us and the press and candidates. >>

some of the names being tossed around are former senator tom coburn of oklahoma.r that big meeting thursday on capitol hill, trump now has the support of about 70 members of congress, though he's waiting on an endorsement from house speaker paul ryan. >> all right, very dramatic and interesting to be sure. thank you so much. >>> so when it comes to deciding on a presidential candidate, what issues define who voters support. does a controversial pass matter? here's more of my conversation with former republican presidential candidate herman cain, whose national radio audience is giving him some unique insights on what matters most to them this election cycle. >> the fact that there are news organizations out there like the "washington post" who already acknowledged they have an army of reporters doing opposition research on trump at this point, what does that tell you? >> it tells me that the "washington post" has admitted their liberal bias. that's what it says. why aren't they putting 20 reporters on hillary clinton? don't give me this line she's been in the publ

retired coburn of oklahoma and mitt romney, but all have said no, so far and never trump conservativesmpaign against trump and hillary clinton if she is the nominee there. it would miss some important ballot access deadlines this month in texas and north carolina to begin with. and any competitor campaign will cost a billion. that is not stopping bill crystal from continuing to push for a third party campaign. in the latest issue of the magazine. it is not too late to give republican voters who have not supported donald trump in the primaries an alternative. an independent republican candidate can help presprent the conflation of trump and conservative with trumpism. and a pole to independents and democrats and he or she could win. ballot deadlines could be successfully challenged in court. billionaire trump proved you may not need a billion to run. >> he spent peanuts on the primary and proved if you are a compelling candidate to get on tv and get your message out that's all you need to do. that is the old dynamic and media strategy of paid media advertising is not what it used to be.

. >> in that same vain bill chris stall has been talking to mitt romney, tim coburn about putting together a third party challenge. should journalists portray this as well a little desperate? >> i think it's an extreme long shot the way it looks down, the people interviewed none has showed any interest. >> nobody has raised their hand and say i will do it. >> i will do it. obviously you wouldn't do it unless you thought there was a real chance it might work or unless you had some other reason for wanting to be a presidential candidate with whatever attention you could get from it. i just think it's -- i don't know whether we ought to call it desperate, but anybody reporting it -- it should be clear from reading the facts what a long shot it is and i think basically that's true. >> we have this spade of recent polls, fox news poll, "new york times" poll showing donald trump in a hypothetical match up against hillary up 2 or 3 points, other polls showing hillary by a few. and so my question is the media geniuses all said donald trump are not going to win this nomination, are they now having

if a been sass or tom coburn or mitt romney -- >> you mentioned mitt romney. why is that? >> those three said they can't support donald trump. i would admire them if they stepped forward and said i'm going to run a positive campaign. we have two people running for president who should not be president and a majority of americans in both cases have unfavorable views of trump and hillary clinton. neither should be president. so let me offer an alternative. is it unusual? is it a long shot? i think this is such an exceptional year, it's worth trying. >> governor, wouldn't that just be turning it over to a democrat? >> absolutely it would be turning it over to hillary clinton and the people of our party have spoken and they have overwhelmingly voted for mr. trump. and for people wanting to put a third party in there is just going to fracture the party again. i've been a republican, bill, all my life and it's been a long life, a long, hard life by the way. you don't have to agree with a person 100% on everything but you talk about donald trump's ability to say things sometimes

. >> in that same vein, bill kristol has been talking eight bout mitt romney, tom coburn and others putsether a conservative third party challenge. should journalists pore ray this as desperate? >> it is extreme long shot. the people interviewed, no one has showed any interest. >> no one has raised their hand. >> no one is saying "i'll do it." and you would not do it unless you thought this was a chance it would work or you had another reason for wanting to be a presidential candidate with the attention. i don't know what we ought to call it desperate but anyone reporting it should be clear what a long shot it is. basically, that is true. >> now, we have the recent presidents of "new york times" and fox showing donald trump in a hypothetical with hillary clinton up two or three points and other presidents showing hillary clinton by a few so my question is, the media see that trump is not going to win do they now have to take trump more seriously after saying if he got the knox nation he would be clobbered? >> obviously. people did not expect what would happen after he got it locked up he

with prospects said to include mitt romney, oklahoma senator tom coburn, each approaching his 70th birthday and freshman senator ben sass of nebraska, turned 44. all have voiced reluctance. today romney bowed out entirely. >> most americans are tired of both parties, people have more power than they ever have to affect change. and on the other hand because of the rules writ bin the two parties want to hang on to their power. it's really almost too late. >> others bandied about include general james mad is, stanley crystal. ohio governor john kasich. donald trump's fellow billionaire mark cuban and if things don't go his way in cleveland, donald trump himself. >> they could try to hijack another party and get on the ballot but it's a suicide mission. for a country. what it means is that you're throwing down not just eight years of the white house. but potentially 100 years on the supreme court. >> even if the libertarians or the green party were willing to be hijacked, the idea of a ben sass usurping one of those party labels would conflict with the message that he and others have been sendi

