carla wiser the editor in chief of the cochran larry many commentators claim a recently updated cochrant work, which is an inaccurate and misleading interpretation. it would be accurate to say that the review examined whether interventions to promote mask wearing helped to slow the spread of respiratory viruses and that the results were inclusive. do you disagree with her statement? >> dr. wiser appears to be apologizing for the misconceptions and misquotes of third parties. which is extraordinary. if i had a pound or dollar for every time i been requoted, i'd be in the bahamas i'd be sunning myself in my huge villa. being misquoted and misunderstood and in a political forum like this is not my natural habitat. this is become political. the first four iterations -- first three iterations of the review went completely unremarked. apart from the 2020. 2020 update on the 2023 updates, they started getting attention simply because masks have become political. so this is a political menu. i can only tell you what the science is -- reliable science shows. what i've just told you. i can't make

here is one of our exchanges. >> brett stevens in "the times" talked about cochran.e most rigorous and comprehensive analysis of scientific studies conducted on the efficacy of mask for reducing the spread of respiratory illness, including covid-19, was publish last month. its conclusions, said the oxford epidemiologist, were unambiguous. there is just no evidence that they, masks, make any difference. >> but there are other studies, michael, that show at an individual level for individual, when you're talking about the effect on the epidemic or the pandemic as a whole, the data are less strong. but when you talk about as an individual basis of someone protecting themselves or protecting themselves from spreading it to others, there's no doubt that there are many studies that show that there is an advantage. when you look at the broad population level like the cochran study, the data are less firm with regard to the effect on the overall pandemic. but we're not talking about that. we're talking about an individual's effect on their own safety. that's a bit different

the cochrane review is clear.in a room with a high quality n-95 mask tightly fitting and for a brief interaction you can reduce transmission. on a school level when people are wearing masks on a community level there was absolutely no benefit. why are we even doing these research studies if people aren't listening to the results? >> we'll see where it goes and probably talking very soon. thank you for your time today. a good question for the debate. oh. >> dana: there you go. i think that's a good point. why are we bothering with studies if we don't pay attention to them? >> bill: do we have time for before we go? i do believe we do. utah woman was under anesthesia and had a reaction to getting her tonsils removed. when you wake up you record it. they did. >> i'm missing them. >> dana: when i had my tonsils out i thought the hospital was on fire like it was burning down. not too long ago i said remember when there was a fire at the hospital? there was no fire. anesthesia, what it does to your brain is weird. harri

as i point out the cochran study to dr. bacci.re are a lot of studies out there that you can find one with a different conclusion. don't want to be alarmist either. i think we made it clear that there is reason for concern, for the reasons i identified. no one is saying that we are on the verge of there being a mask mandates. what if it takes a turn? given the polarization the country they and the sentiments people have about the handling of the initial phase of the pandemic, would they go back and comply? i doubt that they would. social media, what we got? no? okay. guys, you are confusing me. i will read the prompter. i want to remind you. go to my website and vote on the poll question. will joe biden be the democratic nominee in 2024? stay classy. >>> up ahead, this statue of harriet tubman drew crowds when it toured across america the past few years. so much that philadelphia decided it wanted to commission the sculptor to create a permanent version work in the city. controversy ensued because the sculptor, wesley wofford, hap

brett stevens and "the times" talked about cochran.omprehensive annulus of scientific studies conducted on the efficacy of masks for reducing the spread of respiratory illness, including covid-19, was published last month. its conclusions, said tom jefferson, the oxford epidemiologist, the lead author, were unambiguous, there is just no evidence that they, masks, make any difference. he told the journalist full stop. but, wait, hold on. what about the n-95 masks as opposed to the lower quality surgical or cloth masks? makes no difference, none of it, he said. what about the studies that initially persuaded policymakers to impose mask mandates? they were convinced by non randomized studies, flawed studies. how do we get beyond that finding of that particular review? >> yeah, but there are other studies, michael, that show at an individual level for individual, when you're talking about the effect on the epidemic or the pandemic as a whole, the data are less strong. when you talk about as an individual basis of someone protecting themsel

