i was in the senate working for senator tom coburn.here was a bill we passed in 2000 six with barack obama. coburn and obama met in 2004. it put all federal spending online. the hope that coburn and obama had would it would create an ecosystem of organizations that would take that data and make sense of it. open the books is the organization that did that. the co-founder, good friend of the program, passed away unexpectedly. host: sorry to hear about that. guest: thank you. i recently took over just three weeks ago. i helped create the bill that opened up open the books, but transparency is a building block of a free society. if you remember from science class, carbon is the building block of life. transparency, when you connected to things like freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, it brings those things to life. we are really trying to reinvigorate what we think is a free society through transparency. host: how easy is it to get information about what the government spends, what the government does, etc.? guest: it has become a lot

now that paducah is behind bars, coburn hopes he can finally achieve justice and healing. i think that for me, the shame was more just that it had happened in general. it took me a long time to realize that i hadn't done anything wrong. several of the men who filed lawsuits told us they are still waiting for accountability from the hospitals that employ doctor paducah. for about two decades, despite complaints they received in court filings, the hospitals have denied allegations of negligence or misconduct. lester. all right, tom, thanks. we'll take a break right here when we return. over the moon, the sheer wonder of the planet's newest astronauts felt going into space, inspiring us all to see our planet with fresh eyes. finally, an astronaut before taking breztri for my copd, i had bad days. days ruined by flare ups that could permanently damage my lungs. then i talked to my doctor about breztri and i noticed things changed. breztri gave me better breathing. starting within five minutes, my lung function improved. breztri also helped improve my symptoms and was even prov

senator tom coburn was, in se fact, a doctor. but he was an obstetrician. so he was going to keep his role in senator john ensign scandal a secret, because john ensign was his patient. he was an obstetrician. nobody ever got to the bottom of whether senator john ensign f was regnant, postpartum, or actively giving birth at the time he was involved in the scandal with his obstetrician. but that was -- that was their line. doctor-patient confidentiality was our light on how and why they were going to this all a. you will be shocked to know that this line of defense did not hold. >> last year, had an affair. i violated the bows of my marriage. it is absolutely the worst thing i've ever done in my life. >> senator john ensign admitted publicly to the affair, and then went all the financial and ethical complications came to light about how he had managed and tried to cover up the affair with or without the advice of his obstetrician, senator john ensign ultimately had to resign his seat in the united states senate. he resigned from the senate he with that scanda

i was in the senate working for senator tom coburn. there was a bill we passed in 2000 six with barack obama. coburn and obama met in 2004. it put all federal spending online. the hope that coburn and obama had would it would create an ecosystem of organizations that would take that data and make sense of it. open the books is the organization that did that. the co-founder, good friend of the program, passed away unexpectedly. host: sorry to hear about that. guest: thank you. i recently took over just three weeks ago. i helped create the bill that opened up open the books, but transparency is a building block of a free society. if you remember from science class, carbon is the building block of life. transparency, when you connected to things like freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, it brings those things to life. we are really trying to reinvigorate what we think is a free society through transparency. host: how easy is it to get information about what the government spends, what the government does, etc.? guest: it has become a l

i know that we're not alone where he continued seeing patients even after coburn sent a handwritten letter to northwell health urging the hospital to investigate its recent hire. the investigation found both you and doctor paddock to be credible. the claims were not substantiated and that a male nurse practitioner would be present during sensitive physical examinations whenever possible. moving forward, is it a slap in the face to you? yeah. i mean, it's odd to say that, to say i believe you, right? but they're going to keep. yeah. yeah. it's infuriating. northwell health said in a statement that they were deeply disturbed by what was revealed during darius paddock's criminal trial. doctor paddock abused his position of trust as a medical provider, betraying his patients and their families and misleading the northwell community. while cornell says that it has made changes, including launching expanded chaperon policies in 2023 and adding prominent signage and additional documentation procedures in order to minimize the risk of such abhorrent conduct occurring in the future. i sincerely hop