>> ben sasse, tom coburn. they're still looking for other names. that's the problem with third party right now, who do you run? nobody seems to agree. >> nobody seems to agree but we appreciate your thoughts on this mother's day. all the best. >> thanks very much. liz? >> well, trump may have all but locked down the republican nomination, but the fight is still on on the democratic side. bernie sanders is still in the race, but hillary clinton holds a commanding delegate lead and is inching closer to securing the democratic nomination. so, now she's concentrating on her republican rival and those in the gop are having a hard time getting behind him. kristin fisher has all the latest. >> clinton is taking a break from the campaign trail but she sat down for a lengthy interview on one of the other sunday shows. she was asked about what she thought of donald trump locking up the nomination and she used it as an opportunity to highlight the divide between the republican party, specifically the fact the speaker of the house, paul ryan, is saying he's st

. >> and jeff coburn, do you believe it is a goldilocks scenario where we have the feds seemingly onr now, and then the eu about to buy some corporate debt starting next month, and great time for a lot of the corporate issuers. >> well, we reseeing the 10-year here, ber that, and lower for long, and talking a lot about the futures, and continuing to see it persist, and looking at 150, and that is the target lower, and in 20 h minutes we will have the 10-year action, and as you said, ber that, the feds funding with the elusive jobs number, and unless it is a 40%, and continue to hold longer, and buy the stocks, but they are mitigating the comments of donald trump to have a potential default or haircut, and they are going to ignore that and buy this again. >> yes, not priced in yet. jeff, thank you. and of course, back with the live show tomorrow, and in the meantime, check out futures@cnbc.com, and scott, an interesting auction coming up at the top of the hour. >> indeed, we will be tuned in. ber that, coming up. why pete najarian is buying a stock that is down 42% one week, and is it

the buzz on possible candidates include senator ben sass of nebraska, retired senator tom coburn of oklahoma the party eat 2012 nominee, mitt romney. they have also all said no like ted cruz. and a lot of folks say high hurdles to a third party candidacy with missing deadlines for getting on ballots and having to raise, what, a billion dollars perhaps to try and run? a very high bar. liz? liz: yeah, what about that? that's interesting. guess what, peter? stay tuned for this next segment, because we've to got the former nebraska governor on whether we would see another candidate throwing his or her hat into the ring. as we look at all of this and focus on tonight's primaries -- among them nebraska's -- welcome to former nebraska governor dave heineman. great to see you, sir, thank you so much for joining us. >> liz, it's great to be with you. let me just start by saying thank you for coming to nebraska -- liz: anytime. >> -- for warren buffett's annual meeting. i saw you out there, but you were too busy. liz: you could have thrown some chocolate at my head, i would have stopped, governor. [la

tom coburn comes up, ben sasse comes up. perhaps they come forward at convention.elissa: eric, i respect you're keeping hope alive. thanks for coming on. good to see you. >> take care. david: i like that guy. on other side of the aisle, states sounding alarm at potential violence at democratic convention in july. the democratic party formally complaining to dnc, that sanders supporters have penchant for actual violence quote. ashley pratte, julie roginsky fox news contributor. julie, a lot of democratic folks, pretty high up have been talking about the penchant for violence in their words. there was one democratic state senator in nevada said, she saw an older woman hit by a bottle by one of these bernie protesters. she said it was beyond the pale. there was no reason to do that. there are many other examples. does this go all the way to the convention? >> well listen, from what i've been hearing, threats against the nevada state chairwoman grandchildren from bernie sanders supporters. this is unconscionable behavior. i don't care what party you belong to or who yo