he was confronted about the cochran review on masks.udies reviewed in a comprehensive way by the most high authority body and all of medicine. it showed there was no impact on the epidemic whatsoever. dr. fauci, writers and criticize it or try to point out a flaw in that study acknowledge it was quote unquote less strong than other data. jon: so for instance a lot of colleges are requiring covid boosters or covid shot. you are giving those essentially two teenagers you are saying they do not need that kind of protection? effect might be harmful? ask georex georgetown universits recurring masks again. one hundred colleges are requiring covid shots. we have ignored the data on the larger public health human intervention in human history and said everybody's rewriting their own story. i wish we could have seen a less blind a political allegiance to one or two public health experts and instead talk about things like obesity and the mental health crisis for there's a group of doctors that believe one 100% of what dr. fauci has said from igno

fauci about is something called the cochrane review. 150 studies on mask, found they had no impact on community transmission. it does not mean if you put two people in the room and tight fitting n95 masks for 20 minutes that you are not going to reduce the risk of transmission, it's believed it does. but on a community level, when we tell the population, tell kids in schools, including toddlers to wear masks it had absolutely no impact on transmission. so, dr. fauci did not refute the study, did not try to poke holes in it. he created this arbitrary delineation there is individual masking and community masking and individual may work and community may not, but we have spent energy and time arguing over masking. it has an intervention essentially no benefit whatsoever but we live in a blind allegiance to certain public health officials and that's the tragedy of it. >> over the course of the last few years, folks have decided they have to make their minds up for themselves. but dr. fauci did say he hopes people follow recommendations. tho

the study that has been quoted a lot and causing a lot of confusion is this cochran study which evene cochran study say that that study can be misleading because people have commented on that study saying, absolutely masks don't work which is absolutely not the case because there are a number of studies that show that masks actually do work, and there's a lot of confusion when you take a broad series of studies and you look at them in a meta analysis. only a couple of those studies have been specifically looking at covid, but you have to be careful that that study can be very, very misleading. it's a lot of data that masks work. >> jonathan: you've also said we're not going to go back to the time of the federal mask mandates. that's the thing of the past. >> i don't see that in the future at all. i can see that if we get a significant uptick in cases that you may see the recommendation that masks be used under certain circumstances and indoor, crowded settings, but i don't see them -- certainly not federal mandates. i would be surprised if i see that. there may be local organizations

average for this time of year, 70 degrees for a high in oakland was 79 in san jose. 83 in livermore and cochran. 84 degrees in santa rosa stepping outside right now. you've got cool 60's with patchy fog coast side. 67, though, nice and sunny and 66 in alameda little breezy there. still 80 degrees in fairfield, a warm 83 in saint alina. and 77 degrees right now in the bottle. but that sea breeze has been kicking in. you can see some of that patchy fog. but yeah, you see a broken. it is no real big fog bank develop along the coastline. that's pretty typical for this time of year. and it looks like ahead. we're going to see a little more cloud cover. we've got coming. unsettled pattern here. we've got this trough that's sitting along the coast. you see this little spin, very low pressure off our coastline. so things a little bit unsettled weather wise and that will can interact with that cloud deck. i think tomorrow things will stabilize little bit by tomorrow evening. we'll see more fog in the following day. but tomorrow we are going to see some patchy fog along the coastline. some of that inside

many to go on is cochran. i equal or a people indigenous to the philippines. she's working on ways to make carbon markets more equitable. many community sites struggling and they need an update at the source of income instead of paying the carbon offset to a company or government payments are made to local communities, preserving their local eco systems. so hold on. this all sounds pretty good, but there's one huge thing we haven't talked about the idea. a putting a monetary value on a tree is just weird. do you think we should put a price tag on nature? no, no, no, absolutely not. it's habitable. have to. there's an ethical dilemma for communities to say that we will get money diary benefits from funding for us. so when we have always looked at the forest at some beeping equity step, how do you put the value, for instance, on the fact that this forest are the resting ground? so if i were upset stories that definitely wouldn't make it into a price tag. in fact, most of the price tag is based on the price of carbon. so all the benefits are in valuing nature. ba

