lina and marion cockrell. >> todd had one airplane in the hangar and one in the driveway. they loved having an ex-fighter pilot for a neighbor. >> todd was always -- i mean, he was just a genuinely interesting guy. he would make eye contact with you. he always wanted to know about my job. "what sorta cases are you working on? what kind of law do you practice? " >> i had actually kind of looked at todd as kind of a "guy's guy". >> you enjoyed their company? >> we did. >> enjoyed todd a little more than rachel, maybe. >> i knew her less well than i knew todd, i feel. i feel like we were both in the same place in our lives, but sort of moving in different circles and -- >> she wasn't one of those people kind of that you immediately were attracted to or what? >> no. i don't -- i really liked her but she always seemed a little bit distant. very polite, very friendly but a little bit distant. >> you want to go over there? >> yeah. >> let's go over there. >> by 2009, rachel and todd had two little daughters eva and ariel. >> he always seemed very involved and very engaged with th

and after that manager cockrell outbreak on campus that theth health authorities are eternally gratefulhat she did that all on her own. and then to ask the oregon people and from the investigation to just interfere. and that those and then depending on how they do their job to have different relations with the cdc but they are supposed to be following those cdc orders. even though it has no official power you are not supposed to anger the cdc. but those for just this reason and the one that she thought was brave was usually women but not always as opposed to the rich and retire doctors who doesn't want any trouble. that the cdc would get in the way. nobody will save you and those who got their heads chopped off in the last year. all those except a couple of exceptions are you in santa clara? >>he yes. sarah should get a presidential medal. she saw she needed to shut down the county without backup from governor newsom or donald trump and probably saved a gazillion lives with that early disease transmission and what does she get as thanks? every wednesday at heron house a mob gathers stil