a lot of people have talk about mitt romney, ben sass from nebraska, tom coburn from oklahoma, but none of those people have said i'm in and that is the issue here. donald trump is right. you've already passed may 9th getting on the general election ballot in texas. that required 80,000 signatures. there are other ballot deadlines coming up in the next few days here in early june, and you start running out of road if you can't get on big states in the general election. >> now, from a practical point of view if this mystery person does appear and bill kristol does have somebody and they run as a third party candidate, what is stopping clinton and trump to getting 270 and getting the election in the house? what's the goal? do you know? >> that is the imaginary goal that you prevent hillary clinton from getting to 270, the electoral votes needed and you prevent donald trump from getting to that number and you get enough states and electoral votes to prevent that and then the election as you just mentioned gets thrown to the house of representatives and then republicans who are elected deci

coburn from oklahoma. i hope there's a viable option for conservatives in november. >> woodruff: what do you and other conservatives do who aren't able to support donald trump? if you support a third party, doesn't that automatically help the democratic nominee who's likely to be hillary clinton? >> the polls show hillary clinton is going to beat donald trump whether or not conservative. it's very likely she'll beat him whether or not conservatives support donald trump. a recent cnn poll found 84% of republican back donald trump. hillary clinton was leading by 13%, which means if 100% of republicans supported donald trump, he would still lose to hillary clinton. but at the end of the day, conservatives will have to say both candidates are disqualified. on the one hand, hillary clinton's supreme court nominee would trample the constitution, and donald trump unfit to be commander-in-chief. you have to take a stand, let the chips fall where they may. you can hope there is a third party principled candidate th

kasich, who recently suspended his presidential campaign and also interesting former senator tom coburne businessman, also reality show guy, can be brash and colorful. sound familiar? so interesting the thinking there in pulling mark cuban into this. >> mark cuban is part of the discussions. mr. cuban engaged with "the washington post" in a colorful way, in a candid way over e-mail. my colleague, phil rucker, and i were struck cuban did have overtures from gop leaders. a lot of these talks are hush-hush. but cuban is a billionaire outsider but even he recognizes logistically, financially it's difficult to do at this time. >> didn't he at one point even slam the republican party? he did that, it's on print, it's on record and now they're looking to him. >> they see him as someone who could connect with the populist rank in file base that has elevated donald trump. there's a sense that cuban not only because he has billions of dollars but because he has this public persona that's really combative in an election against secretary clinton perhaps and donald trump, that maybe that's the only

a lot of names are being circulated, ben sass and tom coburn are at the top.deadline for a write-in candidate or an independent candidate in texas came today though that arguably could be challenged but it's tough. there are multiple fronts moving at the same time, and it's not just the establishment republicans who are opposed to trump, a lot of activist conservatives who really oppose trump on social and fiscal issues. >> right. okay. ben sass, according to my reporting has said that he does not want to be considered. so -- >> right. >> if we took him out, mitt romney, would he want to be considered? >> i don't think mitt romney wants to be considered. i think mitt romney probably would play a role, but he doesn't want to be considered. he's already run twice, so finding -- finding a third party to run actually is the difficult challenge right now and a lot -- >> why do it because governor rick perry, he got into dustups with trump but he is now going to support him. bobby jindal, another presidential candidate says he's going to support trump, and then you

tom coburn global news 24 hours a day, powered by our 2400 journalists in 150 news bureaus around theld. more stories on the bloomberg. guy: thanks very much, tom. what happened on friday? what happened friday? retail sales numbers were good. what happened in the bond market was slightly curious. we will spend a lot of time talking of that fixed income, because we are lucky to have with us hsbc's stephen major, the global head of fixed income over there. good morning, stephen. explain this to me. this is the u.s. curve. buy tens, and, it has been flattening. this has been the chart for the last five years. you can see we have been pushing down, down, down. why after that good retail sales number did the market flatten out? stephen: the u.s. curve is a signal things are not good, looking into the future, talking about recession risk. that data last friday on its own was strong. no doubt about it. it was way above the consensus forecast. but as was said on the earlier footage here, there is a gun great to growth forecasts in the u.k.. china is slowing again, it seems. if you add togethe

that fueled all the speculation that is tom coburn, general stanley mcchrystal, which seems unlikely,of speculation. >> that would destroy donald trump if he gets in. this will be tight -- this is going to be very tight. it's a 1 or 2% win. >> ben carson was asked about that, dr. ben carson was asked about that yesterday. he was asked about the implication of that kind of candidacy. >> what bill kristol needs to recognize, america is like a cruise ship about to go off niagara falls with tremendous carnage and death. i'm hopeful that the third party candidate will think about what the implications are of allowing hillary clinton or someone like her to get in there and they get two to four supreme court picks. and completely change the nature of this country. and destroy the prospects for their children and their grand children to have the same opportunities that they had. they need to think about the big picture and stop worrying about their petty little differences. >> a good point. ross perot got in the race and that sent bill clinton to the white house. so it depends on what you wan