hey cochrane is saying n mccoist hey cochrane is saying we should have separate we should have a separateing god save well. we should sing god save the should actually the king. we should actually say scotland's got flower of scotland, got scotland, ireland's got ireland's call. don't know ireland's call. i don't know what but no, if we want what that is, but no, if we want to sing god the king, there is. >> there is one verse in the national which is pretty anti—scottish. >> yeah, there is. well, we have to now. to sing now. >> is the theme tune >> sing. that is the theme tune because go. we're because we have to go. we're done. carole malone, done. sam lister, carole malone, thank here's your thank you so much. here's your latest forecast. the is latest weather forecast. the is rising boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello again low pressure's bnng >> hello again low pressure's bring some blustery windy weather across northern parts whilst in the south we have some warm air across us with a bit of rain in between . that's because rain in betw

when amelia earhart is flying in and june cochran and and all of these women are in the group that will eventually called the 99 ers. and she is just really an expert on early aviation. she notices something on one of her skirt, stereoscopic views. and they're looking down like this and that's the illustration here. now is fuzzy i wish i could gotten a better copy. i couldn't. but that is the v one the buzz bomb. now, this is shown the movie 1965. george peppard and sophia loren. operation crossbow. and there's also a book by that name i mentioned, the m because the movie. sure. it now it's a british. so it's better than american movies, especially at the time. but the interesting point here on constance babington smith, they show the hardheaded wooden blockheads, she has to go up against, namely professor lindemann, who is churchill's scientific advisor. and he is adamant that she doesn't know what she's talking about, that he does. and that's a torpedo, a 30 foot long german torpedo. well, professor lindemann, i've dealt with those people for 41 years. it's not fun. they're a pain tha

then there was a study that came out by cochran library published, back in february like scientists from, wearing those for a long time, they could have chemicals in them, i will never mask again, if we as a society decide to go back to 2020, and do this experiment against weaker learned nothing, two weeks to bla flatten the curve is the biggest lie we have been told since, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, i am comply not comply hard either go just fr tries me. >> try to get a mask on my face. >> they are not getting walker with it i wish people would say are they coming back, it is not lapping. mask mandates will never come back, they were stupid on day one, they are stupid now. nobody believes fauci any more, nobody believes their doctors any more, they should, but people at cdc and scientists, they don't trust scientists any more, they should, a don't blame them. the -- you know who we were talking about elon musk. my favorite tweet of the pandemic, it was in march of 2020, elon musk tweeted out. coronavirus, panic is dumb. that was my favorite tweet, he it had early

you took broad population level like the cochran study, data are les firm on overall pandemic.dual effect on their own safety. >> all right, wow, fair to start with the doctor on this one. do you have his back on that? >> having taken care of thousands of covid patients, i don't need a study to tell me what worked. most were compliant and we were told we don't need a mask, you do need a mask, what i have seen patients said, i don't know where i got it, i was wearing my mask. it was not working. human beings can't wear a mask 24 similar 7. i did not catch covid until two years later. nothing should be mandated, if you choose to wear a mask or get vaccinated, that is your choice. we need to focus on high risk groups, senior citizens, those with underlying medical conditions, heart disease, we are in different position, we have treatment for covid. we have a small spike i'm seeing, i have not had to hospitalize anyone recently. >> tammy, bring you in on the dr. fauci comment. people said liar, fraud, your thought? >> it was word salad. it had to be constructed. why would you feel

