during cointelpro for example where they specifically tried to assert through their authority their authority to change political realities in my own life and to and to try to pressure me not only to change them but to give them some special access to what's going on in my head and they've seized my property i'm not even i mean i'm not even really a liberty to discuss all of the things that have occurred to me so this is this is a this is happen to you the chinese people i speak to when they speak about the great wall of china in the west we talk about this in terms of censorship and that it's blocking chinese citizens from coming out and reading what is said about the chinese government in the west and by trying to use this in some other whom and so on but their concern is actually not about censorship they can say that in order to have internet censorship there must also be that surveillance you know what to check what someone is looking at. to see whether it is permitted or denied you must be seeing it in the see if you can record a goal and so this is had a tremendous chilling effect on c