and, look, i mean, there's been books put out here by -- my former colleague tom coburn put out a scrap -- i mean -- a scrapbook? -- put out a wastebook documenting hundreds of billions of dollars of waste, fraud, and abuse, and he stepped dprowdown from office two years. we miss him. i'm just trying to carry on -- probably in a less effective way than i did -- but carry on, exposing what's happening in americans' tax dollars. every day people haul themselves out of bed, start the coffee, get in the car, go to work, come home, trying to save money, look at their paycheck, the amount of money that's being deducted for taxes, and say ... okay, maybe that's what we need to do to protect our country and provide for programs. and then they learn about stuff like this and say, what am i going to work for? just to thorn money over to -- just to turn this money over to washington so they can spend it in ways and make decisions like this? so this is one of 40-some presentations here on the senate floor -- and i'm going to keep doing this as long as i stay in the senate because our people need to

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and, you know, the last one i think is tom coburn, the former senator from oklahoma.een a contradict of just about everyone. he's not always super cheerful. but those are the big three that you can see if we're talking about some kind of third republican independent. >> we're waiting to see who that person s very, very interesting. all right. in the meantime though, libertarian candidate former new mexico governor gary johnson hitting trump very hard, calling him basically a racist. does this spell big trouble for trum snp. >> it's a good question. we're seeing a lot of energy on the libertarian movement this weekend. during the nominating convention. and, look, there are a lot of people who don't like trump in the gop right now. i mean, a lot of people do. it's easy to see this cycle a candidate could draw support away from trump and even the democrats. >> speaking of democrats, bernie sanders says i may be open to being vice president. could that really be a winning ticket or perhaps hillary's worst nightmare? >> i think that the idea is that for sanders, he could b

senator richard burr of north kearlg, senator manchin, senator tom coburn, my friend from oklahoma, senator alexander, senator tom carper, senator dick durbin, and senator tom harkin. we had a lot of meetings, we had a lot of discussions, we had a lot of negotiations, and ultimately worked together to determine a fair and equitable way to set the rate for student loans from the federal government based upon the federal government's own cost of borrowing money and combine the best ideas from both plans. we got the strong support of the president who encouraged the democratic members of our group to join in these negotiations and we reached a consensus. the bipartisan student loan certainty act which passed this body with something like 80 votes, and that has made a real difference for our students. here are some numbers: 50 billion, 5 billion, 277 billion. those are the answers. what are the questions? the first is $50 billion is the amount of money that students will save over the next ten years based upon the difference of what the interest rate would have been and what it's going to be. t

dennis moore of kansas, in a similar bipartisan fashion, senator tom carper from quare and senator tom coburn from oklahoma introduced companion legislation in the senate. several years ago, the office of management and budget had found 21,000 federal properties that the federal government no longer wanted or needed worth at that ime $18 billion and $9 billion were real property assets that the federal government wanted to dispose of. the then-office of management and budget director wrote a letter endorsing what these bills are attempting to do here tonight he said to reach this objective, i believe we must improve and streamline the federal process, the federal agencies face in disposing of real property assets. some extremists never want the government to sell any property and government at all levels cants to acquire more and more land every year. but we keep shrinking the tax base, mr. speaker, if the time that schools and policemen and all these other government employees want and need more funding. this legislation as we've worked on this through the transportation and infrastructure c

three years ago five members of the coburn family were killed in tragic accident on aa 18. at the recently concluded inquest, the coroner said no confidence in the work by the highway authority to remedy the situation. the council obviously wants to do all they can. if committed to carry out the work in full, however, resource are limited. serious consideration to an application from the council for additional resources to avoid a future tragedy. >> i will certainly have a look at the aa 18, the importance for his constituency and look at what the highway made available and whether there's real evidence more can be done to make it safe. >> thank you, mr. speaker. described as north korea of africa at the recent inaugural meeting. the meeting had reports of government enforced construction and advises against travel to areas within 25 kilometers of the ethiopian border. they urge guidance to transport asylum seekers back. >> we know it's a deeply undemocratic and autocratic country that's done appalling things to their people. that's one of the reason why so many people cros