. >> reporter: for years 27-year-old tucker coburn has been haunted by his experiences with his urologisth. >> did you trust him? >> i don't know. i at least felt like he was an expert in that field, and i didn't have any reason to doubt that. >> reporter: paduch was a renowned specialist at weill cornell medical center. >> there was an appointment where i had some abdominal pain, and then he came over and assaulted -- or abused me. he was trying to press himself against me and to like demonstrate sexual arousal. nothing of that is what a doctor should be doing. >> reporter: paduch was convicted for sexually abusing several patients at weill cornell and northwell health in new york. >> at real, dr. paduch is a very sick, sadistic individual who hurt a ton of people for his own gratification. >> reporter: attorney malory allen represents 140 men, including coburn, in civil cases which allege that the hospitals enabled the abuse and failed to stop it. >> did they know this abuse was happening? >> yes, unquestionably they knew this abuse was happening. >> how do you explain it? >> it feels i

the coburns know what that means because they've watched the area's creeks and the nearby russian riverlode over the banks before and i've seen where it flooded into the fields. way over these trails, way over these trails. it's almost amazing how much debris it catches. just you don't see the debris until you see the river exploding. and this afternoon, santa rosa public works crews did their part by setting up the seasonal sandbag station. it didn't take long to get their first customers. you have to be ahead of it if you live in a flood zone. and so we kind of are. so we don't want to be in the middle of a flood. emergency agencies are reminding people to keep track of those flood advisories in their local areas, because this could change very quickly with this atmospheric river that they are forecasting. in santa rosa, thom jensen nbc bay area news. okay, so you were talking about the specific areas. they're going to see more of that. and the north bay is one of those. yes. you know, we started seeing early indications of this on friday night. and the models are just consistently sh

when you mentioned coburn it's like it's hard to convey just how serious he was about this.it was like one of those right wing christian preachers, the way he talked about it with such rectitude. of course i can't possibly reveal what i know about the sex scandal in the adultery, and all this stuff, and he was deadly serious about that. he actually thought that was going to work. >> yes, exactly. to be fair, john ensign was actively giving birth at the moment that tom coburn was counseling him about how to reduce his payments to his mistress and her family. if you're an obstetrician you know that's a very sensitive time with your patients. >> i met john ensign a couple of times. i forgot about this. it didn't enter my head in this whole crazy new set of sex scandals, and it should have. my plea is that i've had so much junk forced into me that i've lost some of the old junk, that was even kind of more interesting this way. >> i'm the walking, talking and cycle. of this stuff, lawrence. anytime you need it just dial me? rachel, we're going to discuss an article i have read, e

and coburn was a happy warrior. he showed that every dollar saved in washington is a dream realized somewhere in america. so the biden policy was the opposite. you know, it showed that the best way to make something expensive is for government to make it afford being. what we are going to see with president trump and congress is a shift back to letting taxpayers decide what to do with their own money. that's going to tamp down inflation. >> laura: tell me, who likes the bureaucracy in the bureaucracy likes the bureaucracy and there is traffic that gets worse every year in washington while when people used to go work. the good thing also trump is going to require the federal workers to come back to work. >> you got it. the other group that likes the bureaucracy are businesses that want to keep out competition. elon musk is coming under fire saying there is a conflict you have interest. elon musk wants more competition. he wants to lower barriers and have more businesses come in. so this is a very pro-innovation. this

was it senator coburn who used to do the waste and abuse study?re were a lot of findings and that along similar lines as japanese quails after getting high. what is different about is that was kind of a pet project. no pun intended about the quails for the senator versus something that is being prioritized. we are going to listen in. >> elon musk talking to president trump. >> sounds great. >> i love what he's saying. >> that was indecipherable let's go back to jessica tarlov. >> just what the audience really wants. we will listen to her. the point is that looking at these kinds of things whatever they are able to cut or not remains to be seen is obviously a priority of the administration versus something that was really a side issue. once a year, he will come out and say there are chickens on the treadmills at the nih. that is ridiculous. >> what do you think it is like to explain to the president that the rocket didn't catch the chopsticks? >> i think that the president is so impressed already that he knows that this will if it does anything, it

