julia: one of the best things we did was find renaud, our cofounding cto, and i like to say the bravesterson on the planet. as we started to work together, we had this agreement that we would, first of all, divide and conquer, and that we would also always check in. i was the customer support, marketing, and finance department. kevin was the product department. and renaud was the engineering department. we were just three founders for two years. emily: why events and ticketing? why did you think that the problem that had to be solved or had so much potential? kevin: it was addressing this market that had been unaddressed and kind of left to itself. and what is exciting about eventbrite is we were meeting these people and creators who would come together and hosting these events they could not do before. so enabling this broad, many different categories of events, many different geographies, it was really a greenfield opportunity for us. emily: when you disagreed when kevin was ceo, how did that get resolved? julia: we always have the pact that the ceo is the final say. i could provided