i think in a tom coburn or mitt romney. >> you mentioned mitt romney, why?support donald trump. i would admire them if they stepped forward and said i'm going to run a positive campaign. i think we have two people running for president who should not be president, and a majority of americans in both cases have unfavorable views of donald trump and hillary clinton. neither should be president. let me offer an alternative. do independent candidates normally win? of course not, but this is an exceptional year. >> if a third party candidate entered, wouldn't that be turning it over to a democrat? >> absolutely, absolutely it would be turning it over to hillary clinton. and the people of our party have spoken. and they have overwhelmingly voted for mr. trump. and for people wanting to put a third party in there is just going to fracture the party again. i've been a republican, bill, all my life. and it's been a long life, a long, hard life, by the way. and you don't have to agree with a person 100 percent on everything. but you talk about donald trump's ability t

tom coburn, the former senator from oklahoma who's very well regarded among conservatives, also anti-trump. those are the names. there have been some generals in the mix, but those have been the names that have come up. the general sense is all those men havbeen saying no. the fact that kristol put this out there, it has people thinking one of them may have cracked the door open t. which would be very interesting. >> it would be. and they pick gary johnson and i can hear many saying, who? many voters are eager for another choice. might johnson spoil things for trump or hillary clinton? >> more for donald trump, because you see republicans flirting with johnson. al gore would be president in the year 2000 if it weren't for ralph nader, who was able to take away 1% or 2% of the vote. you could see a very similar situation happening here with republicans, particularly because one of the donald trump's biggest problems, apart from being the most unpopular general election nominee for a major party in the history of polling, at somewhere between of 5 and 70%, it's fundamentally a house divided.

mitt romney said no, former senator tom coburn said no.hat kind of person are they hoping to get here. >> well, i talked to bill about this yesterday. he says he's looking for somebody who is known perhaps not extremely well known but somebody who has served his country and said his country. somebody who has some political experience, sounds like he's talking about a military person, george, but, again, there are so many people that have turned down the chance to run. it's hard to see who he's going to get. >> there is another third party candidate, gary johnson who won the nomination over the weekend. thank you both. >>> now to terrifying moments during takeoff in tampa. a plane's tire catching fire while sax sitting down the runway and fires crew rush in to get passengers off the plane and put out the flames. abc's david kerley has much >> reporter: good morning, robin. you felt the thrust of that plane as you're screaming down the runway and that tire blows and then it gets even worse. for the united airlines flight leaving for tampa tr

he's been talking about trying to get mitt romney and ben sass from nebraska, maybe tom coburn.ames all that have been floated. they've all said no publicly. do you put anything into what we're hearing from bill kristol right now? >> there's always speculation about the miraculous third party candidate. the biggest story is independent voters have become a driving force. they've been driving this whole primary process. they've propelled trump and sanders. and attention that's emerged is that both parties, all parties want the votes of independents come november. there's going to be a scramble for that. but they're reluctant to give them the recognition, the respect that they're asking for. and certainly that's why changes to the system itself has become such an issue in this campaign. and independent voters have been driving this conversation. >> and ballot access is for grown-ups, not people making up renegade parties on the internet. it's tough work because of the system. >> if this kristol thing does materialize, they've already missed the deadline in texas and north carolina

. >> it includes mitt romney, ben sass, tom coburn and they have all indicated that the answer is no and the bigger problem is this. the ballot deadline has passed in texas. it's going to pass a few days after that in indiana. >> it someone gets in there, what does it do to trump's candidacy? >> if it's coming from the right and disgruntled republicans, that's why trump acted aggressively. and the libertarian party nominated their ticket. you have two former governors, gary johnson of new mexico, bill weld of massachusetts. there is a threat there to trump. >> speaking of something else trump may be worried about, a judge deciding that documents related to the document against trump university will be released. kristen reported on that tirade from trump. he's run as a businessman of great success. could this be a bad week? >> every new revelation, every knew statement, boy, never seems to stop him. however, this one, the trump university thing, i do think there's an aspect to the story that is more understandable to people. it's more relatable to people. what he's accused of here, it

tom coburn of oklahoma. nikki haley of south carolina. rand paul is mentioned in that story as well. we want to hear your thoughts of who would make a good third party standardbearer. is it time for a third-party candidate. tv is in massachusetts. he is on the line for people who think it's time. caller: good morning. a lot of people would. i am not beholden to money. money is the third that we have today. i liked ross perot. we have to admit the middle in this country has been corroded away by the money. third party factionalized is the two-party system. i also like donald trump. i like sanders. i voted for elizabeth born because i like smart people. the covert nature of the third-party is money. i think they occupy the and they occupy the republican party. i think it's an actual party at this point. there are a lot of people who could make good it candidates. who could actually break through this two-party system? who has the ability to get media attention and raise money and get the organization together? are their names that come to m