i remember tom coburn in the senate, earn year a giant pdf all the things he wanted to get rid of. >> re- invent government 25 years ago. >> actually he did. on some of the forums literally says at the bottom, shortened by, re- inventing government. i'm not kidding. >> my question would be is this department going to come up with some cuts donald trump may not actually want? say we're going to cut $2 trillion from the federal budget, what $6. 75, that's going to involve a lot of political pain. the fact sitting around here questioning whether musk is qualified to do this, ramaswamy, same with the defense department. that's part of the point. trump came in promising disruption and change. that's what his voters wanted, and even if some of these people are qualified and it turns out to be a disaster, the sum of trump is, that's enough. government doesn't work, that's a success. >> one note of caution. some people have pointed out that donald trump really believes he has this enormous mandate. actually he only won by 250,000 votes across the three lue ball states. only margin of victory.

>> institutionalists, the fact we've been running debt and deficit, tom coburn used to publish it, andd, mccabe got fired and sued. and elon musk and vivek ramaswamy can make appropriators make the cuts, you will need 60 votes in the senate. i don't mean to sound like debby downer, shining light may be best they can do as opposed to cutting. >> brian: and identify and let american people outrage candidates that want to get re-elected, show courage in staring it down and side with institution over american people. we will watch you know sunday night, i watch the repeat in the morning to get ready for the monday show. >> trey: you are one of the 12 that watches. >> brian: show is fantastic. thank you. coming up, fbi raiding home of a betting magnet, why he thinks he's being politically targeted because who he predict the would win. i look back with great satisfaction on my 32 years in active duty. i understand the veteran mentality. these are people who have served. they've been in leadership positions. they're willing to put their life on the line if necessary. and they come to us and t

powerful days, buest i can tell you there is one example seems out as success my old boss to make toma coburn forced through air mark van and brought the real spending reduction since the ene korean war so one member can make a huge difference. ifon mus you have elon musk, vi, president trump and holdno congress, the progress can be made to periods feeling you can actually cut right now 20% o af the government i'mso not talkine the government and no oness wouliod notice. >> president reagan had the best condition in one out of every three tax dollars does not do anything production. >> laura: one in three? e stthat's right, grace. >> elon musk asper bates, that is not unrealistic you at all.n up course, you have to go too entitlement to get to that amount that congress has to start and when that credibility and the respect ofke the public and make progress and there is so much -- >> laura : most of the venting is social expending care. >> there is so much fraud and duplication that $200 billion. >> laura: we have to start somewhere. >> it could disappear tomorrow. >> laura: speaking of the re

to be fair, he was activity given birth the time tom coburn was ministering to him. >> i met john a couple of times and forget about this. it didn't enter my head in this whole crazy new set of sex scandals. and it should have. and my plea is that i've had so much junk forced into me that i've lost some of the old junk that was even kind of more interesting in its own way. >> i'm a walking, talking encyclopedia of this stuff. >> rachel, i have read exactly one, one postmortem analysis of what went wrong for the democrats in the election, and it's nathan heller's piece talking about the ambience of information and how we just bump into information and how important that is for the low information voters who are the last ones to decide and end up deciding the presidential race. and it's just absolutely fascinating. he'll join us at the end of the hour tonight. and it's not just because i'm lazy that i've only read one, it's that i've read too many in the past to actually take them seriously anymore. >> yeah, if he me, especially looking at the -- for me, especially looking at the popular vot

. >> i think that is very fair with tom coburn it and others and we are still talking about the nextteration of the data and again, make sure the information that we collect because kind of a mess before noon, some places it appears that expenditures on as revenue and we try to give them more clarity but i think your point the overarching point, is how we would push that out more. that's important in the challenge in this moment in time and a politics, is that almost anything becomes the federal government, is viewed with some suspicion though think we know that i tried tried to do this information disinformation is a elections is try to push people not to go to a federal site, but to go to local election officials pretty we folks here from burlington county numbers of supervisors pretty you know that is more trusted and fourthly, but it is the reality at this point in the source of information. an event address matter-of-fact, this is what is so bizarre about some of the folks who are running the cycle who some condemn and so many ways the federal government, but then they go in as