was director of the office of international visitors for the united states information agency, bill codus. jack brennan was the marine aide to president nixon from 1969 through '74. later when the president went to san clementi after the presidency, he was his chief of is it a fact. he accompanied the president and mrs. nixon twice, including the original trip. hughes was the military assistant to president nixon. he was also his military assistant as vice president. he was commander in chief of the pacific fleet, knew the nixons very, very well, and we're proud and delighted to have him here. and of course -- and of course julie, who's author of the biography of her mother, entitled "pat nixon: the untold story", and also worked with her husband david eisenhower in writing "going home to glory: a memoir of dwight d. eisenhower 1961 to 1969." ladies and gentlemen, your panel. [ applause ] >> well, i hope we can get that video working before we're done because it's really good. we take it for granted these days that senior government officials travel all around the world, but that hasn't a

bill codus, who did so much planning for those trips, julie writes in her book, my mother thoroughly enjoyed bill and always felt at ease when he was involved in planning a trip. apparently he also planned to make sure she had a birthday cake when it was her birthday on one of those trips. but you were at the state department as assistant chief of protocol for visits. how did you get involved in starting to plan visits for mrs. nixon overseas? >> well, the visit section that we were in charge of, when president nixon invited these dignitaries, the chiefs of state, heads of government, protocol got involved in planning the trips here in the united states. in those days, a visit from liberia or saudi arabia was a seven-day visit, for a state visit, and an official visit was four days. but then eventually i was involved in that and traveling with these chiefs of state, heads of government, around the united states and got involved with some people who -- i should say chiefs of state who brought their wives. there was friction every once in a while because they were rather demanding. but