the cochran study was not single study.ysis of all the sound scientific data surgical medical masks did not show reduction in viral infection. the second point was there was no difference between surge masks and n-95 masks. so this is complete nonsense. >> we have a crisis of not just competence. we have people who refusal to admit they were wrong look downs don't work and they will not admit they were wrong. >> laura: kids coming in as freshmen they have poor math skills. often writing and readings skills are way below par and a lot of this can be traced back to the lockdowns. so the damage that was done to young people is incalculable and no one was ever held responsible for this. but, earlier today, biden addressed the fact that he wasn't following his own cdc guidelines. watch this. >> explain to the press i have been tested again today. i'm clear across the board. but they keep telling me because this has to be 10 days or something, i have got keep wearing it, but don't tell them i didn't have it on when i walked in. >

biggest study done by the cochrane library found masks don't really have an impact whether or not youe, even though it makes sense they would, they don't. so mandating everyone has to wear them does not make sense. if you want to wear one, sure, that's fine, up to you. but getting rid of the mandates makes sense. i'm against giving health workers all the tools they need because i was concerned that my stepson had to wear a mask in school every day, chased down on the playground by teachers and impacted learning across the country, impacted access to the elderly, so more nuanced approach that takes into account health and families and churches and businesses would be much better. >> it's a lot to do, with volume. at the moment we are seeing a surge in terms of a covid spread. but it's not at the point you would say it's so widespread that there's any need for a mandate. so the white house to the cdc has not discussed using, implementing a mandate. i hear it a lot in terms of social media and people concerned, oh, they are going to do this to us again. but in fact, nobody is suggesting

. >> gio: and joining us now is channa lloyd, managing partner of the cochran firm and an abc news legalch for being here. so alex murdaugh, he has insisted all along he is innocent of the murder charges but he's attempting now to get a new trial based on allegations of jury tampering. we saw right there in jaclyn's report the prosecution delivered its response. so, how common is this move, and what are the chances a new trial could even be granted? >> well, gio, appeals are quite common, especially when talking about a sentence of this magnitude. they're very prevalent in criminal cases of this nature. now, what's unusual is that they're alleging it based on the grounds of jury tampering. that's a significant allegation because we're talking about one of the most protected and sacred parts of a trial is the jury deliberation, so anything on those grounds is definitely going to get a very close look, because they want to ensure that a fair trial was had. >> gio: so a significant allegation there, and what would a possible retrial even look like in this case? >> a retrial means they get t

liz: some interesting cochran review of the studies say the mask been conclusive that they worked congressve for covid-19 in the white house press secretary telling while indoors boat watch this. we encourage americans get the vaccines we know, that these vaccines work and president biden tested negative last night from a covid-19 and tested it negative again today and is not experiencing any symptoms and as far as the steps that he is taking, since the president was with the first lady yesterday and he will be messy while indoors and around people cdc guidance. >> he's going to the press, the been tested again today i am clear across the board that you telling me, because the sesame ten days or something, you keep wearing a mask with until the that i did not have it on my walking back. liz: east joking about it and that was from karine jean-pierre twice the vaccine working first lady was vaccinated and boosted, and she got covid-19 and dr. anthony fauci co-authored a study earlier this year we talked about it how the vaccines do not work because covid-19 arises the nasal cavity and assign

party because it is quite frankly sad to see what people like mitch mcconnell, dianne feinstein, cochrantnessed a lot of these folks over the years there something to be said for having people in congressman's additional knowledge who have learned the issues who have been there for years i know for example how to get bills passed how to work with the other side. but it is sad when you see some of these politicians who do not look like they're operating at full strength. last thing i'll say is we need more transparency. joe biden's position puts out full reports of his physicals. we need more transparency from a think mitch mcconnell's doctor and doctors who treat some of these politician provokes dianne feinstein progress absolutely put out i would agree with thas well. wall strewalter journal said the leaders are chosen by their poly guard is the best position to judge mr. mcconnell's continuing ability if they think mr. mcconnell could still be effective leader increasing fractious gop senate conference, they say should say the job progress i totally agree the reality is that there sen