. >> well, senator coburn had a great report on this. and he was -- you know, he asked some simple questions of the homeland security, well, how much did you spend? we don't know. homeland security gave him estimates that varied 400%. this is not a difficult question. and not only that, but the feds cannot even say how many different fusion centers that there were. at one point they were saying 71, 72. well, it's 77. where are the others? they're a secret. i mean, it's amazing how much secrecy the government has gotten away with in the last 15 years when so many times the veil of secrecy simply covered official lies. we saw that with the invasion of iraq. we've seen that with the -- obama's drone program. we've seen that with some of the shifting rationales for our bombing of libya. and yet folks don't realize that if the government's allowed to keep secrets and lie to them then self-government is a charade. >> the biggest price tag you note in your piece is the war spending. $3 trillion. so of this $4 trillion that's been spent, 3 trill

some other surprising names, beenor coburn, he has having some outreach from military figures, bill kristolecially has reached out to jim mattis, and there have been some celebrities like mark cuban. mark cuban had a great e-mail exchange with the washington post. host: let me go back to what speaker ryan said. guest: after the meeting took place at the headquarters saying it was a cordial meeting but not yet ready to endorse him. unifying thef republican party, which just finished primary about a week ago, perhaps one of the most divisive primaries in memory, takes some time. there are people for donald trump, ted cruz, john kasich, marco rubio, and everybody else. it is very important that we don't fake unifying, that we truly and actually unify so that we are at full strength in the fall. i don't want a fake unification process. i want to make sure we understand each other and that we are committed to the conservative principles that make the republican party that built this country. i am very encouraged. i have heard a lot of good things from our presumptive nominee and we have exchange

. >> names include mitt romney, >> names include mitt romney, ben sasse and tom coburn, former senatorrom oklahoma. all three indicated the answer is no, consistently. it'd be a surprise if they got in. the big irproblem is this. the ballot deadline has passed in texas. it'll pass a few days from now in north carolina. a few days after that in indiana. you're getting into big states. if you're a third-party candidate, you won't be on the ballot if you got in now. >> if somebody does get in there, what does it do to trump's candidacy? >> if it's coming from the right, there is a threat to donald trump. that's why he reacted aggressively as he did yesterday. the other thing that happened over the weekend that he has to worry about, i think, is the libertarian party, which has ballot access in all 50 states. they nominated their ticket over the weekend. you have two former republican governors. gary johnson, new mexico. bill weld, massachusetts. this is the most credible this is the most credible third party libertarian ticket we've seen. there is a bit of a threat there. >> speaking of s

>> i'm optimistic that ben sass, tom coburn, even mr wimitt romn will look long and hard and say forcountry and keeping the senate -- because that conservative candidate could get out the conservatives and help save kelly ayotte and all those endangered senate races that without some conservative getting the conservatives out, donald trump doesn't save the senate. he flips it to the democrats. >> jeffrey, how does donald trump prevent not just the exodus but potentially a mass exodus from the republican party? you see so many people who are in these different stages of acceptance and some people refuse to accept. >> well, he does it the same way ronald reagan did it when -- excuse me voice here, victor -- when john anderson who was one of ronald reagan's opponents in the republican primary of 1980 abandoned the republican party, declared himself to be a third party candidate, insisted ronald reagan was too much of an extremist and so they left. that's what evan is talking about. it is the same thing. we've heard this before. you can go all the way back to the goldwater campaign when

tom coburn, recently retired senator from oklahoma.concerns that he wasn't able to do it? >> if you're just going to say it's tough to do and no one stepped forward. yes, no one stepped forward. do i think someone has stepped forward? have i been in touch with people? yes. do these people think the country deserves better? yes. if you just want to say people so far said, no, can't happen. great, you guys would love a trump/clinton race. fantastic news every day. two unattractive candidates fighting stupidly about their personal lives fighting with the "new york times." i'd like someone to run who could really do better for the country. >> my job is to be a reality check. not a cheerleader for, you know, your effort. i'm interested in your effort and certainly interested in hearing who you're talking to. >> i'm not -- >> a reality check is -- >> what is the reality, alisyn? >> in public people have said, thanks, but no thanks. we've heard john kasich, mark cuban. >> look, alisyn, donald trump clinched the nom ination one or two weeks ag