do they feel the same amount as cokie roberts and salmonella people? >> that's a great question to end on. that's as important as anything i will say. abc news is the one i know, there are literally hundreds of men and women whose names you will never know who will never make that much money, who come in every single day and give everything they have just because they believe in what they are doing. it's not because of the core. it's not because of the thing at all. it deeply dedicated men and women. listen, sometimes we got a raw, sometimes without right. it can be subject to criticism by want people who have not had the opportunity to understand that these people are there working on their behalf and they should be honored for that and respected for that. >> thank you all. by and read david westin's "exit interview," and thank you so much. he's a great

start with somebody i grew up knowing about, he is the brother of a friend of mine from abc news, cokie roberts, a son of the former eaker of t the house halele boggsgs and son of congressman bob -- thomas boggs, jr., wewell-kwn in washgton. here a are a few facts. he has been on national law journal list of top p 10 lawyers nationwi every year since the listst began. he joined the firm of patton boggs llp in 1966 and he designed and secure the chrysler bailout in 19. an institutition in washiningtonnd capitol hill. what are some of the things about himm that are notable? >> one thing we found out about these leaders who have done incredible things, once the received the award will learn intereresting facts. when thomas boggs, jr. spoke ththat night and reference but that they do the most pro bono work of any fm in washington because law firms are nototed for their pro bono work but i think boogs stands out. giuseppe ceci, president of idi group companies. he developedhe watergate properties including the infamous watergate hotel the watergate condominiums. of the first mixed-use develoent in w

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glad to have cokie roberts here. also dan senor. congressmen, congressman tom cole of oklahoma, also a member of the republican leadership, and keith ellison, chair of the progressive caucus. cokie, tim geithner said they're making progress. >> congressman cole does, too. >> i want to hear that. >> but it hasn't been a very encouraging week for people who think that the fiscal cliff is not something that we want to go over and i think that the president's proposal that was put on the table was something that republicans were not going to accept, even close to accept, so it had the air of bizarre. you know, bargaining. but put a really high price out there so that when you start the negotiating -- >> when will the real negotiating begin? congressman cole? >> i want to thank the president and secretary geithner for reuniting and re-energizing the republican caucus. because that offer -- they must think that john boehner is santa claus, because it was a christmas wish list, it wasn't a real proposal. at the end of the day, do i think we

mika, thank you for protecting me when cokie roberts and -- >> i have never seen joe interrupted more. >> it was great. >> it was wonderful. >> now stick around. new york chuck comes up. new york chuck. take it away. >> thank you, d.c. joe. you'd better watch out. the fiscal clause are coming to town. there may be pouting. three major issues on tuesday alone showed why republicans are facing a fierce fight amongst themselves for their open future. what sequestration would really mean for our military and our national security. you hear the word a lot. you don't get the details. it could mean losing millions of jobs. digging into the legality of recess appointments. it all revolves around whether the senate is working when an empty chamber gavels in for a few minutes. it's wednesday, december 5, 2012. will republicans cry uncle on taxes? with the holidays approaching, last night house spaeker john boehner took a break from the fight. . >> god bless us, everyone. and from my family to yours merry christmas. >> five, four, three, two, one. good job. >> well, that was one countdown clock.

number two, i love cokie roberts saying he's an unelected lobbyist. what is she?t same thing he is doing but she's doing from her perch at abc news. how dare she's pom puts, arrogant couragists say these people are unelected people. folks, so are you. >> good point. all right. let's go to pbs, paul crugman. he has the power grab to take away the constitutional authority from congress. they have the the ability to spend money. he wants to give the president a blank check. watch this. >> the president has also proposed something that john boehner calls silliness, or geithner did, which is taking the idea of debt ceiling off of congress's plate, something that members of congress think is another story. what is the value of putting that out there? >> well, again, it needs to be said. this is crazy. we we are heading to republicans doing it by blackmail. we want run on that system. we have to -- this needs to be taken offer the table. >> you know what's amazing, do these people even read the constitution? do they even know what congress's role here is? do they underst