so cochran for hearing back from bart police this morning and police say they believe the attack appears to be unprovoked. we have confirmed it was a stabbing. an arrest has been made. but this does remain an ongoing investigation. police were called around 12, 18 in the morning. and here's what we've learned this morning. 44 year-old tamir edwards has been arrested and booked into the alameda county jail. police say as words was allegedly stabbed or stabbing another person on board a bart train as it was arriving to the station. and this is video of the scene overnight see officers working the scene gathering any information they can get from any sort of witnesses there. this all happened at the 19th street bart station overnight and police say on the bottom platform, witnesses telling our photographer at the scene that one person was taken to the hospital and we've learned the victim was injured, but is expected to be okay. police say the motive remains under investigation. but as we have mentioned, police say the attack does appear to be unprovoked. police were able to moving quickly,

that was cochran from stanton. the chief was 68 years old. all of these other justices are from a different everybody is old enough to be my daddy and they are all from a fully segregated virginia. not one of them has been to school with a black person in their lives, and most of them had not even been in school with women other than in elementary school because they went to all male colleges. and so forth. and most of them didn't have women. you know, i had one woman in my life. i didn't have any women in my life, that kind of thing. and so they had they were from another world and i can remember particularly maybe the dean is thinking about i've talked about this. i come, as you'll see in the book from violence and all that in my home. and i know what it's like for your mother to get a restraining order against your father. and i know what it's like to fear that somebody is going to come and kill you and, you know, blow up the house. you live in a punch you and hurt you or something. and i can remember us discussing one day some case about

let's go ahead and bring in abc news live contributor channa lloyd, managing partner at the cochran firm so good to see you. thank you for being here. how strong do you think murdaugh's chance of appeal actually is? >> the legal standard to mount an appeal and to be successful is really high, and what he's basing it on is either jury misconduct potentially or improper evidence that was admitted about his financial crimes. both of which are things that the higher court will take seriously, but it is a very high burden to meet. >> gio: and channa, what avenues would the defense team look for when filing an appeal here? >> the avenues that they're going to look for is they're either going to want to show something that would have altered the outcome of the trial. essentially what you have to show is that either jury misconduct, admittance of improper evidence, abuse of discretion on behalf of the judge, would have changed the outcome of the trial and produced a different verdict. >> gio: and what about buster murdaugh's comments that his dad has characteristics of a psychopath? could that f

the longer term and the longer term studies and these include something called review , called the cochranehich is review of reviews . which is a review of reviews. and it's unbiased, it's independent, and there's another three year follow up study on children. and they show that there's no better outcomes for these children that are on these drugs. there's they're either worse or or or the same . and worse or or or the same. and they've looked at a range of mental health kind of criteria. and also quality of life. and also looking at their life chances and their chance of getting a job. so those studies show that they're they aren't improvements and symptomatic relief is what symptomatic relief is what symptomatic relief is what we're doing. but the issue is we're giving drugs to children that do have side effects. so there are short term side effects like headaches and insomnia , nia, and weight loss. insomnia, nia, and weight loss. they increase the sort of blood pressure and the heart rate and the long term studies show that the long term studies show that the children on these drugs ca

francis cochran of baltimore both referred to jeannie as an uncompromising union man. apparently traveled by horse and made his way across to sandy hook, maryland. >> where we just were not too long ago. >> we did the safest thing at sandy hook. we got a pass from the provost marshal at sandy hook that allowed jeannie to go to harpers ferry where they then took a train to baltimore. the last large document is a letter of introduction dated february 7th, 1863 to introduce janie and his daughter to robert shank commander of the middle department headquartered in baltimore. it's like a big administrative department for baltimore in the p.a. shank was a pencil pushing administrative general. the letter was signed by two baltimore businessmen. reese married a janie. they probably went to his house and got these letters of introduction. we don't know the nature of the visit and probably they were having issues with confederates tried to get help out of baltimore. we were talking beforehand. the border is abstract. how many guys from loudoun county go over and fight with the

cochran. malcolm ms. salinas, five minutes of questioning. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to welcome back terrell lucas. i have really appreciated leadership on this committee and the ranking member for holding this important meeting, i thank you. administrator reagan, i want to thank you for being here today. from clean water and air to ensuring a smooth energy transition, the epa's work is truly essential to oregon's health and prosperity. i am really grateful for your work to implement the bipartisan infrastructure law. that is already making an impact for my constituents. in february, epa awarded oregon $18.9 million to address pfas and other emerging determine its intricate water. investments really do target are smaller, rural communities and are disadvantaged areas. in april, you testified and we discussed the closing america's wastewater skeptical assistance program. you assured us, then, that you were working closely with usda on 11 pilot projects for the committees to scale up testified assistance and a supporting model across the city. for my immunity, th

his letters are written to the custom officer in berlin, maryland, which is today brunswick.francis cochran of baltimore, both referring to jenny as an uncompromising union man, and asa, apparently, traveled by horse and carriage to the potomac river, somehow made his way across to sandy hook, maryland. which -- >> where we were not too long ago. >> travis and i did a similar thing thanks to sandy hook -- and got a pass on the provost marshal at sandy hook that allowed jenny to go to harpers ferry, allowed them both to go to harpers ferry, where they then took a train to baltimore. the last document is a letter of introduction dated february 7th, 1863, to introduce jenny and his honor to major general robert frank, commander of the middle-department, which was headquartered in baltimore. the middle-department is like a big administrative department for baltimore in the p.a. area. so, shank was sort of a -- not going to some great for shank -- sort of a pencil-pushing administrative general, but the letter was signed by two baltimore businessmen, john pumpkin and gh reese, and hopkins -- or

paul: the flat earth society is chomping at the bit to bring back masks, even though the cochran analysis has looked at 78 randomized controlled studies and shown that masks didn't stop transmission, didn't stop hospitalization, and didn't lessen deaths. in other words, the masks on a population level had no influence over the spread of covid. and yet the flat earth society cannot listen and absorb these facts. they want the masks to come back. in addition, the flat earth society also wants to mandate three covid vaccines for kids despite no evidence that covid vaccines reduce transmission, hospitalization, or death for adolescents. and yet to this very day senate pages are required to get three vaccines in order to participate in the program. i rise today out of a desire to protect the health of the young men and women who serve as senate pages. i think we can all agree the senate wouldn't function very well without the pages. the very first page was a 9-year-old boy named grafton hansen. he was appointed by daniel webster back in 1829. in those days, the pages will to refill the ink wel

um we can look at uh cochrane collaboration, for example. um there are 245 meta ay reviews of varied treatment options for depression. yet when it comes to gender dysphoria, there's only one path currently prescribed to help someone and that's to become someone else. researchers and clinicians should be innovating solutions to heal distress, not coercing kids onto a path that tells them that they need to remove or change physical parts of who they are in order to be whole. this is why i'm calling on you to act on behalf of children. thank you. >> thank you. sorry for that buzzer background noise. uh didn't rattle you at all. we will now proceed onto the five minute rule with questions and the chair recognizes first the gentle woman from wyoming for five minutes. >> first of all, i want to say thank you for being here. you are four incredibly brave women and you are my heroes. you have been willing to put yourselves out there to address something that many people want you to stop talking. they want to prevent you from talking. don't listen to

a man by the name of charles cochran and robert posey was appointed by george bush after doug jones would listen to myself and abraham woods, a lieutenant of dr. king. the f.b.i. agent by the name of mr. lankford. director of the northern district. he met with us to see what he could do to try to get black people in birmingham to be more accepting of the f.b.i. reverend abraham woods and others put it on the agenda that new evidence and they need to bring forth the case. host: aim running short on time. wrap it up. caller: you need -- you all need to tie in what's going on in birmingham, sir. i promise you. this is a great time to do it. while ms. harris -- excuse me, ms. brown is here. she's not for reparation, neither is kamala harris. shows black women -- thank you for taking my call. host: frank in birmingham, alabama. in about 40 minutes this morning on c-span you can watch that commemoration of the 60th anniversary of the church bombing at the 16th street baptist church in birmingham. justice jackson will be there as part of that commemoration here on c-span, c-span.org and the free